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Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: Karnak on May 16, 2005, 05:05:24 PM
The new P-47 looks gorgeous, and considering the hideousness of the subject material that is saying a lot. :p

(http://www.hitechcreations.com/pyro/chowhoundsc2.jpg)
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: Jish102 on May 16, 2005, 05:36:24 PM
Yep she's a beauty :aok
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Post by: DipStick on May 16, 2005, 05:37:39 PM
WTG Greebo, looks sweet.
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: Sp4de on May 16, 2005, 05:38:23 PM
(http://www.gfg06.dial.pipex.com/chowhoundsc1.jpg)

Greebo is the man!
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: DREDIOCK on May 16, 2005, 05:38:52 PM
:aok Well done!:aok
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Post by: Jish102 on May 16, 2005, 05:42:27 PM
Very nice Greebo I like:)
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Post by: Kweassa on May 16, 2005, 06:57:52 PM
Stunning!
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Post by: nopoop on May 16, 2005, 07:18:13 PM
VERY nice
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Post by: Sancho on May 16, 2005, 07:42:46 PM
I like it.  Nice to see an update to the jug after all these years.  This looks like a nice canvas to paint on. :)

Some comments on the paint scheme and model: The upper wing roundel seems waaaay to big. I'm not familiar with how "Chow Hound" was painted, but 56th FG planes usually had an oversized roundel on the lower wing surface and normal sized on the top.  This I believe was to avoid friendly fire from the ground. Also, I'm not 100% sure of this (will have to refer to my sources when I get home), but the interior paint should be green, as yellow was only used on Curtiss-built P-47Gs.  

As far as the 3d model, the guns look like they might be in line with the wing rather than the ground, although it is hard to tell at this angle, but the guns should be parallel with the ground.  The wingtips could use a few more polygons to make a smoother curve.  I find the chunkyness at the wingtip is ugly, and its kind of odd they would sacrifice polygons at such a noticeable location but put such fine detail into other parts.  See the nice detail on the undercarriage, canopy, and tail, for example, which are nicely done.
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Post by: Enduro on May 16, 2005, 08:50:59 PM
i can't wait to see the new cockpit.  :D

nice skin!
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Post by: RightF00T on May 16, 2005, 08:51:31 PM
Alright, now I need a new pair of pants...
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: Waffle on May 16, 2005, 09:06:11 PM
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Originally posted by Sancho
Some comments on the paint scheme and model: The upper wing roundel seems waaaay to big. I'm not familiar with how "Chow Hound" was painted, but 56th FG planes usually had an oversized roundel on the lower wing surface and normal sized on the top.  


Belieive this bird is from the 509th Fighter Squadron / 405th Fighter group, not the 56th. It's using the 60" insignias on the upper wings instead of the type 4 insignia which were 39"
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Post by: Sp4de on May 16, 2005, 09:14:44 PM
Captain Robert Blackburn of the 509th FS, 405th FG.

Waffle is correct
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Post by: Waffle on May 16, 2005, 09:23:06 PM
Wanted to check some things also - if my references serve me correct -

The first p47ds out of Farmingdale and all of the Evansville 47s followed the scheme of the zinc chromate on all internal unprotected surfaces, except for the cockpit which had black tint added to the zinc chromate, which would result in chromate green. US interior colors are screwy though - never really know what shade of green you'll find in the cockpit...

can imaginge this happened more than once: "no, it's ONE part black to 3 parts zinc...not 2., oh well paint it anyway" :)



disclaimer**I actually don't know the ratio**
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: SkyChimp on May 16, 2005, 10:37:13 PM
Show us da cockpit :)
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: Greebo on May 17, 2005, 02:40:18 AM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

WRT the upper wing insignia, I found this 3 view which shows the larger insignia on the upper wing of Chow Hound, but not Fat Cat. I've also seen a photo of a similar P-47 with a large upper insignia, which I can't find at the moment. I suppose friendly fire from higher Allied aircraft was probably as much of a threat than the LW was by 1945. Particularly to a specialist ground attack outfit like the 509th.

