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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SkyChimp on May 08, 2005, 08:02:20 AM
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well I've lost about 25kills because of the damn trees I doubt that the trees were 200ft tall. So why so tall make them 70ft or so.
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~S~ Trees!
culero (hey, give credit where credit's due!)
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rofl
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I could go with them being a little shorter, and I'd like to see the trees at the end of the runways cut down too. But overall I love the trees, an opinion I am well aware places me into the minority.
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The real problem I have with the trees isnt so much that there there. It is how they are placed. There is nowhere on the maps anymore where you have large clearings. It is all just thick forest. A jungle more like it.
Second the trees are around two hundred feet tall. The grouping they are in makes the whole thing look like a tree building around the length of a football feild.
Third they are sitting right on the end of the runway. On some maps they even are sitting on the taxi way to the re-arming pads. They need to be pushed back away from the feilds to some of our heavier aircraft can safely take off.
Forth there ugly as sin. I know there has to be a way to model a tree without making it look like they currently do. The frame hits on my system are around 10-15FPS less than before. I fly a P-51 so I am up there, but I do notice it on approach to land and on take offs.
What really gets me is hitech is a fellow pilot in real life, he knows better than this. He knows trees are not two hundred feet tall and they are not sitting on the very end of a runway. I have to almost think that it is a matter of not caring so much as a matter of knowlege. I say remove the trees untill they can get them 100% right.
-Wells
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Originally posted by Kegger26
Third they are sitting right on the end of the runway. On some maps they even are sitting on the taxi way to the re-arming pads. They need to be pushed back away from the feilds to some of our heavier aircraft can safely take off.
Forth there ugly as sin. I know there has to be a way to model a tree without making it look like they currently do. The frame hits on my system are around 10-15FPS less than before. I fly a P-51 so I am up there, but I do notice it on approach to land and on take offs.
What really gets me is hitech is a fellow pilot in real life, he knows better than this. He knows trees are not two hundred feet tall and they are not sitting on the very end of a runway. I have to almost think that it is a matter of not caring so much as a matter of knowlege.
my opinion for your 3rd is, if you see a tree or object on a runway or rearm pad, post a thread in the bug forum, listing terrain name and field #, so Skuzzy & /or HTC staff can find the problem faster with out reading thru all the blab.
my opinion for the rest of all the trees are, they look better now than what we had to start with, and we just did get the object editor not to long ago, so patience is of the essence, things get better it just takes a little time.......
TC
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
well I've lost about 25kills because of the damn trees I doubt that the trees were 200ft tall. So why so tall make them 70ft or so.
they look about the right height to me, not nearly 200ft tall. maybe the trees where you live are just gimpy midgets.
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hey culero, I thought Texas just outlawed cheerleaders doing that stuff? :D
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
well I've lost about 25kills because of the damn trees I doubt that the trees were 200ft tall. So why so tall make them 70ft or so.
how did you lose 25 kills? because a weedwhacking pile-it flying thru the trees cost you to clip a wing and auger, while they got away or you had the kills you just was not able to land them, because again you was chasing some weedwhacking pile-it thru the trees and he got away or you was chased and you ran into the trees? or you was coming into land and was to low on approach and clipped the trees? :) (think bbqribs )
TC
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Originally posted by vorticon
they look about the right height to me, not nearly 200ft tall. maybe the trees where you live are just gimpy midgets.
They look right to you??!!
Here's a P-38 parked right next to a tree. The P-38 has a 52 ft wing span... That makes this tree at least 300 feet tall, or 3 times the height of a 50 year-old oak.
Face facts, the trees are poorly proportioned and indiscriminately placed. They do not contribute to the extent that they inhibit.
(http://home.att.net/~c.c.jordan/350FtTrees.jpg)
My regards,
Widewing
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Hey, I've been looking for one of those for my kid. Where'd you find that one?
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Mando posted this pic on Moph's thread on this subject.
(http://www.terra.es/personal2/matias.s/trees.gif)
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its the knights of ni!
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Originally posted by Widewing
They look right to you??!!
Here's a P-38 parked right next to a tree. The P-38 has a 52 ft wing span... That makes this tree at least 300 feet tall, or 3 times the height of a 50 year-old oak.
My regards,
Widewing
:lol that makes that tree 104 ft tall, less actually because the perspective showing the wingspan is wonky, or by stacking the planes tip to tail, 111 ft (3x p38 length) tall, and again, the perspective isnt directly horizontal.
walk a bailed pilot to the base of a tree,go into 3rd person veiw and see how many men make a tree, its 12, making the tree 24 meters tall.
also, when you look to the top of the tree, to me, who grew up within 100 meters of a ****ing forest (and the relativly small treed boreal forest at that) from directly under the tree, it looks basicly right to me, maybe a little high, but nowhere near the crazy height people are claiming.
