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Title: Just a Thought
Post by: thebest1 on May 06, 2005, 08:16:34 PM
I was wondering if HTC got rid of the entire score system.

1. people would stay for the fight
2. no scorepotatos
3. more interesting fights
4. lots of angry replys lol
Title: Re: Just a Thought
Post by: Tails on May 06, 2005, 08:38:45 PM
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Originally posted by thebest1
I was wondering if HTC got rid of the entire score system.

1. people would stay for the fight
2. no scorepotatos
3. more interesting fights
4. lots of angry replys lol


Then it would go from scorepotatos to perkpotatos again.
Title: Re: Just a Thought
Post by: Redd on May 06, 2005, 09:21:00 PM
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Originally posted by thebest1
I was wondering if HTC got rid of the entire score system.

1. people would stay for the fight
2. no scorepotatos
3. more interesting fights
4. lots of angry replys lol



That is definitely the case.  The Beta's (no scores)  have always had better fights.

The problem is they have to provide scores for the game to appeal to the "score-minded" , which is a large chunk of the audience.   The biggest shame is the fact that total score is linked to GV's and buffs etc.  The only reason many people do that stuff is for the score, which is artificially taking the focus away from fighter combat.
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: DipStick on May 06, 2005, 09:35:53 PM
Couldn't hurt to try one tour without scores just to see, could it?
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: airbumba on May 06, 2005, 09:38:58 PM
What if scores were only squad based? Only your squad can see them? (Some squads use that to rank their guys.)

Personaly, I'd like to see no scores, since it don't matter anyway.
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: eilif on May 06, 2005, 10:19:49 PM
in TOD it sure would rock if there was no score just military rank, tho it seems alot of ppl out there just love to game the game and forget what its all about, and what its all about is no where near what ma is!
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: megadud on May 06, 2005, 10:32:50 PM
I'M all about score and rank! I would be appalled if they took it away! That is the only fun in the game. Why not just take away the lala and the 109s geeze you people are crazy!  

:p :p :p


MEGASTUDLYDUD :D
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Tails on May 06, 2005, 10:41:20 PM
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Originally posted by megadud
I'M all about score and rank! I would be appalled if they took it away! That is the only fun in the game. Why not just take away the lala and the 109s geeze you people are crazy!  

:p :p :p


MEGASTUDLYDUD :D


Funny.  For me the only fun in the game is flying around and shooting holes in stuff, or dieing trying. I dont even know HOW to check my score (and if I did, I'd be affraid to look :rofl )

I dont mean to rag on anyone, but how can you get enjoyment out of a number?
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: SuperDud on May 07, 2005, 12:06:06 AM
TAILS, that was a troll. Mega's got 1 of the lowest scores in the game. Plus, he's just plain no good.
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: MOIL on May 07, 2005, 06:05:28 AM
Iv'e stated this from day one, if a game is driven by points, perks, numbers, rank or score then most {not all} will play the game for those reasons.

Myself, I could give a you-know-what about scores and ranks. Who bloody cares, there's always someone better than you the next day anyways.

My 2 cents
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Ghosth on May 07, 2005, 07:36:06 AM
Score will give you ulcers, make you go bald sooner, and in general mess with your game.

Rank is virtually useless, as almost anyone can bomb a sortie, GV a sortie, and fly goon a sortie a couple times a week and get good rank.

I agree for TOD we need to redo rank, and it should be out of sight on our part.

As you fly & fight your rank would be adjusted depending on sucess,  successfull landings, etc.
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: megadud on May 07, 2005, 08:47:04 AM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
TAILS, that was a troll. Mega's got 1 of the lowest scores in the game. Plus, he's just plain no good.


shut up superdoof! i'm better then you'll ever be! I beat you up all the time in DA and TA. and i have a low score because im not a scorepotato like you. you can take you 3.1 k/d ratio and stick it...well you know


MEGASTUDLYDUD :mad:
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: SkyChimp on May 07, 2005, 08:53:23 AM
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Originally posted by megadud
shut up superdoof! i'm better then you'll ever be! I beat you up all the time in DA and TA. and i have a low score because im not a scorepotato like you. you can take you 3.1 k/d ratio and stick it...well you know


MEGASTUDLYDUD :mad:

:lol
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Furball on May 07, 2005, 09:10:57 AM
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Originally posted by megadud
you can take you 3.1 k/d ratio and stick it...well you know

 


on your fridge next to all your F's just to smite you?
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Virage on May 07, 2005, 09:19:06 AM
:aok  Great post.

I am not against keeping score.  There are many players that enjoy playing for score and it is a great hook to keep players paying the bills.

However, I believe the prominence of the RANKING on the ROSTER creates a negative influence on the MA and community as a whole.  Noname + Norank = being ignored or ridiculed.  Not a great way to introduce the game to newbies.  Think of other online games that don't include RANK next to your name.  Generaly much more laid back and social.

2 ideas/solutions:

Remove rank from roster and make the info web based only for those who enjoy it.  My first flight sim FA used this and it worked imo.  Maybe just keep the .command for those that must look up scores.


Offer an option to 'not keep score' for those players that would like to play without the 'pressure'.
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Lye-El on May 07, 2005, 09:28:27 AM
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Originally posted by eilif
in TOD it sure would rock if there was no score just military rank


Then it would be like the real life Military. You can have rank but no skills.  i.e. the Butter bar vs. the combat vet Sgt.   :D
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Tails on May 07, 2005, 10:14:12 AM
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Originally posted by Lye-El
Then it would be like the real life Military. You can have rank but no skills.  i.e. the Butter bar vs. the combat vet Sgt.   :D


AMEN!!

(although, I have met some fairly useful butterbars...rare, but it happens)
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: SuperDud on May 07, 2005, 11:38:10 AM
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Originally posted by Furball
on your fridge next to all your F's just to smite you?


:rofl :rofl :lol :rofl :rofl

He got a D on 1 of'em. He managed to stay on the paper with his crayons. BTW my k/d ratio isn't 3:1, but thanks for playing.
Title: Re: Just a Thought
Post by: Schatzi on May 07, 2005, 12:08:54 PM
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Originally posted by thebest1
I was wondering if HTC got rid of the entire score system.

1. people would stay for the fight
2. no scorepotatos
3. more interesting fights
4. lots of angry replys lol



1. No, theyd still be afraid of 'dying'/loosing (bad for ego)
2. Maybe. But then wed have lost 95% of the players (if were all truthful, we do care if were good at the game -  and despite all faults, the score/statistics are a way to see improvement)
3. No, intresting fights will still be rare. But if you found one youll feel all the better for it.
4. no comment ;)



Oh, and why the discussion comes up again and again ill never understand: For those that dont like scoring... just ignore the .score command!
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Roscoroo on May 07, 2005, 01:01:54 PM
Tree's 25 ...  Roscoroo 0

Perk the oaks ....
Title: Re: Re: Just a Thought
Post by: Jish102 on May 07, 2005, 01:42:46 PM
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Originally posted by Schatzi
1. No, theyd still be afraid of 'dying'/loosing (bad for ego)
2. Maybe. But then wed have lost 95% of the players (if were all truthful, we do care if were good at the game -  and despite all faults, the score/statistics are a way to see improvement)
3. No, intresting fights will still be rare. But if you found one youll feel all the better for it.
4. no comment ;)



Oh, and why the discussion comes up again and again ill never understand: For those that dont like scoring... just ignore the .score command!


AMEN!
Title: Just a Thought
Post by: Tabasco on May 07, 2005, 02:53:28 PM
How I play affects my score, but so what?  Ultimately, my score doesn't affect how I play.