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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Pooface on May 18, 2005, 02:01:57 PM
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ok, i think im gonna explode if we have anymore 'i want, i want' requests.
im starting this as a new thread, and want it to be treated properly, not as a joke, there are plenty of other threads u can mess about on.
ok, this thread is a basic list of what the ah community would like to see in the game:
Rules:
1. max of 2 requests per person
2. realistic requests
ok, i'll go first. i would personally love to see a mossie bomber version. now i know lots of people have said this, but lets keep it in one post. i reckon mossie bomber wouldnt be too hard to model-easier that startin from scratch. of course htc would have to add in new flight dynamics, and this wont happen until the mossies get redone, but itd be worth it. itd be cool to have formations of mossies in ma.
secondly, i really feel that the he111 should be added.some of you may say that because its early war it wont get flown, but it will. with an he111, we could have proper bob scenarios, but itd get a fair amount of use in ma. perhaps to make it more popular, htc could enable it with the 4 plane formation, something htc proposed, but was never really thought about.
anyway, thats me, so what does everyone else think?
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New? :)
I want ......
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P39-Covers early war, PTO,MTO, North Africa, Russia. Since AH is more of a low alt war, it would survive better then if it was a high alt escort war. Skinners would have lots of options on paint schemes.
Beaufighter-Something tough about that bird. I might even do some ground attack stuff if that was around :) Good for scenario use too. ETO, PTO, CBI, MTO, North Africa. Skinners could have a lot of fun with it
Dan/CorkyJr
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Originally posted by Pooface
ok, i think im gonna explode if we have anymore 'i want, i want' requests.
im starting this as a new thread, and want it to be treated properly, not as a joke, there are plenty of other threads u can mess about on.
ok, this thread is a basic list of what the ah community would like to see in the game:
Rules:
1. max of 2 requests per person
2. realistic requests
ok, i'll go first. i would personally love to see a mossie bomber version. now i know lots of people have said this, but lets keep it in one post. i reckon mossie bomber wouldnt be too hard to model-easier that startin from scratch. of course htc would have to add in new flight dynamics, and this wont happen until the mossies get redone, but itd be worth it. itd be cool to have formations of mossies in ma.
secondly, i really feel that the he111 should be added.some of you may say that because its early war it wont get flown, but it will. with an he111, we could have proper bob scenarios, but itd get a fair amount of use in ma. perhaps to make it more popular, htc could enable it with the 4 plane formation, something htc proposed, but was never really thought about.
anyway, thats me, so what does everyone else think?
If you want to keep it in one post why don't you use one of the many other threads dedicated to this topic? Why do you need to create ANOTHER 'this is the place for these requests' thread?
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D4Y Judy.
Ki-43.
I need the Judy desperately for the CAP event. Once the new US fighters start rolling in, the Vals and Kates are just decorations. The Judy may not make it home, but she'll make it to the target.
We could also use an Early IJAF fighter. Personally, I'm not a fan of the under-gunned Ki-43, but it was an important plane. I'd like to see how it's weak guns stack up against the tough Navy birds though.
-Sik
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1.Brewster B-239 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52235)
2.Brewster B-239 (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52235)
I believe the arguments are there in the thread so I don't have to repeat :)
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Originally posted by pellik
If you want to keep it in one post why don't you use one of the many other threads dedicated to this topic? Why do you need to create ANOTHER 'this is the place for these requests' thread?
pelik, this is one thread for all. most of the others are, 'i want an f8f', if u get my reason. im trying to set up what they did in custom sounds and skins, with a plane request thread, like the skins under construction thread. if we have it all in one thread, with sensible requests, HTC are more likely to take notice
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cool, cool, these are some good requests. this is why i think its better for everyone to post planes theyre interested in here.
ok, from now on, have a go at getting pics and info. this isnt manditory, just i think it would be cool. some people may not have a clue what a ki43 is, so lets have some stuff up, and turn this into a good informative thread.