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Originally posted by vorticon
:lol that makes that tree 104 ft tall, less actually because the perspective showing the wingspan is wonky, or by stacking the planes tip to tail, 111 ft (3x p38 length) tall, and again, the perspective isnt directly horizontal.
Three words: Betty Ford Clinic.
My regards,
Widewing
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Now THAT was the funniest thing I have read in a while.
On the other hand, I did loose a 262 taking off from a large airbase the other day because some gardener decided to put a 300 foot sycamor tree on the end of the runway.. Sigh
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I'm a LumberJack and I'm OK...
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If you find a field at sea level, and fly JUST ABOVE the trees (where you're dinging your prop if you go any lower) it says 200ft ASL. The trees are 200 feet tall.
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The trees are 200 hundred feet tall. Hell one of them looks like a maple tree too. A 200 hundred foot tall maple. That would be great.
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Avoiding trees isn't a problem for me. The only killer would have to be the sensation of speed. Doesn't 'feel' as great with larger objects wizzing by. :)
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Only time I get hit by them, is when im dogfighting, and not paying attention to them as much as I should.
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Well Monday I'm calling a tree trimmer, gunna get them freaking things trimmed. The trees that stay put are fine, its the trees that grow to 300 feet right before your eyes while headed to runway or off the runway.
Funny too is the trees and bushes that appear and disappear like there is a weed wacker on the front of my gv. :p
I just wana know whos side these trees on? I'm suspecting there not on my side, reason being they always seem to grab me outa the sky but the guy on my six <----- hate that guy) seems to cruse through them never contacting 1 leaf. Probley because I just cleared the whole forest with my props and wings.
Mostly they bend my props and nothing else. HT please put some weed wacker string on my props so it will trim the trees enough to clear my blades. thank you! :) lmao!
Its all good. just messing around, I'm not complaining really I'm not. HT is doing fine job getting things corrected. Its getting there!!
(edit) Oh ya I checked the score board and yup its a fact.... Trees show 2500 fighter kills, 2500 bomber kills , 2500 attack kills, 2500 vehicle kills. 1 sortie, no deaths. squad rank of 1 and overall rank 1 , There is tree spys everywhere, there in every country. Green sob's
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I like the way the trees look! They are light years ahead of the trees a few patches back. It is hard to lift lanc's from some fields, but with 1/4 tank it is posible at most fields. In fighters I see no problems at all. Runways are several times longer than needed for take off or landing over the trees. If trees pop up at last second - set details to see objects further out - or um...this is tough...fly above 200 feet AGL.
Did you all forget how bad trees looked in AHII a few monthes back?
DawgWx
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I saw 20 b24s crash after taking off for a mission its just bs lol:eek: :eek: :eek: 20! 20!
Make the trees shorter plz.
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trees to tall..that would be ok if i could turn my graphics detail up without losing a ton of fps..as is i cant see them until 50 feet in front of me..
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A flip side is How you can run around em to evaid. I have done that a few times to save my keester.
Overall the trees are real cool, big improvement, especially from AH1.
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I'm beginning to despair that the tree "problem" will ever be taken care of.
It's been about a month since people began complaining about trees.
And they have been really complaining.
In all that time we have not seen any sign that HTC is addressing the tree issue.
In this case, I fear, silence is speaking volumes. A love of eye candy (and apparent mutant eye candy that appears intent on taking over the world) seems to be trumping the desire to correct a problem affecting at least a respectable portion of their customer base.
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Maybe that guy behind you tactic was me. I am getting many more kills in and amongst the trees than I am dying to the trees. Like crazy monk said, roll to 90 degrees, descend with your wingtips to about 125 feet, pass a big ole maple tree and pull back. Then just sit back and watch your pursuers smak into it. but don;t hold that 6 view too long...LOL...did that once or twice...LOL.
Get em off the runways though, I think 500 yds at least should be cleared.
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chopping down trees at end of runways requires special timber permits so that prolly wont happen.
after careful study I have determined trees to be 121.87892 feet tall, little bit above average height for the species but certainly attainable, trees at runways probably benefiting from outhouse discharges and water runoff from solid surfaces.
SAVE THE TREES
..and at least include them in the roster to accurately assess who is really the king of the hill.
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Originally posted by AmRaaM
chopping down trees at end of runways requires special timber permits so that prolly wont happen.
after careful study I have determined trees to be 121.87892 feet tall, little bit above average height for the species but certainly attainable, trees at runways probably benefiting from outhouse discharges and water runoff from solid surfaces.
SAVE THE TREES
..and at least include them in the roster to accurately assess who is really the king of the hill.
ROFL
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Originally posted by AmRaaM
..and at least include them in the roster to accurately assess who is really the king of the hill.
Trees: @$^#^% I was just short of the runway and didnt get to land my 5439 kills!!!!
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I did a test 4 tile terrain no elv some one told me it was the elv not the tree that were 200ft. So two forest tiles one grass one farm trees are 200ft.
