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Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: lazs2 on May 15, 2005, 07:54:34 PM
Over the years I have owned a lot of cars and worked on em... I came to realize that given a normal income (not fabulously wealthy) there are certain cars that a person must own in his lifetime..   Not just own but live with for... oh... say a year..

Ya gotta own one convertable for a year.

Ya gotta own one real hot rod roadster or coupe of the 30's vintage with a hot V8..

Ya gotta own one big block muscle car from the sixties/seventies with some susspension and brake improvements.

A good pre 72 corvette is a must..  early ones can be small blocks... after 64 they need to be a big block.

one brit or eye ti sports roadster from the fifties or sixties.

A really fast 55-57 chevy coupe or Nomad.

There are others but those come to mind.

A sprinkling of interesting motorcycles (please... spare me the friggin sport bikes) is a good thing too.

lazs
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Post by: Gixer on May 15, 2005, 08:03:22 PM
And a high paying job. Single with no kids.


...-Gixer
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Post by: oboe on May 15, 2005, 08:07:06 PM
My favorite in that list would be a Chevy Nomad.  I thought they were hard to find though.

Why not sport bikes?    Certainly they are a thrill to ride through some twisties.
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: Gixer on May 15, 2005, 08:17:53 PM
Because it's Lazs list and he dosn't like sports bikes.  :)


...-Gixer
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Post by: Reschke on May 15, 2005, 08:43:58 PM
The Nomads aren't that hard to find but when you find one look for a second one to cannibalize for the first one. I have been looking for a Nomad wagon for about 15 years and each one I get close to buying has already been sold or scrapped. Its been a life long dream to rebuild one and drive it out to California just for kicks.
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Post by: eskimo2 on May 15, 2005, 09:31:26 PM
This was the best car I ever owned:

(http://www.wwiirt.com/ahsounds/batmobile.jpg)

When I was in college I bought a friend’s old Dodge Dart, chopped off the roof and screwed on some plywood wings and other crap.  I had a total of $500 into it by the time it was road ready.  I drove it from 1987 to 1994 all year round in all kinds of weather.  That car was a blast.  

My other favorite cars were a VW Karman Ghia that I chopped up just as bad and a hippy style 23-window, 6-foot sunroof VW bus.  I’ve spent over 500 nights in that van (down by the river.)

eskimo
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Post by: Torque on May 15, 2005, 09:54:11 PM
a pickup should be in there somewhere.
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: Lizking on May 15, 2005, 10:20:30 PM
I always figured a 10 bay garage to be about perfect, although 2 are for maintanence.  

My cars would be:

1972 Stingray convertible, big rat motor, metalflake blue with a white leather interior.

1936 Ford, running as a '50's stocker, with a flathead and no fenders.

1974 Bronco, with a pickup cab, and tall narrow tires, orange.

1966 Thunderbird, with the 428, white leather interior and fender skirts, painted metalflake baby blue.

1968 Mercedes 280, though I would have a few modifications:
(http://www.ritzsite.net/280SL63/1968_Mercedes_280SL_6,3_fr3q.jpg)

2003 Thunderbird, flat baby-blue.

T-bucket, nuff said.


2005 Ford F350 with a service body, including a welder, air compressor, torch and enough tool boxes to git 'er done.
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Post by: tapakeg on May 15, 2005, 10:49:06 PM
My goal once I get a more disposable income is to build a nice Cobra kit car.    Talk about a fun ride


tap
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Post by: -tronski- on May 15, 2005, 10:56:21 PM
I've always wanted a 64/65 mustang convertible...

 Tronsky
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Post by: Monk on May 16, 2005, 01:40:38 AM
I would love to own a cobra.
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Post by: rpm on May 16, 2005, 02:07:44 AM
I've always wanted a Mercedes Kompressor convertable.
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Post by: beet1e on May 16, 2005, 03:29:47 AM
I agree with rpm. I am sorely tempted by the lure of a Mercedes Benz convertible - would have to be the SLK 350 cabriolet.

(http://www2.mercedes-benz.co.uk/content/media_library/unitedkingdom/mpc_unitedkingdom/passenger_cars/products/new_cars/cabriolet/slk-class/gallery/uk-slk-cabrio-560x160-001.object-Single-MEDIA.jpg)

But bloody hell - £34k price tag. I'd actually prefer the SL350, but that's £60k.

