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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on May 09, 2005, 12:51:52 PM
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Damn... one more thing that we won't be able to do.
http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/internet/05/04/internet.hunting.ap/?section=cnn_tech
Oh... and before you start the California bashing, Congress is moving on it also.
http://www.internetnews.com/bus-news/article.php/3497821
Yes, it's real (http://live-shot.com).
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Which is the 2nd amendment thingy again?
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A tool to avoid having our own version of Kristallnacht.
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"We don't think Californians should be able to hunt sitting at their computers at home," said Steve Martarano, a spokesman for the state Department of Fish and Game.
A bill passed by the state Senate two weeks ago would prohibit use of computer-assisted hunting sites and ban the import or export of any animal killed using computer-assisted hunting. The measure now moves to the state Assembly.
ROFL!! Brilliant!!
Dammo.. we can set up remote firing stations at key points throughout the world.. allow taxpayers to log onto 'plugaterrorist.org' and wallah! we can...
BRING THE TROOPS HOME!!
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Whats the bad thing with that? its a good thing.
Thats just stupid to allow people to "hunt" over the net.
They should stick to games.
Disabled people screaming for their rights to hunt, now thats amusing, even if their disability isn't (disability isn't a reason not to laugh at ones opinion).
I can hardly call it hunting to point & click through the internet... even the gun platform is fixed.
Even so, most of the disabled people CAN do the same. If they really want to go hunting that badly, why not get a buddy to help them and go sit to middle of nowhere, waiting for an animal to go cross by and shoot it. They can do that.
Overall this way of "hunting" as target shooting, in which there are more approriate targets than live animals.
oh yeah.. the meaning of hunting:
hunt ( P ) Pronunciation Key (hnt)
v. hunt·ed, hunt·ing, hunts
v. tr.
To pursue (game) for food or sport.
To search through (an area) for prey: hunted the ridges.
To make use of (hounds, for example) in pursuing game.
To pursue intensively so as to capture or kill: hunted down the escaped convict.
To seek out; search for.
To drive out forcibly, especially by harassing; chase away: hunted the newcomers out of town.
Not very sitting sport, is it?
It doesn't either sound like connected to the 2nd amendment, because isn't it something about the inviduals right to bear arms?
I didn't know the mouse was a weapon or covered by the 2nd amendment.
Or how is it possible for an invidual to defend himself, his property or the country's libery, with a remote controlled weapon, which sits middle of nowhere with a purpose to shoot animals.
Leave remote controlled toys for the military, they got better use for it than to shoot animals as a hobby.. and if they do, AT LEAST they do it by actually hunting. Their toys are quite mobile compared to this fixed remote "hunting" toy.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
A tool to avoid having our own version of Kristallnacht.
I thought the strong influence of the insurance indusry was supposed to do that
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Thanks Sandman for the Link.
And just when the grotesquely obese were no longer going to have to worry about the tree stand collapsing again...
Man is it me or are we becoming too bone idle for words? When we are so lazy we can't even be bothered to engage in leisure pursuits for real, you know the culture has just gotten decadent.
- SEAGOON
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I see no erosion in the 2nd amendment witgh this law however stupid it may be.
This outlaws hunting by electronic proxy, it does not say you cannot own any certian type of firearm. It regulates hunting and this has been in the power of government to do so since the beginning.
The law seems stupid to me because laws should remedy some percieved problem. If this is the most important problem these states have, then our problems do not seem so bad after all.
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It's just a game law.
I'm sure they'll let you OWN a computer aimed and operated firearm. You just can't legally take game animals with it.
It's no different really than the laws in about every state that say guns used on deer must be centerfire cartridges >.22 cal.
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I agree, I dont see this as an erosion of the second amendment.
I dont believe that point and click with a mouse is hunting in any sense of the word.
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amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.
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How much different is that from a tree stand and a scoped rifle :) Or one of the fenced in hunting ranges where the game is practically domesticated?
