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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Edbert1 on May 06, 2005, 09:09:24 AM
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http://jail.lfucg.com/services/offenders/offenderdetails/default.asp?inmateid=337&inmateimage=E149155.JPG
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is that real?
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thats sad...
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Yes it is real, look at the dates. VERY often he gets picked up the same day he is released!
It does make me wonder if they are looking for him, kind of like a spawn camper...wait, wait...he'll pop in any minute now...wait....THERE HE IS, GET HIM!
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Is that site for real?
So he has been detained from 4/26/2005 to 5/5/2005 for ALCOHOL INTOXICATION ???
Here we see again the great freedom and privacy you seem to enjoy over there.
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Originally posted by Edbert
It does make me wonder if they are looking for him, kind of like a spawn camper
spawn camping cops!!
bwhahahahaha!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by mora
Is that site for real?
So he has been detained from 4/26/2005 to 5/5/2005 for ALCOHOL INTOXICATION ???
Here we see again the great freedom and privacy you seem to enjoy over there.
Yeah cause those damn cops are braking into his house just to arest him I am sure.
:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by mora
So he has been detained from 4/26/2005 to 5/5/2005 for ALCOHOL INTOXICATION ???
Here we see again the great freedom and privacy you seem to enjoy over there.
While no expert, it usually means that he is drunk and disorderly, ie. he is a nuisance in public, and therefore has to be arrested to calm him down. Obviously he is a chronic offender, and is getting the maximum sentence each time which is jail time of 10 days apparently.
anyways, nice of you to come buy and take yet another poke at the US Mr. Amerihater...
:rolleyes:
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Hey, everyone's gotta have a hobby, right?
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My guess is that the food and bedding in jail is probably better than what they offer in the homeless shelters. There's no way he can have a house/job and end up spengin 25+ days in jail every month. That rap sheet goes back YEARS!
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So are you all okay with posting data like that on the internet or any other public media?
Innocent until proven guilty? Doesn't seem to be the case here.
IMO this is the worst kind of invasion of privacy there is.
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Originally posted by mora
Innocent until proven guilty? Doesn't seem to be the case here.
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umm that's his arrect record
not innocent, but convicted guilty, and served / serving the time
aww crap, i just fed a troll unwittingly dmnit
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Originally posted by JB73
umm that's his arrect record
not innocent, but convicted guilty, and served / serving the time
aww crap, i just fed a troll unwittingly dmnit
Exactly. That's excatly the thing I find unbelievable. Why make his data public if he hasn't been convicted of anything? Also 10 days for being drunk without a trial?
I might agree with a sex offender registry, but this is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by mora
Exactly. That's excatly the thing I find unbelievable. Why make his data public if he hasn't been convicted of anything?
you must be missing something in the translation
he HAS (past tense.. meaning this is just a history report) been convicted of all of those charges
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OK, the person has been convicted in a trial for 10 days in prison for being drunk. That does change things quite a bit. It never crossed my mind that you would put people on trial for things like that.
I however still don't agree with publishing persons data in a case like this. If a person is sentenced for 10 days for a thing like this I think it's more than enough. This turns it into a life sentence.
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Originally posted by GtoRA2
Yeah cause those damn cops are braking into his house just to arest him I am sure.
:rolleyes:
I've no problem with them arresting him, I'm sure he broke some law. If that's the will of the community, then it's fine by me. I simpy object the publishing of an arrest record.
:rolleyes: back at ya.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
anyways, nice of you to come buy and take yet another poke at the US Mr. Amerihater...
:rolleyes:
Well thank you. Would kindly show some of the previous pokes, so I could tulips the severity of my Amerihating syndrome?
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It is a matter of public record, Mora. It is only dangerous when the government makes arrest records secret.
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Originally posted by Lizking
It is a matter of public record, Mora. It is only dangerous when the government makes arrest records secret.
Ding Ding Ding!
