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Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Krusher on May 10, 2005, 08:49:16 AM

Its very nice to know that the only thing separating the EU from the return of Nazis is the EU constitution!


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Margot Wallstrom, a Swede and the commissioner who must sell the draft constitution to voters, argued that politicians who resisted pooling national sovereignty risked a return to Nazi horrors of the 1930s and 1940s.

Mrs Wallstrom, vice-president of the commission for institutional relations and communications, was speaking in the former Jewish ghetto of Terezin in the Czech Republic.

She blamed the Second World War on "nationalistic pride and greed, and … international rivalry for wealth and power". The EU had replaced such rivalry with an historic agreement to share national sovereignty.

Her fellow commissioners also issued a joint declaration, stating that EU citizens should pay tribute to the dead of the Second World War by voting Yes to the draft constitution for Europe.

The commissioners also gave the EU sole credit for ending the Cold War, making no mention of the role of Nato and the United States.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: lazs2 on May 10, 2005, 09:01:04 AM

what do the swedes care... the nazis never hurt them.

lazs

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Airhead on May 10, 2005, 09:21:18 AM

"The commissioners also gave the EU sole credit for ending the Cold War, making no mention of the role of Nato and the United States."


Anti-Americanism is the heart and soul of what will unify the EU- we read it in the papers, we see it on TV but, most of all, we read it right here on the Internet.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Dowding on May 10, 2005, 10:11:45 AM

Thanks for the link to the article and thanks to the article for interpreting her words without giving us the opportunity to do it ourselves.

By the way, she says no such thing as "we will see another holocaust if you don't vote for the constitution". I've just read the whole speech and it never draws that conclusion.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: straffo on May 10, 2005, 10:28:56 AM

Thank for the source !


I guess it's "freerepublic.com" again ?

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Dowding on May 10, 2005, 10:41:39 AM

Just as bad - the Daily Telegraph.

"Tory Rag of the Year 1850 -..."

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: straffo on May 10, 2005, 11:24:12 AM

Good old Rupert  is still alive and kicking ... :p

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Krusher on May 10, 2005, 11:24:25 AM

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Originally posted by straffo
Thank for the source !


I guess it's "freerepublic.com" again ?

the telegraph.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Fishu on May 10, 2005, 11:41:14 AM

a swede talking about nazis? pfft... they were  trade partner with the nazis, what would they know about them.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: bustr on May 10, 2005, 12:55:31 PM

Heck if you really want to get rabbid, Bush's grandfather had a business deal with Germany supplying material up almost till 42 when the U.S. government slapped him with a cease and desist or be prosicuted for aiding and abetting the enemy. I suspect this is the root of the Geroge W. Hitler jokes.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Yeager on May 10, 2005, 01:43:08 PM

Western Europe would have been better served under soviet rule.  Perhaps they would be a bit more bearable today.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: J_A_B on May 10, 2005, 01:49:15 PM

"Heck if you really want to get rabbid, Bush's grandfather had a business deal with Germany supplying material up almost till 42 "


As a matter of historcial record, we weren't at war with Germany almost until '42, either.



J_A_B

Title: Re: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Tumor on May 10, 2005, 02:00:00 PM

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Originally posted by Krusher
Its very nice to know that the only thing separating the EU from the return of Nazis is the EU constitution!

EUROLOIDHATER

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Pooh21 on May 10, 2005, 02:01:30 PM

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Originally posted by Yeager
Western Europe would have been better served under soviet rule.  Perhaps they would be a bit more bearable today.

nah, they'd hate us then for not saving their sorry butts.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Fishu on May 10, 2005, 02:10:04 PM

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Originally posted by J_A_B
As a matter of historcial record, we weren't at war with Germany almost until '42, either.

Just makes it interesting that the USA was in trade embargo with the japanese, but not with the germans.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: Torque on May 10, 2005, 04:29:51 PM

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Originally posted by J_A_B
"Heck if you really want to get rabbid, Bush's grandfather had a business deal with Germany supplying material up almost till 42 "


As a matter of historcial record, we weren't at war with Germany almost until '42, either.



J_A_B

err...it was Oct '42, your neighbour was at war with germany since '39. lost a few family members during '39-'41.

lets not forget ibm counting the jews.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: NUKE on May 10, 2005, 04:37:54 PM

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Originally posted by bustr
Heck if you really want to get rabbid, Bush's grandfather had a business deal with Germany supplying material up almost till 42 when the U.S. government slapped him with a cease and desist or be prosicuted for aiding and abetting the enemy. I suspect this is the root of the Geroge W. Hitler jokes.

So did a lot of people, including Henry Ford.

Title: Vote for the EU Constitution or else
Post by: NUKE on May 10, 2005, 10:23:03 PM

It's funny what money will do to people.