Some of those redneck cars listed above would be of no interest.
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Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2005, 03:56:03 AM
(http://www.kn.p-net.pl/hobby/porsche/galeria/356/356_speedster_05.jpg)

(http://www.thunderranch.com/Speedster/top%20left%20side%20quarter.jpg)
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Post by: Gixer on May 16, 2005, 04:15:13 AM
Personally I think the best and most beautiful car ever made was the E-Type Jaguar

(http://www.cabrionews.de/katalog/jaguar/etype/etgruenfs.jpg)

And for bikes the Vincent Black Shadow.

(http://www.motorrad-bild.de/images_textbildarchiv/marken/vincent/black_shadow/black_shadow_stsr2.jpg)



...-Gixer
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Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2005, 04:49:52 AM
The E-type is the most beautiful car ever made.
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Post by: wipass on May 16, 2005, 05:41:35 AM
Two of my previous and my current drive ..


(http://photos.imageevent.com/wipass/pakingtonroad/websize/Eldersfield_%202005%20April%20002.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/wipass/pakingtonroad/websize/TURBO%202_%20J108%20PCW.jpg)

(http://photos.imageevent.com/wipass/pakingtonroad/websize/DSCF0001.JPG)
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: Jackal1 on May 16, 2005, 06:15:36 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Torque
a pickup should be in there somewhere.


Why should a pickup be on the list? Doesn`t everyone have a pickup. I thought that was mandatory. :D
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: lazs2 on May 16, 2005, 07:58:37 AM
hmm... yep, everyone owns a pickup now and again.  

sport bikes... common as dirt... everyone and his brother has one.. you have to fight people off to keep them from "ya gotta ride my neon rocket" crap... even gixer picked a Vincent as a "must have"  Harleys are getting to be common as dirt but the old ones are a different experiance.   A four cylinder henderson or indian is interesting... even a pre unit triumph or Aerial square four.

I was tempted on the Porche thing but I never liked driving em and they were allways expensive to work on.   Had a speedster for about a month and didn't like it.

The mercedes were all pretty boring.

Cobra kit car is fine... They do one thing ritgh at least..get rid of everything british except the look... the cars are fiberglass tho and you are forever explaining about  "no.. it's not a real cobra but it is really better than a real ..."   Same for the kit car porche speedsters and... all the fiberglass Hot Rods.

lazs
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Post by: DiabloTX on May 16, 2005, 09:50:36 AM
Hey Lizking, just curious, have you ever worked on a R113 chassis before?

I agree with Lasz on the whole Mercedes thing.

My pick: 1965 GTO in turquoise, 4 speed manual, 3.73 rearend, headers, tri-power, and an AM radio.  I am a minimalist.
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Post by: midnight Target on May 16, 2005, 10:22:08 AM
I think one of these should be on the list...

(http://www.samsoffroad.com/ShowCase/ShowcasePhotos/RyansPhotos/RyansJeep6.jpg)
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: indy007 on May 16, 2005, 10:31:47 AM
AE86 Corolla
Any of the all-trac Celicas
Tommy Kaira ZZ series
The Ferrari with the flat-12 motor
Any of the ridiculous quad-turbo Bugattis.
A 3rd gen Supra
A 3rd gen RX-7
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Post by: slimm50 on May 16, 2005, 10:37:12 AM
I once owned a brand new ...........































Gremlin X. I can die happy now.
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Post by: Eagler on May 16, 2005, 10:38:51 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Monk
I would love to own a cobra.


it's for sale

fast as poop too

ford cobra (http://www.pogbird.com/cobra/)

it's my oldest sons
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Post by: newguy on May 16, 2005, 11:44:32 AM
Cripes Laz, do you know how much a pre 72 large block corvette costs? A 70 or 71 isnt too bad, but any earlier than that (especially when you hit the mid-years) and ouch. I plan on owning one, but I might have to forgo some of the others.
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on May 16, 2005, 11:59:04 AM
WTG nilsen u got a choice with style

WTF big block hehe
 
356B no big engine but a smart sports car evolved from the beetle And today the 911 is still the best u can get .

reliabilty
road hugging
good acceleration

Now the car i would like to have

Its just family needs and as long as it a volkwagen u know its right :)


(http://members.cox.net/m.c.ray/passat_pics/passat_clean2.jpg)

This is my dream car 911's daddy

:aok

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/277_1116262955_kever1303.jpg)
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2005, 12:18:43 PM
I think my next car will be a passat stationwagon when we ditch the terrano.