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ok, here i go. the he111 was an early war german bomber, very prelevant during the battle of britain
ok, this might be a lil hard to decipher :) goes in order
He-111E-3 He-111H-3 He-111H-16 He-111P-2
Wingspan 22.6m (74'1.75")
Length 17.5m (57'5") 16.4m (53'9.75")
Weights: Empty 6,818 kg(15,031 lb) 7,727kg (17,000 lb) 8,680kg (19,136 lb) 8,000kg (17,640 lb)
Max Loaded 9,600kg (21,165 lb) 14,000kg (30,865 lb) 13,500kg (29,762 lb)
Engines 2x 1,010hp Junkers Jumo 211A-1 air-cooled radials 2x 1,200hp Junkers Jumo 211D-2 2x 1,350hp Junkers Jumo 211F-2 2x 1,100hp Daimler Benz DB-601A-1 liquid-cooled inverted-V-12
Max. Speed All versions about 260mph (435 km/h) - with maximum load this dropped to around 205 mph (390km/h)
Service Ceiling 7,000m (22,970ft) 6,700m (21,980 ft) 5,000m (16,400 ft)
Range All versions around 1,950km (1,212 miles) at normal load - at maximum load this dropped to around 1,200km (745 miles)
Military Load 1x 7.92mm MG15 machine gun in nose, ventral dustbin and dorsal positions, bombload up to 2,000 kg (4,410 lb) Very varied. Any combination from: 1x manual and/or 1x fixed 7.92mm MG15 or 20mm MGFF in nose, one or twin 7.92mm MG81 in either or both beam positions, 1x or twin MG81 in front and/or rear of gondola, and twin 13mm MG131 in dorsal position (turret from H-16 onwards). Ordnance up to 2,000kg (4,409lb) 1x manual and/or 1x fixed 7.92mm MG15 in nose, 1x dorsal firing rearwards, 1x or twin in rear of gondola, one in either or both beam positions, and optionally one fixed firing rearward from tail. Ordnance up to 2,000kg (4,409lb)
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Ki-44-II-Otsu
Spitfire LF.Mk VIII
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JU-52
Sunderland
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- Brewster B-239
- LaGG-3
... just because.
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Originally posted by Pooface
ok, i think im gonna explode if we have anymore 'i want, i want' requests.
*BOOM*
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Me-210/410 (I just like these things)
P-61 (I dont care about no damned radar. It has two tails, I must have it!)
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Gloster Meteor
B25 with the later variants with majority of the guns in the front basically being an attack plane.
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Originally posted by Arlo
New? :)
I want ......
F4U-1A
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P38F and P38H
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Originally posted by killnu
P38F and P38H
Come on KillnU! You forgot the P38E so we could fight in the Aleutians and get the first 38 kills of the war :)
54th FS time!
Dan/CorkyJr
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Fantasy pick:
(http://www.heikoshomepage.mynetcologne.de/images/UHU/He219.jpg)
Historical pick:
(http://www.prop-powered.de/pics/airacobra.jpg)
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Brewster model 239...
And for the second, P39. Here's a Q15:
(http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/photoreports/blenheim2001/p39001.jpg)
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Mig 3
B-25
for 2 vehicles
Sherman Firefly
Cromwell
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US Planes only! would pop off> :rofl
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ooh yeah, p39 should be added too
i like the ideas about the tanks bodhi
b25, later version would do pretty well too
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I feel that the D4Y would be one of the best additions for Special events, because as it stands the Japanese are gross disadvantage in any Carrier duel after 1942. While the US has the advantage of subbing the far superior Avenger for the woeful devistator in early battles, the Japanese are stuck with the fun but underperforming Val and Kate when it comes to carrier strike planes.
Now, the Japanese will always be at a disadvantage when it comes to bombload, however the D4Y would give them a significantly increased porbability of reaching the target. With a speed of aroudn 350 mph, intercepting Judys will be very difficult for the US. I've succesffully taken Vals and Kates into attacks through heavy CAP (against F4Fs), so I think the Judy could meet success against F6F and F4U cap. If I were an F4U or F6F player who liked events, I'd want the D4Y, because chasing those bastards would actually be a challange, as opposed to the cripple fight that ensues when you bounce a bunch of D3As
Also, I think it is easily the best looking Carrier Strike plane.
(http://www.warszawa.hailcesarz.com/images/D4Y.jpg)
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Junkers Ju 88C-6c
Role: Night-fighter
Crew: Three
Dimensions: Length 47 ft 1.25 in (14.36 m); Height 16 ft 7.5 in (5.06 m); Wing Span 65 ft 7.5 in (20.0 m); Wing Area 586.63sq ft (54.5 sq m)
Engine(s): Two liquid cooled, 12 cylinder inverted-Vee, Junkers Jumo 211J-1 (or J-2) of 1,340 hp (? kW) each.
