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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: jetb123 on May 05, 2005, 10:51:13 AM
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Can somebody that has this stick tell me. It says it has twisty stick. I dont like that, I rather do my keyboard. Could I still do my keyboard rudder?
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Why would you want to use the keys to move your rudder rather than something 100x quicker like a twisty stick?
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Jetb,
I have that stick. While its not an "uber" CH stick it is a good stick for the money. It is the first twisty stick I have ever owned. It takes abuse well. I know first hand. I slammed mine on my desk so many times the tabs on the side of the stick popped off. The function tabs is what I'm referring to.
All it takes is Pacerr or Jish whooping my *** and it gets slammed. Pretty immature but I get so mad that I can't beat those guys that I have to take my frustartion out somewhere.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Why would you want to use the keys to move your rudder rather than something 100x quicker like a twisty stick?
Um I heard its akward to twist it, and your flying messes up. I dont know ill try
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Anything is better than my Piece of crap saitek st90 lol it has 3 buttons on it. One for mg, one for cannon, and one for both. And 4 throttle positions.:lol
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Well its all in how you adjust to it I guess.
I know for a fact that you will fly better with a twist stick than you will by using the keyboard keys to control your rudder.
I use an old MS Precision pro 2 twisty stick. And I love it. Its going to suck when it totaly dies. As they no longer make them. Already my hat switch wont work unless I press it so hard that I my thumb goes numb.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Well its all in how you adjust to it I guess.
I know for a fact that you will fly better with a twist stick than you will by using the keyboard keys to control your rudder.
I use an old MS Precision pro 2 twisty stick. And I love it. Its going to suck when it totaly dies. As they no longer make them. Already my hat switch wont work unless I press it so hard that I my thumb goes numb.
Rofl and you still can fly good. Lol.
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I use them same stick and love it morph, think there are some used ones on e-bay when it finaly gives up but quality is obviously not assured.
As for using rudder on keyboard thats a big no-no imho as is the cyborg evo stick, I find it to bulky and combersome if that makes any sence.
On a totally seperate note that film is ready for you morph if you still wanna host it. How can i send it to you(quite big bout 50m)
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Shoot me an email any time today and I will tell you how to load it on to my server.
My email (morpheus@furballunderground.com)
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go to stick setup, then select stick, then click on rudder and select input to none. :)
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jet u are crazy...i use a twisty stik-evo-..and kik all theses guiys azzes on thsi board ; )
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Morpheus said:
I use an old MS Precision pro 2 twisty stick. And I love it. Its going to suck when it totaly dies. As they no longer make them. Already my hat switch wont work unless I press it so hard that I my thumb goes numb.
Same here!
Couple of weks ago I found a new MS Precision Pro at WalMart on the back of a shelf covered with dust.
I have a spare now!
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I have a MS Precision Pro and a Cyborg Evo.... I love the twisty-stick! I actually like the Saitek better because it has a few more buttons.
Morph! There are quite a few MS sticks on ebay right now if you are lookin for one! Some are overpriced because MS doesn't make em anymore but there are quite a few at reasonable prices.
Clip
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Can the Precision Pro be better than the new Logitech? If I didn't have an X45, I would get the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, it feels great, and lots of buttons. Probably the best stick for the money, but if I had money to burn, I would look at the new X52 by Saitek, a stick with more options than a loaded Caddy.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Well its all in how you adjust to it I guess.
I know for a fact that you will fly better with a twist stick than you will by using the keyboard keys to control your rudder.
I use an old MS Precision pro 2 twisty stick. And I love it. Its going to suck when it totaly dies. As they no longer make them. Already my hat switch wont work unless I press it so hard that I my thumb goes numb.
Boo, my PP2 has just developed a deadspot turning right, shame on MS for not making them anymore.
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Originally posted by TracerX
Can the Precision Pro be better than the new Logitech? If I didn't have an X45, I would get the Logitech Extreme 3D Pro, it feels great, and lots of buttons. Probably the best stick for the money, but if I had money to burn, I would look at the new X52 by Saitek, a stick with more options than a loaded Caddy.