Admittedly never been much of a hunter, but I can see the sport in actually tracking and taking the game in the wild. Maybe it is far more exciting than I give it credit, but a stand or hunting ranch seem a bit to point and click to me.
Charon
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Originally posted by Airhead
amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.
If some deer destroys a building with a few hunded people inside, I'd be all for drone killing of his little deer friends.
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the arizona border would be a good place to set up remote firing stations, no?
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Originally posted by Airhead
amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.
Well at least your CPID fits you right ;-)
You gotta be kidding me.
This has no bearing on the 2nd Amedment. It's absolutely rediculous beyond stupid to allow such a moronic lazy arsed thing to let happen.
You just can't get any lazier then this. Not only that but can you imagine the accidents that can evolve from such a pathedic idea?
If you can't get your butt out into the woods and do it yourself on the spot you have no justification to hunt at all. Hunting is about more then firing on an animal, it's called sporting.
Besides this news is nothing new it's several months old.
Personally I hope they make it a felony across the nation. This will make it illegal to ever own a gun again. Felons can not hold, own or fire a firearm or any other weapon.
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FT_Animal, why not apply that same standard to flying? Flyign a simulator is so 'pathedic' (as you put it) compared to the real thing, perhaps that should be outlawed as well?
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Originally posted by Torque
the arizona border would be a good place to set up remote firing stations, no?
now that would be good.
"hunting"? but you get no recoil, no noise, no smoke,and you don't get to gut the deer and drag it out of the woods, what fun is that?
i do most of my "hunting" at the super mkt....BAMM, i'll take that steak
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Originally posted by FT_Animal
If you can't get your butt out into the woods and do it yourself on the spot you have no justification to hunt at all. Hunting is about more then firing on an animal, it's called sporting.
I see this technology as finally giving disabled people, who otherwise can't get thier butts in the woods, a chance to enjoy hunting too.
What if we allowed this technology on pests like gophers instead of big game animals like bears? Would that be OK, or do you hate disabled people so much you don't want them shooting rodents even?
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Originally posted by Airhead
I see this technology as finally giving disabled people, who otherwise can't get thier butts in the woods, a chance to enjoy hunting too.
there is a reason they are called disabled.
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lol, I think I will hire some guy to go out and shoot a lion for me and send me a picture of "what I got" hehe
shamus
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There are Hunting Orgs that will help a disabled person into the feild and hold the firearm if neccessary while the disabled person pulls a finger, bites a switch or wiggles a toe to toggel the trigger mechanism.
So Airhead are you attempting to label FT_Animal a spigot or sumptin with your impassioned emotional plea to the jury? I guess next every farmer in the U.S. will have to put in wheel chair access to their pastures and crop feilds so the disabled can have equal access to hunt........................t he "hate","bigot", or "racist" words, fantastic verbal switchs to control dialog and people. Like littel bags of burning stuff no one wants to get near or stomp on.......any kind of an answer is a lose lose for the target.
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bustr, once we legislate against segments of our population we suffer as a society. Nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it say "the right of the able bodied," it says "we the people."
Think about that.
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The disabled can keep and bare arms. Nowhere in the constitution does it say they can hunt. Otherwise the Pacific Crest Trail wouldhave to be handicap accessable.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
I see no erosion in the 2nd amendment witgh this law however stupid it may be.
True enough, but it's a good hook. ;)
I must say, Airhead makes a fine wingman. :D
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The disabled can keep and bare arms. Nowhere in the constitution does it say they can hunt. Otherwise the Pacific Crest Trail wouldhave to be handicap accessable.
What he said:aok
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Originally posted by Airhead
amazing that some of you here are appaled at this, yet you're all for drone aircraft killing terrorists.
This comment is so asinine, I can't believe I'm responding to it:confused:
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Originally posted by Chairboy
FT_Animal, why not apply that same standard to flying? Flyign a simulator is so 'pathedic' (as you put it) compared to the real thing, perhaps that should be outlawed as well?