Weights: Empty Equipped 19,973 lb (9,060 kg); Normal Take-off 27,227 lb (12,350 kg); Maximum Take-off ? lb (? kg)
Performance: Maximum level speed 303 mph (488 kph) at 19,685 ft (6,000 m); Cruising speed 263 mph (423 kph) at same altitude; Time to 19,685 ft (6,000 m) 12 min 42 sec; Service ceiling 32,480 ft (9,900 m); Normal range on internal fuel 1,230 mls (1,980 km).
Armament: Three fixed forward-firing 20mm MG FF/M cannon and three fixed forward-firing 7.9mm MG 17 machine guns in lower nose section, one flexible 13 mm MG 131 machine-gun at rear of cockpit. Optional 'Schräge Musik' installation in upper fuselage with two 20 mm MG 151 cannon firing obliquely forward
(http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/image/foto/25-4-2002-9-0-junkers_ju_88_museum_2.jpg)
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Official designation: Junkers Ju 87g
Common designation: Stuka (a contraction of the word Sturzkampfflugzeug)
Type: two-seat dive bomber
Engines: One Junkers Jumo 211P inline piston engine
Horsepower: 1,500
Crew: 2
Weight Empty (lbs): 8,686 (3940 kg) Max Take-off Weight (lbs): 14,550 (6600 kg)
Length: 37ft 8.8in (11.50m) Height: 12ft 9.5in (3.90m)
Wingspan: 49ft 2.5in (15.00m) Wing Area: 362.7 sq ft (33.60m squared)
Speed (mph): 248 (400 km/h) at 15,750 ft (4800m) Range (miles): 410 (660km)
Service Ceiling: 27,885 ft (8500 m)
Armament: Two forward firing 20mm MG 151/20 cannon, One Rear-mounted cockpit 7.92mm MG81 machine-gun
Ammunition: 6,000 Pzgr and 2,700 Patr SmK
Bombload: One 3,968 lb. (1800-kg) bomb under fuselage and a 1,102 lb (500-kg) bomb under each wing
From 1942 on the Ju 87G-1 was a dedicated anti-tank aircraft on the eastern front. It was fitted with a 1400hp Junkers Jumo 211J engine. It had a maximum speed of 314km/h, a ceiling of 8000m and a very limited range of only 320km. The reduced speed and range was due to the armour plating installed to protect the pilot and gunner when flying low-level tank busting missions. It was armed with two 30mm cannons in pods under the wings and a 7.92mm machine gun in the back for the gunner.
(http://users.belgacom.net/airimg1/avion1/17791.jpe)
(http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/image/foto/29-3-2002-8-43-junkers_ju87g_stuka_tankbuster_2.jpg)
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1). PE-2 and PE-8. http://www.vectorsite.net/avpe2.html WE NEED RUSSIAN BOMBERS!!!!
2). Ki-43-IIIa was tossing it up between LaGG 3, MiG-3, P-39, Ki-44 and the Oscar. All these should be top prio additions as they where all very significant fighters and are of nations severly lacking in their arsenal.
Tex
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Well, 2 is hard, 4 would have been ok.
Ok, I'll cheat ;)
P39/P63. They look almost the same, while the 63 is definately a MAplane, the 39 is necessary for history and a perk harvester maybe?
Then it gets tough. Spit VIII? Beau? B25?
Well, sory, my vote goes to the He 111, in case the V-1 option could be added, - hehe another cheat .....
FYI, some 1200 of those were launched low over the North sea. So, the first ever cruise missile.
(http://www.wwiirelics.com/images/v1_3.jpg)
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More of the air launced V-1:
(http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Bilder/He111/He111H22-1%20V1.jpg)
And more funny ops.....a glide-torpedoe.....
(http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Bilder/He111/he111J1-2.jpg)
Hope that the images work :)
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A26 attack bomber- like a A20 with 20 mm's and could carry 4 k of bombs plus rockets. It was also a little faster than the A20
p39/P63 with these we could have a russian fighter that carried
a bomb other that a 100 lbs. Could be used as US or russian.
20mm ostie (wirblewind?) for gvs need it more than tanks now
At least more russian or japanese planes we need those more than american/german/uk planes
Or how about a couple of italian aircraft
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I like many others would like to see the B-25 and I think the P-39 would kinda be cool as well.
