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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: JB73 on May 08, 2005, 10:11:42 AM
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1115564702_panellines.jpg)
all lines straight form my book, closest as i can get them.
starting on rivets.
followed the instructions here:
http://www.squadronspotlight.netfirms.com/riveting.html
they look like s***. ; ( can't get it to work right, even though all settings are exactly like they say. looks like i'll end up doping pixel by pixel ; ( GRRRR
still not sure what i am going to do with the canopy, because of the stretching. i might leave the lines off, they seem like they will not be seen with the camo anyway. we'll see how it goes.
anyone want the template (psp file layered) i can email it to them
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dora? or what send it to me
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yes dora... email?
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sure
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
sure
sure @ what.com?
lol
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I might ask for it.. but I'm not going to skin any doras... So few good skins to make, and they're all vouched for or done. So I'll leave the doras up to y'all.
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I made this real fast jb73
First off you should always use a million colors then when your done go to 256.
For sideways panel i use the pen tool here is a picture
I marked it with blue what you should check or uncheck.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/605_1115574131_jb73.jpg)
To make rivets you click on the line style and customize them and have your own style. I use about 7 space and i make oppacity low. here is a picture.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/605_1115574145_jb732.jpg)
Hope this helped out.
Spade
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skychimp(at)cox(dot)net
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On second thought I'll look it over :P
mark(at)nakatomitower(dot)com
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JB, after a quick test with the riveting, this is as close as I can get to looking decent. Note that on my website you used as reference, the skins are done in 2048x2048 resolution, so things will look different by the time you get it down to 1024x1024. Sorry for that confusion.
I just did a little panel on the underside. They don't look as neat as Waffle's, but this is as close as I can get it to looking right.
If you want to screw around with it some, I can post a picture of what the settings are in PSP to get that.
(http://www.r0013636.hostultra.com/United/JBtest.jpg)
*Note - Check my sig for a few more things you may want to look around at. They're not great, but its a start. Kev367th is also adding material to the site, but I haven't added some of it yet. (Sorry Kev...)
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Working at higher resolution is not always the best.
Ideally, if a skin is done at 1024x1024, then the best way to skin it is at 1024x1024 and none other.
The largest problem when doing a skin at higher resolutions than it is supposed to be, is that when it is reduced in size, no matter how good the graphics program is, you will experience a sharp drop in quality.
This is especially problematic when, for example, you try to make emblems, markings, or numbers in higher resolution/larger size than it is supposed be. A Hakenkreuz(the german cross) done twice the size as it is supposed to be might look great, but if you reduce it in size to match the actual size that would be applied to the wings, then you will get ugly anti-aliased borders - fuzzy and unclear.
My recommendation is, if you are creating markings, emblems, panel lines, dots, rivets and anything that needs a very clear depiction, do it in the original size/resolution.
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Kweassa, I have discovered this (the hard way unfortunately) and no longer work at 2048x2048. At the time I wrote up that rivets page though, I did use the higher resolution.
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some updates...
panel lines all done, all rivets but lower wings.
i threw some BS color on there for a look not white
anyone got some tips for the material.txt file, and what does what?
also will email out the template tomorrow when rivets are done.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1115605747_untitled02.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1115605730_untitled.jpg)
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Material.txt defines whether the skin is BMF or not (like for B17s and B24s). You don't need it for 190s
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curious what you experienced skinners think of the rivets i did.
i took a few liberties with the wings and made less lines of rivets than most do. partly because i have yet to see a pic of a 190 where any rivets were showing on the top of the wing. and second i can not find a solid resource where the actual rivet lines were.
i plan no having a few more lines on the bott of the wings, because i have an actual reference photo sort of.
man i wanna go home "sick" from work and work more on the skin LMFAO
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WHen you zoom with the skinviewer it distorts things with the wide-angle lens effect, so this may not actually be an issue , but the access panel on the starboard side looks too high to me.
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It would so great to be able to paint directly on the 3 D model ...
Hint hint HT :D
1 hour coding I swear ;)
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Originally posted by Edbert
WHen you zoom with the skinviewer it distorts things with the wide-angle lens effect, so this may not actually be an issue , but the access panel on the starboard side looks too high to me.
i wish i had a scanner....
my book shows it right beneath the canopy lines.
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Were you ever going to e-mail me this template? :P
mark(at)nakatomitower.com
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Originally posted by Krusty
Were you ever going to e-mail me this template? :P
mark(at)nakatomitower.com
lmao sorry, i got into another part of the project, and didn't want to send out a 1/2 ased job.
i will email tonight what i have, but mind you i am still working on some basic stuff.
right now i am making an outline of the actual surfaces, so you basically "color inside the lines" i have the whole fuselage done, and it works perfect. everything outside the lines is pard of the background with the wheels and stuff.
it took some serious work to egt where i am. the template i started with had each surface on it's own layer, and not a full 1024x1024 image. i took all those and put them on 1 layer, so all of the panel lines are on the same now. in the pick i posted here before they were not on 1 layer.
i also have a dummy layer mimmicing the panel lines, but softened / blurred to a pixel each side. this is per kweassa's suggestion, right now i keep it invisible, but i plan on playing with that once the paint is started
i am going to tackle the wings tonight, and as i go i am tweaking the edges of the panel lines. rigt now there are 3 or 4 that are just off a pixel or 2. maybe 2-3 more nights of edge work, and im ready to start all the little warning signs and stuff, and the squadron markings.
then all that's left is actual "paint" ! ; )
you still want what i have?
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yea, the viewer really needs a view angle silder so it doesn't distort the model.
Looking good!
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Originally posted by Krusty
Were you ever going to e-mail me this template? :P
mark(at)nakatomitower.com
it has been sent.
what you think?
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Ugh sorry JB. Didn't mean to bug you for it then not check my mail. Been busy 4 days in a row (and today's hectic as hell). Might be able to check it out tonight.
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LOL not a problem. my sister graduates college this weekend (magna cum laude or however you speel it LOL) so family in town, and probably wont be on PC all weekend.
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:( wheres my copy at :p
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
:( wheres my copy at :p
i sent it to both of you in the same email, the one you put in this thread.
there was a FWD also, because i forgot to attach it first time LMAO
did you not recieve it?
checked email on mail2web, and not "returned mail", so it went through krusty got it, krusty, was sky in the address of the original message?
krusty, it is paint shop pro 8
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Originally posted by JB73
i sent it to both of you in the same email, the one you put in this thread.
there was a FWD also, because i forgot to attach it first time LMAO
did you not recieve it?
checked email on mail2web, and not "returned mail", so it went through krusty got it, krusty, was sky in the address of the original message?
krusty, it is paint shop pro 8
hey can i get a copy also?
what programs do you use? i got Photoshop 7.. will that work?
thanks
navajo24
co@uknightedstates.net