He was arrested in PUBLIC, by a PUBLIC official, convicted in a PUBLIC forum, served time in a PUBLIC facility all paid for by the PUBLIC. Why should any of it be private? I would be very fearful of private police making private arrests with private sentencing to a private facility.
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Originally posted by Edbert
all paid for by the PUBLIC. .
out of all those (all good) this is a really good point i didn't think of.
i paid for that SOB to sit in jail, i paid the guy that aressted him, i paid the guy that fingerprinted him, i paid the balif who escorted him to court, i paid the judge, i paid the guards at the prison, i paid the construction workers that built the prison, i paid for his food in prison, and i have paid for many other parts of just his legal issues not mentioned.
i want to know where and how my taxpayer money is being spent.
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Originally posted by Edbert
Ding Ding Ding!
He was arrested in PUBLIC, by a PUBLIC official, convicted in a PUBLIC forum, served time in a PUBLIC facility all paid for by the PUBLIC. Why should any of it be private? I would be very fearful of private police making private arrests with private sentencing to a private facility.
You sound like a bitter old man. If you are so concerned about how your money is spend, then why arrest this person in the first place? And why setup a trial for him with your money? You are not saving money if 1/10 or something like that of population is sitting in a prison. Especially when your crimerate is what it is, despite of that..
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Originally posted by mora
If you are so conserned how your money is spend, then why arrest this person in the first place? And why setup a trial for him with your money?
My point wasn't about the money, it was about the public versus private nature of his police record and the angle you were taking. While I am not exactly happy that taxpayers have shelled out thousands of dollars on this human derilect I beleive it was JB73 who expresses major concern over the dollars. I myself would rather him be in jail than wandering out in traffic in his drunken state. I might hit him and mess up my paint/sheetmetal, I seriously doubt he has insurance!
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Not drinking today, but i have just finished my 6th snickers bar. For some reason i have a craving for something sweet.
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Originally posted by Edbert
My point wasn't about the money, it was about the public versus private nature of his police record and the angle you were taking. While I am not exactly happy that taxpayers have shelled out thousands of dollars on this human derilect I beleive it was JB73 who expresses major concern over the dollars. I myself would rather him be in jail than wandering out in traffic in his drunken state. I might hit him and mess up my paint/sheetmetal, I seriously doubt he has insurance!
Sorry, about the confusion, been drinking.. Anyway, I doubt the reason to set up this service was the freedom of the suspect or the public, and it wasn't mandated by the law.
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Originally posted by Edbert
http://jail.lfucg.com/services/offenders/offenderdetails/default.asp?inmateid=337&inmateimage=E149155.JPG
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In California we call this a "homeless" person and encourage his behavior.
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Originally posted by Edbert
Ding Ding Ding!
He was arrested in PUBLIC, by a PUBLIC official, convicted in a PUBLIC forum, served time in a PUBLIC facility all paid for by the PUBLIC. Why should any of it be private? I would be very fearful of private police making private arrests with private sentencing to a private facility.
Beware of the cultural clash :)
Perhaps in the US (well certainly :) ) it's right and legal to publish the record of a criminal.
But in some countries like mine it's seen as an attack in his basic right ,illegal and finally wrong.
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Not drinking today, but i have just finished my 6th snickers bar. For some reason i have a craving for something sweet.
you're pregnant ?
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Not drinking today, but i have just finished my 6th snickers bar. For some reason i have a craving for something sweet.
have you recently missed your period? ;)
Mora,
Also we have what's called the "freedom of information act" This makes it so the public has access to govt records to help hold the govt accountable for its actions. It's got it's ups and downs.
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Nah... i was enjoying a plant.
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The guy is homeless and most likely has a mental condition. Cheaper to throw him in jail and ignore the problem than it is to treat him.
Nils, get a Snickers Ice Cream Bar if they are available there. They hit the spot.;)
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Originally posted by rpm
The guy is homeless and most likely has a mental condition. Cheaper to throw him in jail and ignore the problem than it is to treat him.
Nils, get a Snickers Ice Cream Bar if they are available there. They hit the spot.;)
Oh yes they do :) or Japp if you get that over there.
