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Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 05:19:38 AM
well only got the wings so far no weathering yet.
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora1.jpg)
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora2.jpg)
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora3.jpg)
Still much to do on wings lol.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 08:35:38 AM
:( guess it sux
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 09:20:33 AM
Update little weathering done.
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora4.jpg)
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora5.jpg)
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora6.jpg)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 11:43:17 AM
k it sux i can take a hint.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: JB73 on May 05, 2005, 11:55:56 AM
Quote
Originally posted by SkyChimp
k it sux i can take a hint.
no it doesn't suck


if i may say, the rivets seem a bit "much"

in the 190 pictures i have seen they are not that visible, and they get a bit distracting while flying when they are that pronounced



there is an interesting side effect to them though. in the first pic the left wing white insignia looks better with the rivet lines in it, makes it not as "smooth" like a now-adays sticker all perfect and stuff

you dont have a shot of the side fuselage. what is the camo pattern?

sir, keep up the good work

what real life plane is that based on?
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 12:06:17 PM
Thx Jb i dident make the template work of our own truekill :)
havent made a template yet. This all the info i have so far ;)

Flown by Oberfeldwebel Heinz Marquardt, 13./JG 51, Schmoldow/Germany, April 1945
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 12:10:57 PM
Err btw not done at all ;) cammo not 25% done
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:09:18 PM
Update gret/blue darker tan darker cammo on tail

(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora7.jpg)
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora8.jpg)
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora9.jpg)

Err to of same pic
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:14:15 PM
Rivets and panel too noticable. Lower the opacity a bit.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:16:19 PM
Err dident make template but ill try :)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:16:56 PM
If its a template its even easier...
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:17:57 PM
heh...
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:19:17 PM
Tip. work off of the template. save one as template paint shop file and save a bmp for testing intill you have it just right.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:19:29 PM
Btw what skins have u done? i know u did a 17 just never seen them :( did u post pic on bb? Spade i do work like that.:) i have bout 50layers ;)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:21:32 PM
i stoped working on the b17's for a while. working on movie. i remade the cockpit and fuselage i did not work on wings

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/605_1114049209_b17.jpg)

pre weathered
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:27:47 PM
can i see a pic from the top?
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:32:36 PM
If you want to see the rivits on the wings i already told you if you read above. i did not work on them so its the default b17 with olive drab color.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:47:25 PM
im sry thought u used a diff temp ;)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:49:14 PM
i dont like to use templates because its not my work. I get ideas from other guys though.

I like skinning planes that dont have many skins.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:52:40 PM
190d has 2 skins so far 3rd if they take it this would be my 1st skin. I'll start making templates soon.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 05, 2005, 04:56:50 PM
Lol, completed maybe there's a max of 15 skins for plane. As soon as a plane comes out evereyone over stocks it with all these skins.  No offence to alot of you but alot of them look the same.  I like seeing unique ideas not a hundred green mustangs or planes from same squadron, if they allowed more then 15 skins id love that. I make movies i need stuff like that. But when theres a limit of skins and half of them are the same.  There is no point.  I love when guys do special stuff like cockpits and really good shading and details and pilots, it really adds to the game.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 04:59:57 PM
we can do cockpits? lol well has to b historic ;)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 05:02:10 PM
Heh u will like my next one raf 51b well nvm mod :(
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 06:35:29 PM
Update :)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 05, 2005, 07:16:19 PM
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/dora10.jpg )
Update
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Krusty on May 05, 2005, 11:45:23 PM
Find the layer named "panel lines"... It is probably near the top. Set it to lower than you think you need. Set it to 30% opacity.  Or lower. That is what everybody is suggesting.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 12:00:36 AM
this better?
(http://www.357th.netprism.net/ahss154.jpg)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 12:02:20 AM
I think it should b bout 50 because of the tail
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: straffo on May 06, 2005, 02:10:38 AM
Clearly  better , Haken cross is perhaps a bit low on the fuselage and number "11" a bit small.

Also You can try to put a little gaussian blur on the rivet layer.
(backup you work 1st ;))

Can you post the profile you are using ?
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 02:14:26 AM
how much more info u want:)

Flown by Oberleutnant Hans Dortenmann, 3./JG 26, Klein-Kummerfeld/Germany, April 1945
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 02:22:07 AM
"11" as big as i can get it :( 2200 or somthing like that
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 02:22:46 AM
:o  Sry Sir Flown by Oberfeldwebel Heinz Marquardt, 13./JG 51, Schmoldow/Germany, April 1945
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Edbert1 on May 06, 2005, 06:04:55 AM
It looks better in every one you post. Can you provide a link to the actual AC youare modeling?
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 06:36:13 AM
Sir there kinda diff in each pic i find lol :(
(http://decals.kitreview.com/decals/images/ced48221decalreviewrk_cover.jpg)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 06:41:03 AM
(http://www.canons-skins.com/marquadt.jpg)
as u can see mine almost the same lol

Should i keep the dark panel lines? or make them a lil lighter?
Like this or make them darker?
(http://www.ah-skins.com/skins/screenshot309.jpg)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Edbert1 on May 06, 2005, 07:10:09 AM
I like the panel lines you have in the latest ones.