All the wartime colour pictures of P-47s I have seen show yellow interior paint, except in the cockpit. Airshow aircraft tend to be green inside, but I guess that's some sort of FAA certification issue.

(http://pics.hannants.co.uk/pics/SS72850_1.jpg)
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Post by: Mime on May 17, 2005, 04:24:00 AM
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
Show us da cockpit :)


it is allied bird.  expect nothing less than great visibility.
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: MOIL on May 17, 2005, 04:31:01 AM
Of course anyone who knows me realizes I know as much about A/C as I do the space shuttle.
We have a P47 in the game already, what is diff about the one pictured and the one in game?
They look the same to me:confused:
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Post by: paulobrien6969 on May 17, 2005, 05:45:30 AM
great work
excellent detail
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Post by: Saintaw on May 17, 2005, 06:47:51 AM
Looks nice! The new cockpits make me fly them new planes... now when do we get a new f6f???

<- I know, I know... "grasshopper..."
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: frank3 on May 17, 2005, 07:29:01 AM
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Originally posted by MOIL
We have a P47 in the game already, what is diff about the one pictured and the one in game?
They look the same to me:confused:


About time you grunts open up a hatch and stick your head out :aok
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: Karnak on May 17, 2005, 11:35:26 AM
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Originally posted by MOIL
Of course anyone who knows me realizes I know as much about A/C as I do the space shuttle.
We have a P47 in the game already, what is diff about the one pictured and the one in game?
They look the same to me:confused:

The P-47s are being updated to AH2 standards, as are the P-51s.
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Post by: Mitsu on May 17, 2005, 01:49:18 PM
Outstanding.

Please improve wing tip.
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Post by: Stang on May 17, 2005, 02:22:40 PM
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Originally posted by Mitsu
Outstanding.

Please improve wing tip.


That was my only gripe as well.  It doesn't need to be so angular, does it?  It really stuck out like a sore thumb to me.
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Post by: DaYooper on May 17, 2005, 02:50:58 PM
As I understand it, the wartime specs called for "nonreflective" interior finishes.

All aircraft deemed 'airworthy' by the FAA at the time of their release to the civilain world were probably as they were flown.  I would expect this condition, pigment and finish, to be maintained by the owners to keep the proper historical condition.
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Post by: mars01 on May 18, 2005, 12:07:08 AM
***** sick!!!  Great Job!!  I can hardly wait for the new Hogs!!
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Post by: Stang on May 18, 2005, 12:12:33 AM
HT needs to model the Pitts with 4 20mm.

:eek:
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Post by: mars01 on May 18, 2005, 08:46:17 AM
Yeah Baby!!  When are you comming to CT Stang???  I'm looking at your Pitts ticket in my hand as I type.  :D
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Post by: Stang on May 18, 2005, 10:11:02 AM
Ah man... I was going to fly up to watch the Reds play the Sox in June but I can't do it that week so probably not until fall.


:mad:
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Post by: slimm50 on May 18, 2005, 12:43:47 PM
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Originally posted by frank3
About time you grunts open up a hatch and stick your head out :aok

:lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: mars01 on May 18, 2005, 01:57:49 PM
Cool fall it is, a great time to fly to.
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: pellik on May 18, 2005, 02:03:05 PM
So how low can you do a split-s from in that thing, Mars?
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: mars01 on May 18, 2005, 02:07:13 PM
LOL, good question.  I'll get back to you on that one.  Believe it or not I only just did my first split S in it yesterday.
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Post by: pellik on May 18, 2005, 02:23:19 PM
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Originally posted by mars01
LOL, good question.  I'll get back to you on that one.  Believe it or not I only just did my first split S in it yesterday.


You should tell us how low you're going to do it from before you go find out. That way if we never here from you again we'll at least know it's higher then whatever number you give us.

:lol

-p.
Title: P-47 Preview
Post by: mars01 on May 18, 2005, 04:33:57 PM
LOLH.