Tracer, I bought a Logitech not long ago and it lasted about 3 weeks before it tore up on me. Deadspots all over, it'd get stuck, etc.... I'd look at something else if I were you!
Clip
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Excpected lifespan of a Junkitech is 3 weeks if you baby it.
Thats if you fly bombers, hit Alt X and stay in auto pilot.
The second you start to actualy turn with it, it explodes.
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ive had my logitech for 4 months and nothing has gone wrong.
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Logitech makes a really great stick as far as paper weights go.
I would never, ever, and i mean evvvver own another one.
Using a saitek evo at the moment, and have no complaints.
Jetb, the twisty is 100% better than using the keyboard, give it a try. For those who do not have rudder pedals, it's the next best thing.
RTR
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Jet, do yourself a favor and bite the bullet early and get use to
the twist stick. Takes a little getting use to, but won't take long.
You'll need that left hand doing other things besides adjusting rudder.
Also play with the rudder adjustment slides in setup to get some of the gyrations out of it...
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I have had 3 Ligitek sticks & all 3 lasted about 3 weeks & then started spiking like mad. Also the hat started crapping out about the same time.
DON'T waste your money on that p o s stick
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Twisty stack has a vast advantage over using the keyboard. It's alot quicker, and more precise.
The same way rudder pedals blow twisty sticks out of water. BTW, I'll be selling my Thrustmaster Afterburner II as soon as my CH stuff arrives. :p
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how the heck are you nerds affording that CH stuff? a full setup is over 400 bucks! unless you know anyplace cheaper than thier website to get it, your all freakin insane!
yes the cyborg evo is a great stick. been using mine now over a year and the only problem it has is the blue deal on the top where it says evo only lights up if i move the hat a certiant way. hardly an issue against playing, just a pretty issue.
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Jet
I've been using a twisty stick since the first Sidewinder came out (I dunno how many years that is). I'm about to switch over to pedals, but just so you know... twisty is fine, you just have to get used to it.
You might want to go into setup and dampen the rudder.. it depends on your style but I found the default is too sensitive. I think this is where the myth that a twisty will mess up your flying gets it's foundation. Just dampen it and maybe set a bigger dead-zone than you "think" you'll need and it will be fine.
Tumor
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Originally posted by SkyTex
how the heck are you nerds affording that CH stuff? a full setup is over 400 bucks! unless you know anyplace cheaper than thier website to get it, your all freakin insane!
Shop around... I think I used Froogle (among other things) and found stuff much cheaper than the CH website. I saved about $80, maybe more on throt/pedals combined that way.
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Best deal I found was the Saitek X45. You can try the X45 if you get it at Best buy (http://www.bestbuy.com) and try it for 30 days or return it. I got the 2 yr. replacement warranty for 10.00 and can get a new stick as many times and at anytime with in 2 yrs over and over again for only 10 bucks. Or after 1yr you get your 79.95+ Tax back and buy what ever you want. What a deal. I have already on my 3rd one just cuz I didn’t like the way it was feeling. (BTW when I took it back the 1st time they also gave me a 20$ rebate that saitek was having 6 months later so I made 20 bucks) Best 10 buck I ever spent. I Didn’t like the X45 rudder so I got the CH pedals for 100 bucks works great
Here is the set up on the X45 I have (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/udlike2no2/files)
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Kk im going with the evo. I hope it wont let me down lol its going to take me awhile to get use to.
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Why would you want to use the keys to move your rudder rather than something 100x quicker like a twisty stick?
stability, keyboard settings dont get messed with during a manouver.
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Originally posted by Clip121
Tracer, I bought a Logitech not long ago and it lasted about 3 weeks before it tore up on me. Deadspots all over, it'd get stuck, etc.... I'd look at something else if I were you!