I do not trust many of the IL2 skins I've seen, but the decal sheets are usually VERY good. I cannot see a lot of detail from that one small picture of white 11 but here's things I can see that are not correct...

The mottleing on the sides should be less "dotty" and more of a wash.

Mottling on the vert stab should be less altogether and more "blurry".

The MG access panel apprears to be aluminum.

it is very hard to tell with the variances in screenshots and lighting but it appears that your colors are a little too brown, DunkelGrun and GrauGrun are not quite so "olive". In my opinion the shades of green used on that decal sheet are very close to correct. Try taking a sample of those and put them next to the ones you are using.

The "squiggle" (what is the correct term for that?) is a little rough, and too far back too.

The chipped paint is a nice effect but too uniform in my opinion.

Wrong font on the werk nummer.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 07:50:16 AM
can u help me out a little :)?
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Krusty on May 06, 2005, 12:09:43 PM
also, 2 related thoughts:

Your entire fuselage side is nearly black. I take it this is the exhaust stains? They seem a bit excessive. Lighten them up (and shorten them so they don't extend to the tail fins).

Also don't forget to put the text and gruppe layers UNDER the weathering! They're bright and clean and stand out too much from the area right around them. Same deal for the white crosses on the wings.


I like this skin, Chimp. Good camo scheme. I agree that it may be too dark, but that's easy enough to fix with filters or individual layers.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Edbert1 on May 06, 2005, 03:20:14 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SkyChimp
can u help me out a little :)?

What did you have in mind?
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Stang on May 06, 2005, 03:24:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SkyChimp

(http://decals.kitreview.com/decals/images/ced48221decalreviewrk_cover.jpg)


Bwahahha

:rofl


Dashing Doras, how true!

:lol
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 06, 2005, 10:40:16 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Edbert
What did you have in mind?


As u can see im not that good can u help me a little with some tweaks to the skins like the mg thing :)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: TAK@JG1 on May 06, 2005, 11:17:40 PM
This skin became good.
but, isn't there mistake in the aileron?


(http://www2.cc22.ne.jp/~harada/fw_190/fw_190_6.jpg)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 06, 2005, 11:35:19 PM
looks good chimpy you should do the engine shading on cowl flaps would be sick.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 07, 2005, 01:18:30 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Sp4de
looks good chimpy you should do the engine shading on cowl flaps would be sick.


Thx spade now what do u mean :o
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Sp4de on May 07, 2005, 01:55:15 AM
Took this picture real quick and did it. note it should look better then this this was a 30 second thing lol.

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/605_1115448871_untitled.jpg)

Look at Greebo's or best's
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 07, 2005, 01:57:34 AM
Ahh will do Sir
Title: Problem!
Post by: SkyChimp on May 07, 2005, 05:19:59 AM
Well pics speak for their self.
(http://www.thehabboway.com/ahss161 copy.jpg)
(http://www.thehabboway.com/ahss162 copy.jpg)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: Kweassa on May 07, 2005, 09:52:35 AM
Copy and paste one of the parts which is 'adjacent' to the other side, so there is a 'continiuty' when two texture parts meet.
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 07, 2005, 09:53:45 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Kweassa
Copy and paste one of the parts which is 'adjacent' to the other side, so there is a 'continiuty' when two texture parts meet.


Will do im so dumb ;)
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 09, 2005, 10:36:24 PM
last update its almost rdy i guess :p need to make mg thing look metal and the red bar on left ail  1st skin
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 09, 2005, 11:11:13 PM
(http://www.thehabboway.com/ahss190.jpg) tryed to get metal effect
Title: aluminum color
Post by: TAK@JG1 on May 10, 2005, 12:53:00 AM
I think aluminum color is this color.:)

(http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~kamekubo/Metal.JPG)

http://www.eonet.ne.jp/~kamekubo/190D91.bmp
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 10, 2005, 10:39:56 AM
help me plz sir
Title: Dora Skin
Post by: SkyChimp on May 10, 2005, 10:41:07 AM
SOB ;) lol wtg shh!