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Title: Ticks
Post by: SunTracker on May 10, 2005, 05:31:18 AM
I did a 14 mile hike friday afternoon.  Came home, took a shower and went to sleep. When I woke up, I found a tick on my back.  I pulled it out with some tweezers as best as I could, and I think I got its jaws out of me.

Just a few minutes ago, I found another tick on me.  I think I picked this one up while gardening.  It had some blood in it already.  Due to its location , I dont think I got the mouthparts out when I pulled it out.  According to some websites, lyme disease is very rare in Kentucky.  So I think I will be ok.

I take two/three showers a day.  Apparently ticks arent bothered by this.  Any tips for avoiding ticks?
Title: Ticks
Post by: deSelys on May 10, 2005, 05:34:55 AM
If your skin takes a red tint around the bitten spot, ask your doctor if he thinks a Lyme test necessary. Lyme is harmless is caught early.

Beware of infection if you weren't able to remove the jaws.
Title: Ticks
Post by: gunnss on May 10, 2005, 05:41:31 AM
Blouse your boots, get some nasty Citronella bug repllent and use it where the joints of your clothe meet, and stay away from brush, tall grass,  and hanging tree branches as much as you can......

Gunns
Title: Re: Ticks
Post by: myelo on May 10, 2005, 06:01:37 AM
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Originally posted by SunTracker According to some websites, lyme disease is very rare in Kentucky.


Yeah it's Rocky Mountain spotted fever and ehrlichiosis you need to be worrying about. :)

Southestern ticks laugh at citronella. Get something with DEET.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Curval on May 10, 2005, 06:11:34 AM
Ticks are disgusting things.

I had never seen one until I noticed something on my dog's leg a few years back.  It was dark grey and what I initially thought to be a skin tag or something.  I was contemplating a vet trip to have it removed when I thought I saw movement.  A close inspection revealed small legs which would move if the thing was disturbed.  I still didn't know what it was so I called the vet who told me it was a tick.

I lit a match, blew it out and then stuck the still hot match-head to the tick's back.  It let go and I was able to pull it off with ease.

It gave me the heeby jeebes though...foul creature.
Title: Re: Ticks
Post by: BlkKnit on May 10, 2005, 06:32:41 AM
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Originally posted by SunTracker
I take two/three showers a day.  Apparently ticks arent bothered by this.  Any tips for avoiding ticks?


hehe....this s not gonna deter them...it will invite them, why do ya think animals roll in the dirt?

Seriously though, them little boogers really cause me problems when they get ahold of me.
Title: Ticks
Post by: thrila on May 10, 2005, 06:33:36 AM
I'm sure my mum used to cover them in petroleum jelly and they would fall off.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Mickey1992 on May 10, 2005, 07:18:25 AM
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Originally posted by thrila
I'm sure my mum used to cover them in petroleum jelly and they would fall off.


Yup.  Coat it in Vasoline and it will suffocate and let go to get away.  Get one of those little squeeze bottles that women carry in their purses.  It is a lot easier than trying to chase the dog/cat with a match.  :D
Title: Ticks
Post by: stantond on May 10, 2005, 07:31:57 AM
Avoid locations tick are found.  These are tall grassy fields and areas with tall grass, low plant limbs, and trails.  Ticks don't jump.  You collect them from plants that animals with ticks have touched.

I have never had any success with tick removal other than tweezers.  They make some specialized tweezers for tick removal but I have always used standard flat ones.  The notion to use a 'hot match' to make the tick loosen its bite just burns you.  I never tried the petroleum jelly.  I have to wonder how long you need to wait for the tick to let go?

Removing the tick promptly is important to prevent any disease it may carry.  If you know you are going into 'tick country' wear light colored clothing so a tick can be easily spotted.  DEET works as a tick repellent.  Kids and dogs seem to collect the most ticks if they are with you.



Regards,

Malta
Title: Ticks
Post by: Curval on May 10, 2005, 07:36:25 AM
The match thing worked like a charm for me.

Not sure how you would manage to burn yourself doing it, but maybe I have good hand/eye co-ordination.

As to chasing around the dog with a match...why would anyone who has a dog chase it around?  You simply say "Come here" and if the dog is trained properly it will do so.  