Clip
My brother has owned the Logitech, but he got the insurance so he could replace it when it went bad. Seems like he was always replacing it. I thought he was just being hard on the stick, guess it is really not that beefy afterall. I still might get one for my son to use, or as a backup.
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Okay im buying it midnight tonight. Hopefully I will have by monday or tues somthing.
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Sucks=Logitech....... But, Sounds like some of these guys got a good 1, it lasting 3 weeks and all. The few i tried lasted 2 weeks or sucked right outa the box. Gas ,drive time, time lost flying etc.. returning pos sticks , exchange or not. cost more then a ch setup. :confused: Im not doing it no more here soon, its worth the300.00- 400.00 dollars for a good stick setup. Heck it comes to your door no going no place lmao! Little money really, considering its a Long term investment for a hobby, not to bad.
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Originally posted by tactic
Sucks=Logitech....... But, Sounds like some of these guys got a good 1, it lasting 3 weeks and all. The few i tried lasted 2 weeks or sucked right outa the box. Gas ,drive time, time lost flying etc.. returning pos sticks , exchange or not. cost more then a ch setup. :confused: Im not doing it no more here soon, its worth the300.00- 400.00 dollars for a good stick setup. Heck it comes to your door no going no place lmao! Little money really, considering its a Long term investment for a hobby, not to bad.
At my age $300-$400 is alot of money.
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jetb, you can always disable the twisty function if you cannot adjust
Edit: I have an evo
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Originally posted by Steve
jetb, you can always disable the twisty function if you cannot adjust
Edit: I have an evo
Yeah that was my main question, and you answered it. Thanks!
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Originally posted by vorticon
stability, keyboard settings dont get messed with during a manouver.
I use a twisty and don't have any stability problems at all.... I can't imagine using pedals! Been using the twisty since MS made the the first Sidewinder.
Clip
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oooo Skylab you lucky bastage !
been using the PP2 twisty for years.I still own 4 of em,,,but thier all banged up and have way too much play in deadzone,and ya cant count on the base buttons working all the time, #5 which i like to use as up view,,,,,conks out on every one of em
guess i better start shoppin myself,,,,,
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get some old thrustmaster pedals off ebay, got mine real cheap, or build your own, the twisty is great for learning but getting pedals allow you to get to a whole new level.
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Okay I got money to burn and I have this stick Cyborg Evo II. But want something better any suggestions?
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Originally posted by Mobius0077
Okay I got money to burn and I have this stick Cyborg Evo II. But want something better any suggestions?
If you have money to burn there is no other option than CH FighterStick, CH Pro Throttle & CH Pro Pedels (alternate option is SIMPED pedels, they are more expensive but better).
Any other choice would be foolish!
JMO
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
If you have money to burn there is no other option than CH FighterStick, CH Pro Throttle & CH Pro Pedels (alternate option is SIMPED pedels, they are more expensive but better).
Any other choice would be foolish!
JMO
Next best setup is Saitek X45 or X52 with CH Pro Pedels.
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Originally posted by tactic
go to stick setup, then select stick, then click on rudder and select input to none. :)
Hey I said what he (steve) said but just a little different, lol! more on how to do it, then if you could do it. but thought enough was said. :P lmao!!
Oh and I have a evo too.. Im just saying after all the returns and running around I've done myself, 300 or 400 dollars spent on a good setup, probley would have Saved me 300.00 in gas, time blah blah.. ya know.. ahem.....
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Clifra, your quote from Clint Eatwood is incorrect.
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I got a Saitek Cyborg Evo Force back before Christmas, and I love it. I've had Logitech's dating back to Air Warrior in the late 90's, and have never been truly happy with them, reliability and and smoothness are very lacking.
I wish I could afford and justify the CH stuff, but I just can't. I'd love to have a feedback yoke and rudders for P-38 flying, but the price is just too much.
I remember trying to fly with keyboard rudders, for me it was just a lost cause. The single biggest thing is to make sure you don't make rudder inputs when they're not needed, and make sure your natural wrist action does not reverse the rudders. Both will kill you fast.