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Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: BTAirsol on May 11, 2005, 11:29:06 AM
I wonder who was flying the sensena attacking out HQ?
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: JB73 on May 11, 2005, 11:32:52 AM
bah dont bother with the 163's he doesn't carry enough ord to kill dar
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Monk on May 11, 2005, 11:36:45 AM
You lost me, I babelfished ya, but this is all I got.

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Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Thrawn on May 11, 2005, 11:44:55 AM
Famous last words.

"I'll have the transponder fixed when I get back."
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: moot on May 11, 2005, 12:00:21 PM
-He's dead, Jim..
-..Quick! You take his wallet, I'll take his tricorder!
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Chairboy on May 11, 2005, 12:15:59 PM
Always an awkward moment when taking off.  

Tower: "Cessna 123 Hotel, cleared for takeoff, runway 34."
Cessna: "Cessna 123 Hotel, cleared for takeoff, runway 34."
(45 seconds later)
Tower: "Ah, Cessna 123 Hotel, not getting transponder information from you."
Cessna: (swearing inside cockpit, then over the radio) "Cessna 123 Hotel, just recycled transponder, how's that?" (when 'recycled' actually means 'turned on because he forgot'
Tower: "Positive radar contact, Cessna 123 Hotel."

Speaking completely theoretically.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Hangtime on May 11, 2005, 01:19:50 PM
Looks like kids swiped the plane from an uncontrolled small field. Clueless dolts.. lucky the Blackhawks didn't snuff 'em.

CNN is having a field day scaring the watermelon outta the uninformed public about how easy it is to swipe a cessna.

a very, very VERY bad day for general aviation thanks to media hype.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 11, 2005, 02:07:09 PM
Good to know that it looked like the goverment buildings were prepared for such a problem.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Thrawn on May 11, 2005, 03:24:39 PM
Good to know that the politicians had a system in place to protect their asses.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Maverick on May 11, 2005, 04:50:38 PM
Thrawn there ain't NO umbrella large enough to cover congress' asses........  :p
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2005, 05:27:44 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Good to know that the politicians had a system in place to protect their asses.


Wouldn't you?
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Thrawn on May 11, 2005, 05:32:06 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Wouldn't you?


Not above and beyond what my constituents have.  See that's why I'm not a politian, I'm not a mother****er.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 11, 2005, 05:51:11 PM
Curious just  how much damage a Cessna could to to either building.

And if by chance it did have say chem or biological weapons onboard. Wouldnt it have been more devistating if they shot it down with the stuff spreading to an even wider area?

And even if it wasnt wouldnt it be a greater threat to hurt or kill someone from the falling debri then if they just let it crash?
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: JB73 on May 11, 2005, 05:53:12 PM
to eb serious, if they had explosives on the plane, they could probably do the damage of oaklahoma city.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2005, 06:11:45 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Not above and beyond what my constituents have.  See that's why I'm not a politian, I'm not a mother****er.


Good grief... that's pretty much the entire country.  So, the seat of the entire government doesn't deserve a certain greater amount of protection, even given it's a proven high-threat area?  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Bald Knob Arkansas is not in need of the level of protection Washington D.C. is.

But.. it's all Booshe's fault isn't it?
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Thrawn on May 11, 2005, 06:21:33 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Good grief... that's pretty much the entire country.  So, the seat of the entire government doesn't deserve a certain greater amount of protection, even given it's a proven high-threat area?  I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but Bald Knob Arkansas is not in need of the level of protection Washington D.C. is.



I could see protecting the head of state.  But as far as legislators are concerned, nope.  In fact I think when they are sitting in Parilment or Congress they should do so in wobbly chairs over a pit of flaming magma.


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But.. it's all Booshe's fault isn't it?


A pre-emptive whine has been recorded.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: bunch on May 11, 2005, 07:12:36 PM
i would have loved to see the F-16 with a little silohette of a C-150 painted on the side just under the canopy
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Tumor on May 11, 2005, 07:23:19 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn


A pre-emptive whine has been recorded.


Oh rich.. coming from King Ameriwhiner himself :rofl
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Thrawn on May 11, 2005, 07:30:13 PM
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Originally posted by Tumor
Oh rich.. coming from King Ameriwhiner himself :rofl


I prefer God-Emperor Amerihiner.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: capt. apathy on May 11, 2005, 09:28:26 PM
all in all I'll call it a sucessful (though unplanned) test.

they evacuated the primary targets.  engaged, ID'd and escorted the threat without over-reacting and blowing the poor SOB out of the sky.

good work all the way around, would be my call.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Jackal1 on May 12, 2005, 07:31:10 AM
Yea, I`d have to say the evacuation and ground procedures went pretty well. I do , however, think 3 miles is cutting it a tad bit close. The numbnuts flying the plane needs to be counting his lucky stars.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Naso on May 12, 2005, 08:19:46 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
Curious just  how much damage a Cessna could to to either building.



See here:

(http://www.corriere.it/speciali/gallerie/pirellone/galleria/jpg/image2.jpg)

A Rockwell 112 TC on a building in Milan.

around 2 dead and half hundred wounds.

No explosives on board, naturally.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Monk on May 12, 2005, 08:39:07 AM
What was the final verdict on that, suicide?
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: BTAirsol on May 12, 2005, 09:27:04 AM
I think the real concern and us being vunerable is that a dirty bomb (Radioactive) detenated on the plane within 3 miles of our capitol is very possible. Wheather it hits on ground or in air, the wind would carry the stuff and make area inhabital.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Chairboy on May 12, 2005, 11:05:05 AM
Sure, but you can drive a TRUCK to within a few hundred feet of the capital and detonate it, and it could carry more radioactive material and more explosive to spread it then any Cessna 152, an airplane with like a 450lb useful load.  Subtract the weight of the pilot, the fuel needed, and even play around with the max gross, and it's still an order of a magnitude smaller then what a truck could carry.  This is in response to the 'dirty bomb' argument.

For the Milan pic, the Rockwell 112 has a max gross of 2,800lbs and cruise of 135 knots.  The Cessna 152 has a max gross of 1,600 and cruise of 107knots.  So the kinetic energy of the Rockwell is a little over twice that of the Cessna.  No conclusions, just a point of comparison.
Title: White house & Capitol evacuated
Post by: Fishu on May 12, 2005, 11:48:01 AM
From the news I heard they've interrogated a flight instructor and a student in the case.
Sounds like they've been on a training flight.


Drediock,

(http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/06/tampa.crash/story.tampa.plane.jpg)

Wreckage from a Cessna 172 aircraft hangs from a skyscraper in Tampa, Florida (http://archives.cnn.com/2002/US/01/06/tampa.crash/)

...didn't even demolish the office too badly.

LOL, I didn't know about this until searching for this thread:
TAMPA, Florida (CNN) -- The mother of a teen-age boy who flew a Cessna aircraft into a Tampa office building filed a $70 million wrongful death and negligence lawsuit Tuesday against the manufacturers of a drug the boy took to treat acne.
:rofl


Naso,

I think that was a bigger plane than a 152 or 172.
Wasn't it a twin turboprop which hit that building?