I don't have cats.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Toad on May 10, 2005, 08:03:08 AM
Just a note on the dogs. Swim them in a pond first thing you won't collect many, if any, ticks.

They don't seem to like latching on to wet dogs.

I get lots of 'em. 8 yesterday got all but 2 before they latched. Maybe I oughta dive in the pond first too..............
Title: Ticks
Post by: Masherbrum on May 10, 2005, 08:06:45 AM
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Originally posted by Curval
The match thing worked like a charm for me.

Not sure how you would manage to burn yourself doing it, but maybe I have good hand/eye co-ordination.

As to chasing around the dog with a match...why would anyone who has a dog chase it around?  You simply say "Come here" and if the dog is trained properly it will do so.  

I don't have cats.


It's all them Bermuda Cat-like Reflexes :)

Karaya
Title: Ticks
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 10, 2005, 08:21:14 AM
LOL they laugh at Citronella up here in the northeast too.

Deet is the way to go. and dont be shy with it.

For animals,inasamuch as our dog and  our cats in particular spend a great deal of their time outdoors we use that stuff you squirt between the dogs/cats shoulderblades once a month. so long as we've  remembered to use it, it hasnt let us down yet.

Son got Lyme about 6 years ago. He had been complaining of some joint pain so wife took him to the Doc and when asked she remembered pullling a tick off his back a few weeks before hand
Hadta take a whole bottle of what can best be discribed as horse pills. Things are huge and gotta cut them up to take them.

Remember Lyme doesnt always give that telltale bullseye ring. So be aware of the symptoms

 CDC Lyme Disease (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvbid/lyme/index.htm)
Title: Ticks
Post by: Jackal1 on May 10, 2005, 10:54:47 AM
Ticks are attracted to aftershave, cologne, perfumed soap , etc.
  Usualy , in my area, bow season falls right in prime tick season ,so you can expect them, especialy in hard oak areas.
  You can do a lot of what has been suggested so far as prevention, but if you are in the woods enough you are still going to pick up a few here and there.
  Best thing I can tell ya, other than the old match trick, is to go to an army surplus and grab you a few bottles of Vietnam era issue bug repellant. A small drop of this stuff on the tick will send em for the hills. Also works great on leechs.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Siaf__csf on May 10, 2005, 10:58:09 AM
Suffocating the tick with vaseline is risky because when the tick starts to suffocate it may panic and vomit in the wound before letting go.

Vomiting gives the maximum chance to catch any disease the tick might be carrying.

Better to use tweezers.
Title: Ticks
Post by: JB73 on May 10, 2005, 11:06:15 AM
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Originally posted by Toad
I get lots of 'em. 8 yesterday got all but 2 before they latched. Maybe I oughta dive in the pond first too..............
GAAA...

where are you going that you get 8 ticks in 1 day!??!?!

i have never had one in my life

i have seen them up north in michigan UP, but never has one gotten on me.


what kind of cavemen, outdoorsy people are you all that tick checking is a regular occurance? ; )


vomiting ticks... that and flying chlamydia in one week, now i have heard it all.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Pongo on May 10, 2005, 11:18:06 AM
Got lymes in the army before anyone here really knew what it was. The epidermiologist just said it was a seasonal skin problem..lol this was in 1985.
The sores got huge and they were all over my shoulders, so the 70-80 pound rucks we were humping just tore them all open and my tee shirts were basically bandages.
My buddies had to put the ointment on my back part and they really loved that. I was really worried that I would get it on my face.
At the time never made the connection with the tick I had the week befor. I still have the scar on my belly from removing the tick with tweezers and hot pins and every other dam thing.

Never even left the Recce course I was on. I probably attributed the symptoms to the 7 day a week bag drive I was on for 8 weeks.
Title: Re: Ticks
Post by: T0J0 on May 10, 2005, 11:35:26 AM
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Originally posted by SunTracker
, I found a tick on my back.  I pulled it out with some tweezers as best as I could, and I think I got its jaws out of me.
 