Then there is the Porsche 912...no not 911, I said 912 :)

(http://www.912registry.org/graphics/calendar/fitz-0205.jpg)
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Post by: NUKE on May 16, 2005, 12:25:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
WTG nilsen u got a choice with style

WTF big block hehe
 
356B no big engine but a smart sports car evolved from the beetle And today the 911 is still the best u can get .

reliabilty
road hugging
good acceleration

Now the car i would like to have

Its just family needs and as long as it a volkwagen u know its right :)


(http://members.cox.net/m.c.ray/passat_pics/passat_clean2.jpg)

 


Bug, this pic looks like it's in Arizona
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Post by: P0G0 on May 16, 2005, 01:12:49 PM
i have owned the following in this order

1970 ford f-100
1970 chevy chevell coupe
1966 chevy impala with well tuned 327
1980 subaru brat
1971 dodge charger se w/ 440 that would plant you in your seat
1974 ford pinto (hangs head in shame)
1979 pontiack gran prix w/ small block 400
1980 dodge mirada
1986 carmaro rs
1980 chevy cheyenne
2000 chyrysler sebring convert( with p.o.s. transmission)
2002 chevy s-10
1996 mustang gt
and my latest toy 1991 caddy alante
 also 3 differnt 1966-68 BSA 650 Lightnings
still planning on the vette
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: Furball on May 16, 2005, 01:43:54 PM
(http://www.nopistons.com/forums/gallery/gallery_59_16_1078287222.jpg)
Title: must own cars before you die...
Post by: lazs2 on May 16, 2005, 02:38:35 PM
one of the few cars I regret getting rid of was my '59 vette.   You can still get deals on 60's vettes but you have to do a lot of the work yourself.

lazs
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Post by: nuchpatrick on May 16, 2005, 03:00:15 PM
Well I would have to say a imported Fairlady Z right hand drive. I saw a nice restored one the day. Or a 70/71 240 Z  in Orange :aok

(http://zhome.com/zcarfilesJPEG/70ZFrontLeftSideSm.jpg)
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Post by: Nilsen on May 16, 2005, 03:10:30 PM
I just hope china will start making cars soon. We need to fuel their economy.
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Post by: newguy on May 16, 2005, 03:21:31 PM
Yea, you would definately need to do your own work. I've seen some crazy prices on mid-years. A '59 would be sweet to own, you rarely see something like that anymore, around here at least.
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Post by: killnu on May 16, 2005, 03:39:53 PM
i want a Nissan Skyline GT-R.  sorry, but since they dont sell them in states, i want what i cant have.
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Post by: beet1e on May 16, 2005, 03:52:47 PM
LOL Lazs! The thought of you driving a Mercedes is as inconceivable as my strapping on a revolver to walk down my local high street. :lol
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Post by: Wolf14 on May 16, 2005, 04:04:48 PM
I just want a 1969 Dodge Daytone with 426 Hemi. :(
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Post by: straffo on May 16, 2005, 04:23:06 PM
Quote
Originally posted by NUKE
Bug, this pic looks like it's in Arizona


If you go to the source of the linked image  you will notice it's the site of a familly living in ... Arizona :)

You won a beer, but delivery is only for  Normandie :D so I'll drink one for you :p
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on May 16, 2005, 05:11:30 PM
NUKE

Quote
Now the car i would like to have


would my friend

mines is a 93 passat an older type

(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/277_1116281879_dscn1487.jpg)
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on May 16, 2005, 05:21:12 PM
Nilsen

Why the low budget 912 ??

Actualy that type was for the amercan market  something to do with emmisions and stuff.
 

Seems we have about the same taste dough :)
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Post by: Gixer on May 16, 2005, 05:52:36 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
I think one of these should be on the list...

(http://www.samsoffroad.com/ShowCase/ShowcasePhotos/RyansPhotos/RyansJeep6.jpg)



Couldn't agree more on the Jeep safest bike I've ever driven. :)


...-Gixer
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Post by: Gixer on May 16, 2005, 06:20:10 PM
Lazs,

Actually as far as classics go, I'd class just about any british pre 60's bike as a "must have" just for the experience. With the Vincent Black Shadow being at the top of the list.

