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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Flyboy on May 19, 2005, 12:53:50 PM
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we had enough of "what plane you want next" type of threads, those threats are getting annoying.
so in this thread post what plane you do not want to see in AH.
for me:
any P38 varient :p
and a the B29, P61, F8F and F7f
lets see how long will it take for this thread to become a flame war :)
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i do not want to see the meteor, it didn't make it in time for the war.
i dont want to see the b29, because if i have heard right it only operated above the japanese defense capabilities (at least planes). if what i have heard is true we should only get it if HTC impliments a minium altitude of 35k to release bombs. otherwise all we will have is huge 200' AGL bombers killing themselves droping insaine ammounts of bombs to kill 1 panzer
i do not want to see the 4 cannon p51. it never saw combat, it was just a test plane, not an actual production platform.
in fact that's the key i think. if there was an actual production line making the plane, and making that specific varient (not some field modded special), and the plane made it into some combat.
no prototypes, no field mod specials (other than plain armorment, like different gun loads). no plane that 5-10 were made in some special situation.
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LeMay had the B29's fly at 12k without their guns to get the bombs on target over Japan. When they flew at 25k and up the winds blew their bombs all over the place. So B29 effective stratigy will fit in perfectly in the MA.
Hitech can model the B29 after LeMay's order removing the guns. That would be very reilistic, now wouldn't it...........
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I do not want to see any plane that Jb73 wants.
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Originally posted by Flyboy
we had enough of "what plane you want next" type of threads, those threats are getting annoying.
Let start a "what plane you want to be removed..."
I vote P51 :D
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i dont want any added except for P38 variants. :p
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We sure dont want any plane that demonstrates the genuis and creativity and wealth of the american Aeroindustry in 1945. That would be bad. Lets just pretend the the US stoped making planes in late 43!
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Originally posted by bustr
LeMay had the B29's fly at 12k without their guns to get the bombs on target over Japan. When they flew at 25k and up the winds blew their bombs all over the place. So B29 effective stratigy will fit in perfectly in the MA.
Hitech can model the B29 after LeMay's order removing the guns. That would be very reilistic, now wouldn't it...........
There's wind in the MA?
Seriously, why bother then. Who would fly a 12K capped bomber w/o guns?
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Originally posted by Pongo
We sure dont want any plane that demonstrates the genuis and creativity and wealth of the american Aeroindustry in 1945. That would be bad. Lets just pretend the the US stoped making planes in late 43!
And he used that most devistating of weapons, he used "Sarcasm"!
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Ok My opinion
1. No jets. In fact, I like to se the ones in the game go away. Not that they will but that's how I feel.
2.No uber bombers(i.e. b29).
3. lastly, i agree, if it didn't see combat it doesn't belong here. Just because it was depoyed to a combat unit late in the war but did not see action because the war ended does not mean it qualifies.
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Whatever you do mistuh Hitech please don't throw me in that there briar patch...I mean model a P39...
Magoo
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LA7, opps too late
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.delete La7
:p
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Originally posted by bustr
LeMay had the B29's fly at 12k without their guns to get the bombs on target over Japan. When they flew at 25k and up the winds blew their bombs all over the place. So B29 effective stratigy will fit in perfectly in the MA.
Hitech can model the B29 after LeMay's order removing the guns. That would be very reilistic, now wouldn't it...........
There are wind settings so you can have no wind at some alts and have wind at others. So how about turning on wind above 20k?
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F7F Tigercat and F8F Bearcat were too late to action in WWII.
Neither same for F4U-4B Corsair and F2G Super Corsair.
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Originally posted by JB73
i do not want to see the meteor, it didn't make it in time for the war.
i dont want to see the b29, because if i have heard right it only operated above the japanese defense capabilities (at least planes). if what i have heard is true we should only get it if HTC impliments a minium altitude of 35k to release bombs. otherwise all we will have is huge 200' AGL bombers killing themselves droping insaine ammounts of bombs to kill 1 panzer
i do not want to see the 4 cannon p51. it never saw combat, it was just a test plane, not an actual production platform.
I don't mind that you don't want em. Just get the facts straight please. 616 Squadron was operating Meteors from July 44. last I checked that was before the end of the war by a bit :)
There certainly were 4 cannon Allison engined P51s flying combat in the Med.