(http://www.stud.uni-karlsruhe.de/~uzarj/images/news/dozenten/japp.jpg)
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Never heard of a JAPP bar. I'm intrigued.
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Its kinda like Mars only abit lighter/brighter chocolate i think.
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Sounds like a Zero.
(http://www.sweetstall.com/acatalog/zero.jpg)
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no no... not albino-bar.
I just read about it, and Japp is Mars (or as Mars was in 1949)
A guy at Freia candy factory in Norway asked a soldier named Forest Mars who also happened to own (i think) Mars Confections Ltd. if they could produce the mars bar on license here. Forest answered: “Norway that little brave nation, can have it free and forever!”
And that is the history of Japp. No idea why they came up with that name but it was all i could find on Freias homepage.
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After closer inspection, I think it's more like a Milky Way or 3 Musketeers. Milk chocolate, cocoa merengue (nugat) and caramel.
Still, does not hold a candle to a Snickers Ice Cream Bar.
(http://images.healthclub.com/branding/ck/runtime/updates/1.jpg)
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agreed
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why dont they actually help him instead of arresting > release > arresting > release?
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I like the Baby Ruth myself, though the chocolate has a bad habit of breaking loose and falling all over.
dago
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There are aliens amongst us.
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Originally posted by rpm
Nils, get a Snickers Ice Cream Bar if they are available there. They hit the spot.;)
That's sooooo, like, 4 months ago or so. Right Nils? :D
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Originally posted by JB73
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aww crap, i just fed a troll unwittingly dmnit
That's OK, we forgive you because of your avatar :)
culero
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Nah... i was enjoying a plant.
Bogart! :p
culero
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mora seems kinda sensitive about alcholism. We allready know how he feels about the U.S.
lazs
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Last Name: EARL
First Name: HENRY
Middle Name:
Sex: M
Race: B
Date of Birth: 10/24/1949
Age: 55
Hair: BLACK
Eyes: BR
Height: 5' 08"
Weight: 140 lbs
InmateID: 337
LOLOL :rofl
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
That's sooooo, like, 4 months ago or so. Right Nils? :D
4 months ago? who the heck remembers 4 months ago?. I shat this morning and thats about it.
;)
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mora, my first reaction was an urge to tell you that you're a dumb-ass.
~disclaimer: I didn't say he's a dumb-ass. Even if I had, it wouldn't have been a personal attack, just an attempt to alert someone to a potential problem they may wish to compensate for. Therefore, even if I'd given in to the urge I'd have been performing an act of benevolent service. No need to compliment me for that, however, I'm always glad to be a helpful community member :)
disclaimer © 2005 by culero, all rights reserved~
However, on reflection perhaps I don't understand you, and don't understand Finns. So, indulge me with some dialogue, please...
Do you folks in Finland find it acceptable for people who drink enough alcohol to become intoxicated to then misbehave in ways that are offensive and perhaps dangerous to others around them?
Or is it that in Finland people are such skillful drinkers that they never cause problems as a result of their intoxication?
We do have laws here that prohibit public intoxication. However, our police do not seek people out to test whether or not they are intoxicated. These laws are only enforced when someone is being a nuisance to others, is being offensive to others, or is engaging in behavior that may be dangerous to others.
In cases like this, the police officer who responds may choose to enforce the law regarding public intoxication if it seems appropriate. Doing so may simply be the most appropriate thing to do because in fact, its the person's intoxication that caused the problem which required the police officer's attention, and in this way the person is removed to a safe area (jail) so that the immediate problem is alleviated without other citizens having to become involved as witnesses, etc.
I hope I haven't wasted my time here explaining the obvious to a dumb-ass, and that this has been helpful.
Oh, ****, I need this again....