I always have known you liberals eat your own...Now you have first hand experience..  !
Title: Ticks
Post by: WhiteHawk on May 10, 2005, 11:50:53 AM
not sure about prventing ticks from latching on, but a good method of removal is to heat up some tweezers red hot, and get the tick as close to the head as possible.  It usually lets go right away.  The trick is not to squeeze the body because that is how you get the diseases. by squeezeing the body, the juises go through thier mouth into your blood.  I usually soak the area in alcohol before i remove it, but i dont know if that helps but it cant hurt.
  If you have one in a 'hard to reach' area, it is better to go to a doctor or nurse to have it removed, just to be safe.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Seagoon on May 10, 2005, 12:08:10 PM
Hi SunTracker,

I once picked up close to a dozen in one day of playing in a field in Nova Scotia.

The advice regarding covering yourself in DEET is good. I use Deep Woods Off (the unscented version) and that works very well. DEET can also be used for getting them off. Spray the little buggers with it in situ and they'll let go in a jiffy, no head, no squeezing, no rumaging for the tweezers.

As far as advice for avoiding them. Avoid leaf piles and walking through standing grass above ankle height. When you come in from areas they are likely to be, take off your outer clothing and then check that first (that's where they start the climb) also, run your hand through your hair every now and then while you are outside (course for some of us, that becomes less time consuming every year).

- SEAGOON
Title: Ticks
Post by: Toad on May 10, 2005, 12:47:50 PM
I hiked the perimeter and other interesting parts of 80 acres I'm looking at buying. The dogs think the place we have now is too small and too "suburbia" to have fun. I agree.

I went through some streambeds; I probably got most of them in there as I went through the brush.
Title: Ticks
Post by: SunTracker on May 10, 2005, 12:54:54 PM
Thanks for the advice guys.  The tick I had on my back was a tough one.  I used about 10 matches to try to get him off, and he wouldnt budge.  Then I sprayed him with Deep Woods OFF (with DEET), even after 15 minutes he wouldnt come out.  Finally I had to drive to walmarts and buy some tweezers.
Title: Ticks
Post by: AWMac on May 10, 2005, 01:08:04 PM
This is from the CDC on ticks.


Embedded ticks should be removed using fine-tipped tweezers. DO NOT use petroleum jelly, a hot match, nail polish, or other products. Grasp the tick firmly and as closely to the skin as possible. With a steady motion, pull the tick's body away from the skin. The tick's mouthparts may remain in the skin, but do not be alarmed. The bacteria that cause Lyme disease are contained in the tick's midgut or salivary glands. Cleanse the area with an antiseptic.


Mac
Title: Ticks
Post by: Seagoon on May 10, 2005, 02:30:54 PM
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Originally posted by SunTracker
Thanks for the advice guys.  The tick I had on my back was a tough one.  I used about 10 matches to try to get him off, and he wouldnt budge.  Then I sprayed him with Deep Woods OFF (with DEET), even after 15 minutes he wouldnt come out.  Finally I had to drive to walmarts and buy some tweezers.


Suntracker,

You done killed him with the matches. Of course he isn't going to let go after that.

:D

- SEAGOON
Title: Ticks
Post by: slimm50 on May 10, 2005, 02:43:25 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
The match thing worked like a charm for me.

Not sure how you would manage to burn yourself doing it, but maybe I have good hand/eye co-ordination.

As to chasing around the dog with a match...why would anyone who has a dog chase it around?  You simply say "Come here" and if the dog is trained properly it will do so.  

I don't have cats.

Problem with burning 'em off is they regurgitate under your skin, or even directly into your bloodstream, before letting go, if they let go. Usually I can simply pull 'em off with tweezers. Just be sure you grasp 'em as far forward as you can so ya don't pull 'em in half. The petroleum jelly thing ought to work, also.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Tumor on May 10, 2005, 02:53:05 PM
Geez you bunch of panzies!!! :D   Between Coon-hunting, trudging miles through pasture/woods to get to a sweet fishing spot and other such outdoor activity... I lost count of how many Ticks I pulled off me before I was 10!

Just yank'em off and don't worry about it.  If you hear there's been a case of Lyme locally, well of course watch for symptoms.

Chiggers are far more troublesome!! Only because nothing itches like a chigger bite... bump into some "chigger weed" and you'll wish for lyme disease!
Title: Ticks
Post by: slimm50 on May 10, 2005, 03:02:59 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Geez you bunch of panzies!!! :D   Between Coon-hunting, trudging miles through pasture/woods to get to a sweet fishing spot and other such outdoor activity... I lost count of how many Ticks I pulled off me before I was 10!

Just yank'em off and don't worry about it.  If you hear there's been a case of Lyme locally, well of course watch for symptoms.