Found two photos right away. One with at least 77 mission symbols painted on it. Guess he missed the memo about not seeing combat :)
Dan/CorkyJr
edited to add an image of a combat 20mm armed P51
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1116570262_20mmp51.jpg)
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Originally posted by Guppy35
I don't mind that you don't want em. Just get the facts straight please. 616 Squadron was operating Meteors from July 44. last I checked that was before the end of the war by a bit :)
There certainly were 4 cannon Allison engined P51s flying combat in the Med.
Found two photos right away. One with at least 77 mission symbols painted on it. Guess he missed the memo about not seeing combat :)
Dan/CorkyJr
edited to add an image of a combat 20mm armed P51
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1116570262_20mmp51.jpg)
But that's only "test" combat ;)
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Originally posted by straffo
Let start a "what plane you want to be removed..."
I vote P51 :D
Because I don't know much I'll ask....why the P51? D, B, or both?
Woof
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Originally posted by SkyWolf
Because I don't know much I'll ask....why the P51? D, B, or both?
Woof
well I thought this one will piss a lot of people :D
No real reason anyway and I'm far from wanting to see a plane removed.
<= Aviation addict
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Plane I do NOT want to see? P39 (any variant).
Why? Because a vocal minority have been shouting for it for a while now, claiming "oh, it was so great, it'll do excellent down on the deck!" when if fact there will be a brief burst of use and then it will NEVER be used again. WBs was bad enough. Imagine the enhanced flight engine AH2 has. The thing will be a piece of s***.
I do not ever want to see it because we have so many other holes in the planeset, and a plane that will be put on the shelf a week after it is modeled isn't going to fill those holes any.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
IThere certainly were 4 cannon Allison engined P51s flying combat in the Med.
Found two photos right away. One with at least 77 mission symbols painted on it. Guess he missed the memo about not seeing combat :)
Dan/CorkyJr
edited to add an image of a combat 20mm armed P51
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1116570262_20mmp51.jpg)
Is vulching combat?
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are facials sex?
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Yes, vulching is combat. Chuck Yeager didn't have a problem with vulching when he shot down that 262 coming in for fuel in his 'stang. He also doesn't seem to hold a grudge against the 190 pilot that h.o.'d him.
To the point,wouldn't introducing any of the later model planes off-set the M.A. if they weren't perked? I myself have few fighter points, & am not that good a dogfighter...I think something like 30 planes shot down & 14 assists in nearly 150 sorties,but I would like to see as wide a range of aircraft (& G.V.'s) that Hi-Tech can introduce. Just have them perked accordingly, it doesn't matter to me what model of plane shoots me down.
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Plane I don't want? I don't want any nme plane on my 6 ever again
Why? Because I usually die soon after.
...yeah, that covers it! :D
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Originally posted by Krusty
Plane I do NOT want to see? P39 (any variant).
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I do not ever want to see it because we have so many other holes in the planeset, and a plane that will be put on the shelf a week after it is modeled isn't going to fill those holes any.
This one helps fill a hole in the Russian early war plane set rather well. It will be used by the Special Events teams, and I imagine the CT would not mind having it either.
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Originally posted by moot
are facials sex?
No, ahh nevah had "sexual" relations with that woman. :aok
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Originally posted by TracerX
This one helps fill a hole in the Russian early war plane set rather well. It will be used by the Special Events teams, and I imagine the CT would not mind having it either.
Frankly, the early Russian fighter were abysmal failures. Slow, underpowered guns packages, and unstable (In a bad way I mean). If you want early war VVS you need Mig1 or Yak1. Most of the lend-lease planes are already modeled, so just skin them and you're set.
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Originally posted by Krusty
If you want early war VVS you need Mig1 or Yak1. Most of the lend-lease planes are already modeled, so just skin them and you're set.
I agree. Yak1 to Yak3 would be nice. I was trying to point out that the P39 is kinda like making two birds since it was used so extensively in Russia early in the war. I think it was the most common lend lease plane to Russia? Thus, even if it is not a great plane, it fills a gap for at least a portion of the AH customers.