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Grrr hitech gave the trees to much miracle grow :lol
plz change the trees.
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Simple to cure-----> .Mcculloughchainsaw :D
After losing 7 planes in 3 flights to disco yesterday, the trees ain`t so bad in the scheme of things.
I`m beaking out the puffy sleeve shirt, the mile high shoes and the gold chains cause I got more disco than Travolta. :D
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Well thats the good thing 3 tree kills w00t gang bangin dweebs muhahaha ;) But still to tall i say i go in trees when i do dumb thing to get away ;) works 2 but still to damn tall!
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The new trees are bad..... very bad
Clip
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ROFLMAO GHI:lol :rofl
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Where can i order it at? :D
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Who is this guy TREES?
How is he getting so many kills?
Whats his K/S and K/T ratios??
How did he get to 200' tall?
(wonder if its just a shade of Paul Bunyan)
{BTW, Hiya Guys! just thought to crawl out from under my rock}
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The tallest tree is an English Oak that is around 170 ft.
The Silver Birch is just over 150 ft.
The Common Ash is about 110 ft.
Sorry, no 200 ft. trees.
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Originally posted by ghi
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..... and the tree wins again
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY
The tallest tree is an English Oak that is around 170 ft.
The Silver Birch is just over 150 ft.
The Common Ash is about 110 ft.
Sorry, no 200 ft. trees.
You didn't think AHers have any tendancy to exaggerate now did ya?
Now get back to work!
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY
The tallest tree is an English Oak that is around 170 ft.
The Silver Birch is just over 150 ft.
The Common Ash is about 110 ft.
Sorry, no 200 ft. trees.
English Oak:
Height: (ultimate) 100 feet
Silver Birch:
Height: up to 100 feet (40-60 feet average)
Common Ash:
Height: 60 to 80 feet
Spread: 60 to 90 feet
AH is about 80-100% over the average.
Trees also kill planes at very low speeds. Taxi plane to the tree. You'll get killed even at 1 mph
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Originally posted by SUPERFLY
The tallest tree is an English Oak that is around 170 ft.
The Silver Birch is just over 150 ft.
The Common Ash is about 110 ft.
Sorry, no 200 ft. trees.
Ever heard of redwoods?
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Originally posted by Donzo
Ever heard of redwoods?
He speaks of trees ingame.
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Originally posted by Octavius
He speaks of trees ingame.
oh...ok then. HT just change the textures to look like redwoods. :) ...problem solved (retain the height and maintain the physical "accuracy" of the trees)
(or just make the existing trees shorter)
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Better yet...how about bonsai trees instead?:lol
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AHII Revised Statutes sec 2, subsec 4.23 clearly states:
All trees over 100 ' tall are to be considered Old Growth Forrest.
AHII Revised Statutes Sec 2, Subsec 4.0 clearly states:
It shall be a violation of this Statute to cut down, deface, limb, top, ring, thin, de-bark, exfoliate, de-pixillate, hack, bushwhack, or in any way harass Old Growth Forrest.
Violation of this Statute shall result in:
First Offence: Cleaning the latrines at AH Con for three nights.
Second Offense: Cleaning Skuzzy's latrine every night for one year.
Third Offense: Permanent banning from AHII.
And God Help You if there's a Spotted Owl in one of them trees!
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Aww damn super sry sir but i have bout 10screen shots showing other wise. You can clearly see im not even gunna clear some
(http://www.thehabboway.com/ahss176.jpg)
map i made no elv just for tiles.
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Originally posted by ghi
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Nice Beaver!
eskimo
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Do you take visa?:eek:
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Nobody ever listens.
Like I said in another thread.......It is not the trees that are getting you. It is them damn pesky leaf gnomes. To further that I have also spotted on two occasions, the illusive green branch ninja.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Nobody ever listens.
Like I said in another thread.......It is not the trees that are getting you. It is them damn pesky leaf gnomes. To further that I have also spotted on two occasions, the illusive green branch ninja.
:eek: Uh oh lol what should i do?
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
:eek: Uh oh lol what should i do?
Well I`ve tried tieng a string with a cat`s foot and a clove of garlic around my neck. Seems to ward em off pretty good. :D
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ROFL
Green branch Ninja.
Is that a type of Chigger?:eek:
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Originally posted by Morpheus
Green branch Ninja.
Is that a type of Chigger?:eek:
Oh no no no. You have to have a completely different Flick`n syatem for the green branch tree ninja. I`m working on a prototype now. :D
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:lol
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ROFL chiggers in the trees cherry picking planes as they fly by.
Tree Chigger Ninjas
:lol
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Originally posted by Stang
ROFL chiggers in the trees cherry picking planes as they fly by.
Tree Chigger Ninjas
:lol
Gotta remember that they got .45s now. The danger increases.