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Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Big G on May 16, 2005, 02:44:57 PM
Hi guys,
What is the considered opinions of the vets in here as to the optimum range of the .303s  in the Seafire/V ?
And the same for the 20mm cannon, Just trying to find out as I don't know if I'm to close or to far away from targets.
Thanks guys
Big G
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: JB73 on May 16, 2005, 03:07:46 PM
u have been killed D800 by hispanos many many times in AHII

you want leathal range, or accurate range?
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: LivetoDie on May 16, 2005, 03:10:58 PM
I'm no vet for sure Big G but since max convergence sttings are 650m I'd say you should not be firing over 600 or so unless it's head on and level where the closure rate doubles. Somewhere between 200-400 seems to be realistic. Go to offline mode and practice hitting drones from different ranges. The cannons will have a higher drop rate than the .303's though,keep that in mind.
I'm sure the vets here will pipe in with some more helpful advice.
Good luck!
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Big G on May 16, 2005, 03:13:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by JB73
u have been killed D800 by hispanos many many times in AHII

you want leathal range, or accurate range?



Lethal and accurate, I normally try my luck around 400 yds?
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: JB73 on May 16, 2005, 03:14:33 PM
levithan sets his conv to 225 or something like that

really really close
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Furball on May 16, 2005, 03:26:04 PM
400 is the magical "thou shalt not hit anything" line for me.  i set convergence to 325 usually.
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: mechanic on May 16, 2005, 03:45:02 PM
convergence for duels or good furballs for me is about 275-300 but for regular MA use i like them out at 400 for all.  always have the spit guns all together, a few 303s on target may make the difference between a kill and frustration as they loop over and kill you.


your acurate range with convergence 400 is 400, bang on the crosshair in level flight.

you can realisticly, speed/gravity/possition depending, hit planes and kill them anywhere up to 800-900 yrds if you're lucky.

only the other day, after losing many spits to a P38, fighting a noted 38 master in a long climb, im roped out at 1000yrds separation, so, i sprayed him nose to tail and took both engines. we both shrugged it off, some fluke.

because both planes were barely moving, a 1k kill was not a problem with a steay burst on target and a lot of luck.


so dont hold fire at any range if you think you can make the shot.
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Elyeh on May 16, 2005, 03:57:43 PM
I set mine to 225...
Chews up just about anything in the 300 or less range
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Schaden on May 16, 2005, 04:38:47 PM
Set at 600

I can kill a stable target at 800, manouvering target at 400.
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: 68DevilM on May 16, 2005, 04:48:40 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Furball
400 is the magical "thou shalt not hit anything" line for me.  i set convergence to 325 usually.


ive always had mine at 350 too
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Schatzi on May 16, 2005, 05:10:05 PM
For hispanos, i most times shoot at d200-d400, as its fairly easy to target in that range. but ive also managed to kill a 110 from 800 out (but more luck in hitting than anything else). BTW, thats also where i have my convergence - 225)

For 303s the question is way more difficult.

Technically on the MGs the range is greater, their ballistics make it more easy to hit at greater distance as well.
Now the big BUT: my experience in Hurri Mk1 is that the spreading of the bullets is a lot bigger the further the target is away. And since one single bullet does next to no damage you need to concentrate the hits in one point. Meaning: Ive easily sewn the wing of a spit at d100-d200 where as ive peppered another one from 600 out with two thirds of my ammo, getting lots of hit sprites but doing no visible damage (except tons of holes i guess ;))

So in my (admittedly little) experience you want to be very up close and personal when going for a 303 kill - having your convergence at about 150.


I never shoot both together, since they have fairly different ballistics. and unless the target practically fills your windshield, one of them will miss (usually the hispanos).


The best advice is probably going offline and do some targeting experiments with different convergences/shooting distances. Then try different settings in MA and see what works best for you.

You also have to give your 'targeting eye' time to get used to different ballistics of the various MGs and Canon types.
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Ghosth on May 16, 2005, 05:46:24 PM
Try taking up the spit 1, you have a heck of a a time damaging anything at 300.

Bring convergience in to 150, and shoot at 150 and they'll tear wings off.

Cannons are also better close in, although the Hispano's in spits are the best for long range.
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: straffo on May 17, 2005, 02:51:15 AM
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Originally posted by JB73
u have been killed D800 by hispanos many many times in AHII

you want leathal range, or accurate range?


Doesn't imply the shooter was at d800.

I had often people say that when my typhoon was at less than 500
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Schutt on May 17, 2005, 02:57:36 AM
I have hispanos at 225 and 303s at 400.

Kill with the hispanos at short range, go on the nerves of the enemy and try to make him turn with the 303s. I dont get any kills with the 303s but i hit enemy on long range where i dont want to waste my hispano amunition.
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: BigB717 on May 17, 2005, 03:22:07 AM
450-475
Title: Spit V/Seafire 303 ranges and 20 mm range
Post by: Pepe on May 17, 2005, 05:12:22 AM
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Originally posted by straffo
Doesn't imply the shooter was at d800.

I had often people say that when my typhoon was at less than 500


But you're still a laser dweeb!   :D