For a modern classic it would be the Ducati 916 SPS

(http://www.autoaktuell.at/news/kleinanzeigen/ducatisp916.jpg)


...-Gixer
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Post by: Halo on May 16, 2005, 06:35:11 PM
Don't forget the Miata.  For the dough, gets the best smileage around.
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Post by: spitfiremkv on May 16, 2005, 07:02:32 PM
if it ain't flying, I ain't buying:

(http://www.firebox.com/pic/p415b.jpg)
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Post by: Enduro on May 16, 2005, 09:05:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
(please... spare me the friggin sport bikes)
lazs


:rolleyes:

There's nothing like beating a Ferrari for under $10,000.  :D

You lost out, lazs.
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Post by: Sikboy on May 16, 2005, 10:12:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by midnight Target
I think one of these should be on the list...

(http://www.samsoffroad.com/ShowCase/ShowcasePhotos/RyansPhotos/RyansJeep6.jpg)



MT, I agree, but only if you have the terrain to use it. I can't imagine having a Jeep in Kansas.

-Sik
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Post by: beet1e on May 16, 2005, 10:45:14 PM
aaaagh - jeeps! I was *transported* in a Jeep once - I was in the US at the time. I think it was called a Renegade or something like that, and looked like that black thing in the pics above^.  It was a lunch outing from work. We only had to go a short distance - less than 2 miles, and even though it was 25 years ago, I will never forget that ride as the most bone jarring, uncomfortable experience I've ever had.

The most uncomfortable ride since then was in 1999 - a ride to the airport in a Lotus Elise. I had to be helped out of it by a couple of SkyCap girls. :lol
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Post by: Shuckins on May 16, 2005, 11:19:25 PM
(http://www.arcticboy.com/AMCDTP/AMCARCHIVE/Jav68blueC-800.jpg)

Always wanted a two-seat AMX...
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Post by: Masherbrum on May 16, 2005, 11:46:07 PM
Quote
Originally posted by killnu
i want a Nissan Skyline GT-R.  sorry, but since they dont sell them in states, i want what i cant have.


Skyline in the US is the Infiniti M35.  

Karaya
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Post by: Masherbrum on May 16, 2005, 11:47:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Sikboy
MT, I agree, but only if you have the terrain to use it. I can't imagine having a Jeep in Kansas.

-Sik


$5,000 says Kansas has PLENTY of Four wheeling terrain.   EVERY State, has terrain for it. Whether it is Rockcrawling, Mudding, Trail raising, etc.

Karaya
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Post by: Nash on May 16, 2005, 11:54:46 PM
A hot highschool girlfriend, summer vacation, a bit of cash, no obligations, and one of these:

(http://www.xaraxone.com/guest/guest03/assets/images/final_vw_image.jpg)

A porsche it isn't. A must own before you die? I'd have to rank it up there.
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Post by: Masherbrum on May 16, 2005, 11:59:21 PM
As for my Top 5:

My Fav of all time:

This IS the US's most expensive Lawn Ornament. One can only dream.
(http://www.fast-autos.com/fan/Assets/9594.jpg)

This is STILL the World's Fastest Production Sedan
(http://www.raceandprestige.com.au/images/carlton.jpg)

Highland Green, yummmmmy.
(http://www.ritzsite.net/Shelby-Mustang/1967_Ford_Shelby_Mustang_GT-500_f3q.JPG)

Delahaye Delage. This is drop dead gorgeous
(http://vea.qc.ca/vea/v/delageD837.jpg)

THE BMW M
(http://www.tuningpt.com/galeria/bmw/m1/1976_bmw_m1-1.jpg)

These are my fav's.

Karaya
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Post by: lazs2 on May 17, 2005, 08:44:42 AM
LOL beetle... here even women don't think the jeep is too bad.. Lotta women own em.

916 Duccati?  My son owned one.  I rode it a little.  he had the fairing off.   I thought it was ok for a sport bike.   I can ride a sport bike any time I want... Like I said... ya gotta beat people off to keep em from forcing you to ride their lattest cooky cutter neon rocket.  He allso had a buel... that was a neat bike but not a must have.

Fairladies?  drove a few... what a boring friggin car.    miata?  seriously... I am fairly secure in my masculinity but.... that is pushing it.

Four wheelin?  never got into it much.

The cars I mentioned can all be had for reasonable amounts if you buy a poor example and fix it up or make a clone.  I even find examples of big Healeys that can be had for less than ten grand that could be Americanized.    Jensen Healeys are cheap as dirt.   Plain jane chevells and tempests are cheap.    No cheap Porches.

lazs
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Post by: moot on May 17, 2005, 08:58:04 AM
Pantera
Testarossa
Speed12
Modena, 430 or 360
the Tommy Kaira ZZ with a mid-mounted Skyline engine and adjustable torque split.