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-Ground-
Willy jeep
Sherman
-Air-
P61
f8f
This too....(http://www.hollywood-diecast.com/knight%20rider%20KARR%20HW%20loose.gif)
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P38/P63
M-7 Priest
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how about the b25's and maybe a b29 or 2 of i recall the b29 is probably the most historical plane ever since it dropped the a bombs, make them perk bombers. heck we can even put an a bomb on the game make it 3,000 perk points and make it to where we can take out an enemy base or 2 for like 3 days or so because of radiation... that would be cool... but we really need b25's, i can't believe the lancs and b26's are on here but no mitchells. they can replace that stupid ar234 ( useless ) :aok
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i think a line of the sherman tanks would be pretty cool we got the panzer and the t34 why not have a sherman
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Originally posted by Iceman24
i think a line of the sherman tanks would be pretty cool we got the panzer and the t34 why not have a sherman
Ok ... this makes up for the B-29 request. ;)
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Doesn't HT have to consider the flight physics of each plane it models in the game? I would assume some of the popular planes like the Judy would be easier than some of these more obscure picks.
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Ok ... this makes up for the B-29 request.
yeah yeah yeah it would be cool though lol
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ok first off the ar234 perks should be dropped by 10% then make the payload more real to life... because the ar234 could carry 2x500 kg on the wings and a 1000 kg on the belly of the aircraft...
Add a new bomber, b-29 super fortress... make it cost about 200 perks when all are teams equal in numbers...
for the ground I would like to see a sherman, and a flame thrower tank, not to sure what the name of it was though...
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G4M Betty
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/images/betty1.jpg)
P39
Ki-43 Oscar
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/IJARG/images/nakajimaki43-1.jpg)
Brewster Buffalo
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/NARG/images/buffalo-1.jpg)
Sorry, 2 was impossible to do. :)
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P39
B25
How can you deny these two models in a WWII air combat game made in the good old USA? Screw the Euro-snobs and rice rockets I want more American Iron! What the heck I'm feeling generous... add two P39s and make one a Russian variant.
Magoo
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http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/pzl11.jpg
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Now, the PZL-11 belongs with early war, - and early war needs quite a bit to fill the planeset. I am afraid that not much from there will see the grace of HTC soon.
You'd say PZL-11, Gladiator, Henschel bipe, Fiat Bipe, I-Bipe, and then the I-16 as very much the most likely, - absolutely essential for early war eastern front.
You'd also need the D-520, A Fokker, A Brewster, the He 111, the Ju52, 109D, a Blenheim or Wellington, and we're still in 1940/41
My first out of those would be the I-16 and He-111.
Why? Well, they were multiple variants, serving for years. A late cannon armed I-16 is a nasty one to dogfight, and the He-111 is a multi purpose aircraft being able to do stuff like lobbing around with a V-1 under it's belly.
Will post some 1941-1942 stuff later perhaps....
Should make a thread like : "What 1939 aircraft do you want into AH, pleas give two only"....:)
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P-39Q AiraCobra And an F8F1-b Bearcat.
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We need more perked bombers I think. So...
1) HS 129 with underwing-mounted anti-armor cannons
2) Bomber version of the ME262
Also, how about some perked GVs?
1) IS 1, 2 or 3
2) M-26
3) Panther
4) Jagd-anything
5) Wespe
6) ISU 120 or 150 for those hard to reach places :)
Maybe a few new fighters...
1) P-39 (Russian and American versions)
2) Perked Meteor (maybe limited to only a few bases)
Speaking of which, the idea of having the Komet available at only a few fields makes me wonder: What if a certain LARGE bomber were added to the list but available at only one or two fields? The B-29 Strato would seriously shift the balance of power toward the buff-drivers--therefore if it were limited to taking off from select few fields, only those serious enough to climb in for the long haul, ie those who want to do more than fly a sector and suicide themselves to knock out a town, will take it up.
The Meteor would be a counter to the ME262, but I've seen only a few of them flying and have yet to be engaged by one, even when I tried fighting it. Even some of the bigger, badder tanks and AA carriers could be used as a last-ditch defense of a few remaining fields. Imagine...
The Rooks and Knights have pushed the Bishops intoa corner, swallowing territory like a fat man swallows his weight at a buffet... Five Rook Tigers, twelve Pzs. and eight Flaks start the trip over the hill. Suddenly a Tiger brews up, its turret flying into the air. As the crews scramble a Flak, and then another are turned into smoldering pits. The Pz crews panic as another Tiger explodes: A Jagdtiger is maneuvering into positionfor another shot...!
I'd love to see it play out...
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Just more of everything would be fine. :)
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Early war planeset seriously needs some additions...the Brewster, P-39, B-25, Oscar, Betty...should all be added.
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How about the Me 410.
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/me410.html
(http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/lrg0814.jpg)
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P47-M
KI-43
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F-86 Sabre
Mig-15
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Biplanes from Italy
Recon planes