Yup lotta thought behind that response. I can tell.
You actually want me to reply to this, or would you like to think about it for a while?
They are two entirely different spectrums. But I'll let you figure it out.
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Originally posted by Airhead
I see this technology as finally giving disabled people, who otherwise can't get thier butts in the woods, a chance to enjoy hunting too.
What if we allowed this technology on pests like gophers instead of big game animals like bears? Would that be OK, or do you hate disabled people so much you don't want them shooting rodents even?
LOL, pleaze, either you're trolling for as stupid a response as I just got, or you ned to get off the drugs.
Point to me where I mentioned ANYTHING about disabled, or hate for that matter. Don't stream words into my mouth, I'm not as stupid as you wish.
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Originally posted by Airhead
bustr, once we legislate against segments of our population we suffer as a society. Nowhere in the 2nd amendment does it say "the right of the able bodied," it says "we the people."
Think about that.
lululululul,.. blahlalalalalalala.
Do you think about what you type? Have you considered seeking help for your dementia>?
We suffer as a society for allowing crapola stuff like this to even be considered.
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Why not just mount a motion detector on it so it fires as soon as ANYTHING steps in front of it?
I don't know why I even bother responding to these post, other then for shere ammusement.
I've heard rotting fungus on the bottum of a bejo ditch burp more intelligence then some in this thread.
But hey who am I ?
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pure stupidity
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I have an Uncle who's confined to a wheelchair...he was wounded in Korea, protecting America...and he's always waiting for us when we return from a hunting trip, and he'll sit, petting a dead gopher, as we relay tales of the day's hunt...and, when we get to the parts of the story where we shoot the gophers, he strokes the dead gopher faster and faster...and he's said, over and over again, how he'd like to shoot gophers with us, but he can't because of his wheelchair...and even though we give him an occasional gopher (he names them even- his last one is named Soggy) it's just not the same.
He saw Internet hunting as his last chance to shoot gophers, and now- thanks to liberal gun control advocates- his hopes are dashed.
I don't have the heart to tell him his dreams are over- I'm going to e-mail Hillary Clinton, Jane Fonda and Barbera Boxer and ask them to to dash this old man's dreams. I can't destroy Uncle Buck.
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the second has nothing to do with hunting game animals.
lazs
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So whats that mean, I cant play a multiplayer deer hunting PFS game over the net without risking the Game Warden to write me a tcket?
Them tree hugging hippies are way crazy. I bet if you take away their tofu and that crap they eat and shove them out in the wilderness with a gun, they will change their views (or be too stupid and die of starvation.)
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to me, the purpose of hunting is a study in survival, little more, nor should it be.
when the poo hits the fan the idiots who learn to hunt to survive via the internet are pretty much dead from the starting box. so at least we got that going for us.
its friggink moronical.
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Originally posted by Torque
the arizona border would be a good place to set up remote firing stations, no?
Which side of the border?
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Originally posted by Sandman
True enough, but it's a good hook. ;)
Ooooooooo he gave it away, he gave it away! :p
(http://web.ivenue.com/rrceramics/images/GareTrolltrio.jpg)
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Wow Seagoon you got a pick of Nash,MT,and sandman!
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Yup, I also have secret pictures of the REAL Aces High Convention stashed away just in case of trouble. But I'll let you see one of 'em. Here they are demo-ing the newest flight engine...
(http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/g_9483882/Yahoo!+Photo+Album/Warfieldsub1.jpg?grI6lgCBpbXBA0BB)
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The disabled in america seem to be hunting and shooting quite well without our pity party or our fishing hooks................
http://www.badf.org/DisabledHunters.html
http://www.uffdaclub.com
http://www.dhna.org
http://www.pcba-inc.org
http://www.nrahq.org/compete/disabled.asp