Chiggers are far more troublesome!! Only because nothing itches like a chigger bite... bump into some "chigger weed" and you'll wish for lyme disease!

Heheheh, yer right Tumor. Couple of years ago our scout troop went to summer camp in north arkansas. Never have I seen so many ticks in a two week period. We have a very large troop (about 60 boys went with us that year). As you can imagine, at first there were a lot of squeemish, cry-baby types who thought they were gonna die because the got a couple of ticks on 'em. By the end of the campout though, even they were completely oblivious to them, pulling them off as naturally as breathing. Needless to say, there were a lot of funny tick stories for their parents when they got home.:lol
Title: Ticks
Post by: Tumor on May 10, 2005, 04:06:25 PM
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Originally posted by slimm50
Heheheh, yer right Tumor. Couple of years ago our scout troop went to summer camp in north arkansas. Never have I seen so many ticks in a two week period. We have a very large troop (about 60 boys went with us that year). As you can imagine, at first there were a lot of squeemish, cry-baby types who thought they were gonna die because the got a couple of ticks on 'em. By the end of the campout though, even they were completely oblivious to them, pulling them off as naturally as breathing. Needless to say, there were a lot of funny tick stories for their parents when they got home.:lol


Did you know I was referring to my youth in Arkansas?... or is it just that it's the tick capital of the USofA? lol
Title: Ticks
Post by: slimm50 on May 10, 2005, 04:30:58 PM
lol, no I didn't know. But I'm not surprised.. I think it must be the tick capitol of the world.
Title: Ticks
Post by: rpm on May 10, 2005, 05:23:44 PM
Learned this little trick while working with a surveyor. Get a dog flea/tick collar with the easy detachable clip. Put one around each ankle before treking off into the deep grass. Works like a charm. You can keep them in a ziplock bag for later use.

On a related note. My brother in law told me about a buddy of his that he was working a power plant rebuild with in West Virginia. They found a bar after work and his buddy managed to talk one of the local girls into a make out session in the parking lot. After a little oral exploration in the dark he was surprised to find the girl had 3 nipples. The suspense was too much, he had to get a look at that 3rd nipple he was suckling on, having never seen such before in his life. He flipped on the dome light to discover the biggest brown tick he had ever seen. True story.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Goth on May 10, 2005, 05:25:48 PM
double post t hat needs to be deleted
Title: Ticks
Post by: Goth on May 10, 2005, 05:26:23 PM
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Originally posted by Curval
Ticks are disgusting things.


SPOON!

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Title: Ticks
Post by: Tumor on May 10, 2005, 05:26:39 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
He flipped on the dome light to discover the biggest brown tick he had ever seen. True story.


Thanks... I many never look at a boobie the same way again! :mad:
Title: Ticks
Post by: Raubvogel on May 10, 2005, 07:07:58 PM
Find the bug repellant with the highest % of DEET you can find. I like the stuff that makes your skin tingle when you put it on :) Apply liberally.
Title: Ticks
Post by: rpm on May 10, 2005, 07:17:19 PM
You might want to do some research on DEET before you go slathering it on. It has caused some people to die instantly.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Raubvogel on May 10, 2005, 07:42:00 PM
Maybe they were really insect-like aliens from outer space occupying human bodies.
Title: Ticks
Post by: YUCCA on May 10, 2005, 07:47:04 PM
I always burn hte bastards out with a match
Title: Ticks
Post by: stantond on May 10, 2005, 09:52:41 PM
I was killed instantly by DEET once.



I got better.



Regards,

Malta
Title: Ticks
Post by: Sandman on May 10, 2005, 11:49:03 PM
When I was twelve, we went to visit relatives in Arkansas. I woke up one morning and found one on Mr. Happy, right around the frenulum.

Imagine for a moment. You're twelve years old. You've got a tick on your Johnson and the only thing to do is show it to Mom.

Quite the dilemma... I tell ya.
Title: Ticks
Post by: rpm on May 10, 2005, 11:53:42 PM
Well, you were in Arkansas...
Title: Ticks
Post by: Seagoon on May 11, 2005, 12:06:23 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
On a related note. My brother in law told me about a buddy of his that he was working a power plant rebuild with in West Virginia. They found a bar after work and his buddy managed to talk one of the local girls into a make out session in the parking lot. After a little oral exploration in the dark he was surprised to find the girl had 3 nipples. The suspense was too much, he had to get a look at that 3rd nipple he was suckling on, having never seen such before in his life. He flipped on the dome light to discover the biggest brown tick he had ever seen. True story.


