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Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: TheWobble on March 04, 2001, 01:20:00 AM
Watching a thing about them on the history channel, now i have to abandon my beloved P-38 and fly the P-51 AGAIN.  GRRRR! gotta love that guncam footage.
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Animal on March 04, 2001, 08:57:00 AM
the germans where flying those strange looking 109s with Merlin engines
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Sunchaser on March 04, 2001, 08:59:00 AM
That movie was such a glossed over version it is almost a dishonor to those guys.

They were hampered at every step by top military leadership and when they did not fail miserably from the very beginning they were issued the bottom of the barrel planes to go to war in.

They got top of the line Mustangs only after we had so many produced there could not be any possible justification for denying them.

I believe that the attempts by military and civilian authorities to prove them unfit or inferior bordered on criminal.

Those guys were and are heros to their race and ours and have mostly been forgotten by both.




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When did they put this thing in here and WTF is it for?
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Animal on March 04, 2001, 10:45:00 AM
Its sad how the US was fighting a war against the nazi regime yet they themselves where acting this way to a group of guys who just wanted to fight the best they can for their own country, wich hated them.

I hate racism. I consider racist people to be pretty stupid and intellectually challenged. I have never met a racist person who was nearly as smart as I am. LOL they always make fools of themselves, poor tards.
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Tac on March 04, 2001, 12:27:00 PM
In 50 years racism in the US will be in the history books. Things change for the better in this case  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

Think about it, now we can finally pick on the Euros and their stinky lil' union  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Voss on March 04, 2001, 01:41:00 PM
Tac, take off the rose colored glasses! Before you make a remark like that you should travel to some of the pig trails and see how the world really works. I see bigotry and racism everyday. Sadly, I don't have to travel far to see it.

Sometime, when we're online ask me what happened to Nolan Richardson's horse.

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Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: TheWobble on March 04, 2001, 03:00:00 PM
I didnt watch the movie, just a special about them and what they went through..the most interesting thing I saw was how they talked about the saying that "they never lost a bomber"  the truth was that they never lost a bomber TO A FIGHTER, they lost many to FLAK but of course there wasnt anything they could do about it.  The thing i found most interesting was their tactic for escort, they wouldent chase fighters at all, insted they sould just kinds head them off and as soon as they started bugging out the ran back to the bombers, that way the bombers alwasy had escort VERY intellegent move IMO, some people called them cowards for never chasing down NME fighters but that wasnt their job, protecting the bombers was, and they did DAMN good job of that.
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Park on March 04, 2001, 04:26:00 PM
Ha! Tac.  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

"lil Union"? As much economic power as the US, possibly larger population - the world will be a much better place once it gets up and running.

Just think, US + EU - we can sort out the world once and for all!  (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)

We just have a few cultural differences to iron out - as long as we avoid a civil war, I don't care how it's done.
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: DRILL on March 04, 2001, 05:24:00 PM
i agree with sunchaser ..and i wont forget ..my father 30yrs AIR FORCE ..WW2 /korea/ vetnam/ AND 1 OF HIS BEST FRIENDS WAS A TUSKI airman ill never forget..thats just me

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Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Eagler on March 04, 2001, 07:27:00 PM
 (http://209.235.102.9/~boa11961/p51.jpg)
 (http://209.235.102.9/~boa11961/p51_1.jpg)

 (http://209.235.102.9/~boa11961/p51_2.jpg)

from my matchbox collection (1/72 scale)

Eagler

Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: paintmaw on March 04, 2001, 10:08:00 PM
sort out the world eh !! we are right everyone else is wrong ?? that toejam don't fly
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: paintmaw on March 04, 2001, 10:11:00 PM
Eagler , is that a Mr. T doll in the cockpit
"I pity da fool"
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Mk10 225th on March 05, 2001, 09:44:00 AM
Gosh Eagler, I figured most of the planes in your collection would have two right wings...    (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)

Mk
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Karnak on March 05, 2001, 04:24:00 PM
<S> to the Tuskegee Airmen!!!

<S> to the 442nd!

<S> to all those who fight for their nation, even though their nation won't do right by them.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on March 05, 2001, 04:44:00 PM
 
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Originally posted by Karnak:

<S> to the 442nd!


332nd, not 442nd. :-)
The first squadron was the 99th, and they fought in North Africa until two more squadrons were trained and shipped overseas to form the 332nd. Then they were given escort duties.
Amazing history, Red Tails Black Wings is a good book about them. Written by John B. Holway.
-SW
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: MrBill on March 05, 2001, 04:47:00 PM
Believe he was referring to the 442 regiment of Japanese Americans.

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Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: AKSeaWulfe on March 05, 2001, 05:15:00 PM
The ground unit? I had no idea because he didn't give a designation and the discussion started off on an air combat group. If he meant the Jap-Amer unit, then I'm sorry.
-SW
Title: DANGIT! Tuskegee Airmen!!!
Post by: Karnak on March 05, 2001, 06:30:00 PM
I was indeed refering to the Japanese American unit.

Sorry, I should have given some context.

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We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother

Bring the Spitfire F.MkXIVc to Aces High!!!

Sisu
-Karnak