Realisticaly, a GT-R N1 could be it.  
If cash were no object I'd do a first year Cerbera 4.5 and fix the handling.  Or the same with a BMW M1, though that's prolly not realistic.
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Post by: moot on May 17, 2005, 09:00:50 AM
Did Ferrari ever do a 4WD?
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Post by: Masherbrum on May 17, 2005, 09:42:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by moot
Did Ferrari ever do a 4WD?


Not that I am aware of Moot.

Karaya
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Post by: Nilsen on May 17, 2005, 10:29:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Nash
A hot highschool girlfriend, summer vacation, a bit of cash, no obligations, and one of these:

(http://www.xaraxone.com/guest/guest03/assets/images/final_vw_image.jpg)

A porsche it isn't. A must own before you die? I'd have to rank it up there.


Add a couple of horny hippie-type chicks with pointy breasts and you have a winner.
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Post by: midnight Target on May 17, 2005, 11:17:59 AM
Always wanted a microbus.. My buddy had one. Seemed to be up on blocks more than it was on the road.

We took it into the mountains once.... just once.  With a full load of teenagers and their stuff it made it about 1/2 way. Even in 1st gear the little motor was screaming for help.
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Post by: Furious on May 17, 2005, 11:25:01 AM
Don't know about "must own before you die" cars.  All I really want right now is to get my '78 Scout Traveller Diesel running again.  

...preferably without the diesel.


hhhmm, and an FJ40.
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Post by: Sikboy on May 17, 2005, 01:24:11 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
$5,000 says Kansas has PLENTY of Four wheeling terrain.   EVERY State, has terrain for it. Whether it is Rockcrawling, Mudding, Trail raising, etc.

Karaya


I guess I never really got the appeal of "Mudding" myself.

-Sik
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Post by: lazs2 on May 17, 2005, 02:25:54 PM
back in the late 60's the microbus was a "must have"...  I never seen one make it to Tahoe.. every single one of em blew their underpowered little guts out up hill.

I did trade my Olds powered 57 chevy for the night for one of em for a drive in movie date.   I think my sone was concieved in one of the damn things.   Love my son but still have no fond memories of those worthless little bus's

lazs
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Post by: indy007 on May 17, 2005, 02:52:50 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Masherbrum
Skyline in the US is the Infiniti M35.  

Karaya


I still haven't seen one in person. All we have around here are the neutered G35s. I know one person that bought one & bolted on the twin turbos as soon as they were released. Fast. Fun... but still not a real R34 Skyline :)
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Post by: Dago on May 17, 2005, 03:22:20 PM
Shelby GT500 would be fine by me.
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Post by: moot on May 18, 2005, 05:32:40 AM
I never understood why they'd call a Skyline anything without its inline-6 turbo.
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Post by: Jackal1 on May 18, 2005, 06:42:41 AM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
one of the few cars I regret getting rid of was my '59 vette.  
lazs


  The `61 Vette I had would have to go on the top of my list I guess as the car I liked and miss the most.
  Most cars I`ve owned, like anything else, over time you grow used to and just sort of take for granted and is no biggy after a while. Not so with the Vette for me. Every time I got in and cranked her up it was a blast. One of the few cars I`ve owned that I actualy drove just for the pure pleasure of driving.

  The Cobra--- I had a female friend who had a nice Cobra.
  It was super fast. (The car)
Looked great and was fun to to take for a cruise. (Both)
  Purred like a kitten and clung like glue. (Both)
  Big headlights. (The gal)
  Wife made me give it up. (Both)  :)

  The Porsche--- Possibly the ugliest piece of metal ever assembled into anything resembling an auto. An overglorified Karmen Ghia.
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Post by: lazs2 on May 18, 2005, 08:09:58 AM
dago..  yu can build a shelby 350 or 500 clone pretty reasonably..

yep.. early vette... I had both tops for it and loved the way it sounded with headman headers and corvair turbo mufflers with the top off... short stick hurst linkage and really sweet small block..

I am talking about cars that you have to own for a year.   I don't like porches but can see how they would fit.  

We are talking about cars that you want to drive every day.. cars that are fun just to fire up and ones that you don't have to worry about getting into the wrong one of the same color in the parking lot.

head turners but not kings ransom cars.  

Rather have a early vette in primer with ratty interior than a brand new lexus kind of thing...

lazs