:eek:

Thanks RPM, now I have Post Traumatic Post Disorder (PTPD). Well time to skip lunch and probably nookie for several weeks...

The horror... the horror...

Seagoon
Title: Ticks
Post by: Curval on May 11, 2005, 12:38:22 PM
That is disgusting rpm.  Did the guy hurl?
Title: Ticks
Post by: lasersailor184 on May 11, 2005, 12:47:45 PM
DO NOT BURN THE TICK!  DO NOT PUT A MATCH TO IT!  DO NOT HEAT UP THE TWEEZERS!


The heat from this will cause the tick to vomit into you.


The best thing to do is to pull it off with tweezers, and put it imbetween two pieces of tape.


After that you can do whatever you like to the little ****er.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Estes on May 11, 2005, 04:56:19 PM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
:eek:

Thanks RPM, now I have Post Traumatic Post Disorder (PTPD). Well time to skip lunch and probably nookie for several weeks...

The horror... the horror...

Seagoon


I can't last two days without nookie.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2005, 05:08:14 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
When I was twelve, we went to visit relatives in Arkansas. I woke up one morning and found one on Mr. Happy, right around the frenulum.

Imagine for a moment. You're twelve years old. You've got a tick on your Johnson and the only thing to do is show it to Mom.

Quite the dilemma... I tell ya.


Nothing tops having to yank one out of your butthole.
Title: Ticks
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2005, 05:11:30 PM
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Originally posted by lasersailor184 [/B]

DO NOT BURN THE TICK!  DO NOT PUT A MATCH TO IT!  DO NOT HEAT UP THE TWEEZERS!

The heat from this will cause the tick to vomit into you.


So.. it's YOUR blood lol


The best thing to do is to pull it off with tweezers, and put it imbetween two pieces of tape.


Too much trouble... kill'em by wrestling the tick on to your thumbnail, then use your other thumbnail to crush it's head.  Quick and easy!  I am a proffessional
Title: Ticks
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 11, 2005, 05:24:00 PM
OOh just pull the damn things off!

Grab them as close to the head as you can and with a steady pressure pull em out.
Unless theyve been there fore a few days and had a chance to really burrow in at which point they will have swelled up to the size of a small marble  they pull out pretty easy and usually take a really small chunk of flesh with em.

Then just keep an eye out for symptoms
Title: Ticks
Post by: Sandman on May 11, 2005, 09:17:24 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Nothing tops having to yank one out of your butthole.


Okay... You're right. :)
Title: Ticks
Post by: Shuckins on May 11, 2005, 09:32:59 PM
When you come from a day afield in tick country, pour a cup of bleach in your bath water.  That seems to deter the little buggers...and redbugs as well.

By the way...why do redbugs always head straight for your apple?
Title: Ticks
Post by: Kweassa on May 11, 2005, 10:05:36 PM
The worst thing about ticks is their seemingly unlimited ability to bloat out indefinately as they suck blood.

 A tick the size of a fingernail might grow as large as the size half your palm..

 Blechhh!! Disgusting things...
Title: Ticks
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2005, 10:28:05 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman
Okay... You're right. :)


Ok, having thought it over... I'm wrong.  Having Mom do it would be worse.
Title: Ticks
Post by: JB73 on May 11, 2005, 10:40:23 PM
ok you ALL are some sick bastards EWWWWWWW

rectums, vomiting tics, frenulum's,


WTF is wrong with all of you? in 32 years on this planet, mostly in Wisconsin and upper michigan, with travles to all but 7 states, and hiking in some of those states i have never encountered 1 single tic on my person.

get a cleaner lifestyle people LOL

oh and sorry, im not up on my obscure references to areas of my anamoty... WTF is the "frenulum"??@?!?!?!?!
Title: Ticks
Post by: Sox62 on May 12, 2005, 01:58:19 AM
I remember pulling several DOZEN off of my namesake and avatar's  body and ears   after she was dumped out of a pick-up truck as a puppy at Dale Hollow Lake seven years ago.