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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Halo on May 13, 2005, 09:51:52 PM
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The title and subtitle say it all:
The China Study by T. Colin Campbell (BenBella Books, 2005)
The Most Comprehensive Study of Nutrition Ever Conducted and the Startling Implications for Diet, Weight Loss and Long-term Health.
On P. 243 is a fascinating chart called Eat All You Want (While Getting Lots of Variety) of Any Whole, Unrefined Plant-Based Food.
He basically asserts many diseases can be prevented, alleviated, or reduced by following a plant-based diet and eliminating most animal-based food.
He includes a couple charts showing that the third leading cause of death in the United States in 2000 was Medical Care (!), with 225,400 people dying from the following: medication errors (7,400), unnecessary surgery (12,000), other preventable errors in hospitals (20,000), hospital borne infections (80,000), and adverse drug effects (106,000).
I checked a copy out from the library to read it. Now I'm going to buy a copy. Fascinating insights into a 40-year career including high levels of government and professional intricacies.
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go back to PETA troll
hehhe lol ; )
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Vegetarians are healthier, but they dont live longer than people who eat meat.
Heres things to watch out with when eating lots of plant foods:
Whole grains deplete the bodies calcium and magnesium stores. Its important to take suppliments if you eat lots of whole grains.
Some plants contain chemicals that bind with minerals. Again, its important to take a multi-mineral suppliment.
Too much omega-6 fatty acids and a lack of vitamin B-12 on a vegetarian diet.
The only proven way to live longer is to eat less. Foods that cause high insulin levels make you age faster.
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vegetarians are all gay. so they die of aids
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vegetarians don't get older - they just look older...
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man should eat meats and lots of it, it's the prime reason we're on top of the food chain and not still in the jungle.
come summer i get close to devouring 2-3 sirlion strips a week, simple luv it and will never give that up regardless.
that said i try to always buy from organic farmers, it's what they inject and feed cows these days, that is the problem. cow by-products aren't even considered to be organic anymore.
eat lots of veggie and when you die your children could mix your ashes with water and used it as pesticide.
would be interesting to see a survey on cubans, they've been doing organics for decades and have raised the ladder on sustained farmering in regards to it.
organics is the way to go, support your local farmer.
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Originally posted by bunch
vegetarians are all gay. so they die of aids
:rofl
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lol
try a real Japanese diet and you'll live for 120 years!:D
try this
* eat rice! (not too much!)
* don't eat red meat
* don't drink cocke
* eat vegetables
* eat fish (i prefer salmons, yum)
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Originally posted by IK3
lol
try a real Japanese diet and you'll live for 120 years!:D
try this
* eat rice! (not too much!)
* don't eat red meat
* don't drink cocke
* eat vegetables
* eat fish (i prefer salmons, yum)
i actually do that... except i eat red meat. will i die then?
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It is my theory that as man evolved in the Great Rift Valley, as Dr. Leaky’s digging suggests, we ate a diet of mostly vegetable material.
Picking something off a tree or digging up a tuber is a lot easier than killing and butchering a wildebeest. During the butchering process, lions and hyenas would have taken much of the booty. As meat would go bad in a day or two, a hunt would only get as much meat as the party could carry back to the tribe.
Whenever hunting was successful, probably the tribe feasted, but on the days in between… rutabagas, apples and grubs* were a lot easier to get.
This should be backed up by the latest performance theory on diet for a marathon runner or any other endurance athlete which stresses more carbo than it stresses protein.
I think we evolved on a hunter gatherer diet, and probably much more gatherer than hunter.
*grubs ain't vegetable, but I can't call 'em meat either
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but what is most healthy?
single malt or blended?
they say you should try to grab as many food groups as possible.
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single malt and blended are still both in the grain group, so you have to chase it with some wine to get a fruit group.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
single malt and blended are still both in the grain group, so you have to chase it with some wine to get a fruit group.
sounds like a plan. i have a rather nice australian red here.
ill let ya know how it goes
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Since we all spend only a limited time down here I choose to enjoy doing it.
Good food is an essential part of that and I enjoy nothing more than a good medium beef steak.
Vegetarians live 'longer' because the way they live thier lives sure makes it feel ten times longer. :rolleyes:
I prefer to live a shorter but richer life instead of a long and dull one.
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I'd like to see The China Study balanced by a similar study of mountain and desert people whose diets are mostly animal-based instead of plant-based.
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Eeating more vegetables, less meat, less fat and sugar is very good.
I've lost 94 lbs since October by doing just that and some light exercize...
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So what did Neaderthal and Cromanian primarialy eat during their development out of the last Ice Age? Snow cones, or a very high protein diet due to the climate? And the Neolithic hunters following the land bridge into NW america after the animal herds? Or the ansestors of all the peoples of Asiatic Russia, Mongolia, and Indo Europe? Meat eaters due to the climate.
Africa had an easy climatic weather cycle during the Neolithic era. The ice bound areas did not. The protein and intelligence theory have been argued over. But it does seem to look like the descendants of high protein eaters created our modern technological society. I guess Mastadon were good for something after all.
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Nonsense, civilization started out with farming - farming of crops.
If your idea was correct why didnt eskimos come to dominate the world? They eat only protein and fats. Same for the high protein diets of plains indians in more temperate climates.
Also you should know that meat is incredibly expensive and during the past 10,000 years going back to the romans and greeks and early civilizations the vast majority europeans subsidesd on vegetarian diets of grain and mush. Especially so in the last few thousand years, the exact time the technology advantage you speak of evolved.
There are a million valid reasons why northern colder climates developed into stronger economies but your false idea of meat consumption is not one of them.
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Originally posted by IK3
* don't drink cocke
w3rd
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it's the fatty acids grunz, omega-3 that lead early man to gain a larger brain.
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But the "early man" you speak of still lives on the eastern african plains - hardly a cold northern climate.
There is an important evoloutionary aspect to humans being omnivores, no doubt, but that applies to all humans, as we are all pretty much identicial inside once you get beyong the topical racial aspects such as colors and shapes and certain local diseases resistances.
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Its a little more complex than that. I have read a few books on the subject. Something caused humans to stay in the developmental stage much longer than other animals. From age 0-12 months, a human baby and a chimpanzee baby have the same intelligence. But after 12 months, the human babies brain keeps growing and he surpasses chimp. I believe its really this extremely long developmental stage that gives humans their intelligence. Chaulk it up as a freak mutation and a stroke of luck.