~disclaimer: I didn't say he's a dumb-ass. Even if I had, it wouldn't have been a personal attack, just an attempt to alert someone to a potential problem they may wish to compensate for. Therefore, even if I'd given in to the urge I'd have been performing an act of benevolent service. No need to compliment me for that, however, I'm always glad to be a helpful community member :)
disclaimer © 2005 by culero, all rights reserved~
culero ;)
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Originally posted by lada
Last Name: EARL
First Name: HENRY
Middle Name:
Sex: M
Race: B
Date of Birth: 10/24/1949
Age: 55
Hair: BLACK
Eyes: BR
Height: 5' 08"
Weight: 140 lbs
InmateID: 337
If you think he's being persecuted due to his skin color you should file a complaint with the Director in charge of the facility.
(http://jail.lfucg.com/rbishop.bmp)
Division of Community Corrections
600 Old Frankfort Circle
Lexington, Kentucky 40510
(859) 425-2700
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If they get drunk too often the ice bears will eventually kill and eat them and end the problem.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
If they get drunk too often the ice bears will eventually kill and eat them and end the problem.
lazs
Ahhh....Finns as polar bear food. Interesting concept :)
culero
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Originally posted by lazs2
mora seems kinda sensitive about alcholism. We allready know how he feels about the U.S.
lazs
And exactly how do I feel about the US? Am I an Amerihater if I disagree with anything what happens there?
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Originally posted by mora
If alcohol is legal then why should it be illegal to be drunk? I
Because you can be a serious threat to others? I'm sure you folks have "drunk driving" laws.
You don't have to be in a vehicle to endanger/annoy others when you are drunk.
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There is no law in existance against being drunk in the privacy of your own property. When you take your drunk arse out in public and behave in a disorderly manner you can get a PI charge against you just as another penalty to try to teach you a lesson. This subject apparantly has a learning disorder in addition to his drinking problem.
All arrest records are public, not all of them are published on the intardnet, but I expect that to changeover the next few years. In some communities you get your name and picture in the newspaper if you are arrested for DWI, this is merely an extension of that.
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I don't get it... I you are a drinking free spirt..
Shouldn't yu be proud of your zany and whacky behavior and want everyone to know how much you enjoy your life of drinking?
lazs
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Thats not what I heard... The truth is..
they let the ice bears eat em.
lazs
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Dang mora thats enough for you today, even Im seeing double.
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Just for educational purposes..
There are no icebears in Suomi. (unless you count pale Suomi'sts) ;)
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Originally posted by Pooh21
Dang mora thats enough for you today, even Im seeing double.
:rofl
Lets try again..
Originally posted by culero
However, on reflection perhaps I don't understand you, and don't understand Finns. So, indulge me with some dialogue, please...
Do you folks in Finland find it acceptable for people who drink enough alcohol to become intoxicated to then misbehave in ways that are offensive and perhaps dangerous to others around them?
Or is it that in Finland people are such skillful drinkers that they never cause problems as a result of their intoxication?
I think it's about the same here really. Arrest do happen here too if you misbehave, not for being drunk though. If you pass out on the street they will likely take you in for your own safety, especially during the winter. If alcohol is legal then why should it be illegal to be drunk?
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Originally posted by Edbert
In some communities you get your name and picture in the newspaper if you are arrested for DWI, this is merely an extension of that.
And you do not see any problem with that? How about letting a court convict them first before posting their pictures on the newspaper?
You are making the PO the judge here, and hand him the power to toss out life sentences.
Originally posted by Edbert
When you take your drunk arse out in public and behave in a disorderly manner you can get a PI charge against you just as another penalty to try to teach you a lesson.
I agree with this completely. If you behave in a disorderly manner you should be arrested.
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Originally posted by Toad
Because you can be a serious threat to others? I'm sure you folks have "drunk driving" laws.
You don't have to be in a vehicle to endanger/annoy others when you are drunk.
You can be a danger/annoyance to others even when you are totally sober.
I went to a bar last night, had three beers with friends and walked home as always. In the US it would have been a criminal offence apparently?
Anything may happen. For example, people shoot each other with weapons everyday, should it be legal to own and operate potentially dangerous equipment?(no, I'm not against gun ownership, merely questioning your logic)