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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: Brenjen on May 25, 2005, 12:45:44 PM
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Can anyone explain how to use the sea mode setting to hit in ship vs. ship or shore battery to ship? I can use the land mode no problem, thanks to Azkhaz(sp?) But I still really blow at sea mode gunnery. Any "how to" advice out there to simplify this gunnery?
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Originally posted by Brenjen
Can anyone explain how to use the sea mode setting to hit in ship vs. ship or shore battery to ship? I can use the land mode no problem, thanks to Azkhaz(sp?) But I still really blow at sea mode gunnery. Any "how to" advice out there to simplify this gunnery?
I don't recommend the use of Sea Mode on ship vs ship, unless you're following directly behind or parallel to the other ship. Reason being that the gun aiming point constantly changes with your ship movement. Since the shore gun is stationary, I don't know what difference it would make... if you can even use sea mode there.
What I do is estimate the direction and range of the other ship and click on that spot on the map. Then I manually turn the gun to the correct direction (with estimated lead) and begin my ranging shots. Use of the F8 key can help to keep the enemy in view, especially in shore guns.
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Sea mode gunnery is technically the same as AA mode (the gun can move freely). The only difference is that in sea mode the gun will traverse extremely slowly to allow for precise adjustments in aim. You also get a little range display. Correct ranging and lead is still done manually.
Grizzly's method is a bit of a hackneyed way of using the guns ship-to-ship. :) It requires constant flipping back to the clipboard and doesn't teach you proper manual technique.
I think sea mode is preferable in most situations, but it does take a good deal of practice. You need to learn to "bracket" the enemy ships. That is, with your first few shots you should have identified a bracket of possible ranges for the enemy ships, that should get smaller and smaller with each additional shot until you start hitting. For example, watch for the splashes of your shots. If your first shot falls behind the enemy, shorten your range up considerably and fire again. Your next shot should fall short (or hit, in a perfect world), so that now you have two ranges, and you know the enemy lies between them. Keep repeating this, closing the gap between those two ranges, and eventually you will pinpoint the enemy and start landing hits.
It's not that easy, because you have to constantly estimate the relative velocity of the two ships and mentally update your ranges as time passes, and keep leading properly. You get better at this as you practice, and you get better at eyeballing ranges. Eventually you'll be landing shells within a few hundred yards on your first shot, if you keep at it enough.
Also, make sure to use the zoom key. When manning large caliber guns against distant ships, you should always be zoomed as far in as you possibly can while still keeping the enemy ships in your FOV, so that you can clearly see where your shells are landing.
For engaging shore batteries, you should use land mode, as they are static targets.
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I appreciate the replies & understand the info. thanks
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Originally posted by Ecliptik
Sea mode gunnery is technically the same as AA mode (the gun can move freely). The only difference is that in sea mode the gun will traverse extremely slowly to allow for precise adjustments in aim. You also get a little range display. Correct ranging and lead is still done manually.
Grizzly's method is a bit of a hackneyed way of using the guns ship-to-ship. :) It requires constant flipping back to the clipboard and doesn't teach you proper manual technique.
I don't know what you're talking about. I only need to click on the map once to set my initial range and azimuth. After that all adjustments are done manually. Perhaps you don't know it, but you can easily move the gun manually when in land mode also.
The main difference is that in sea mode your gun holds it's azimuth and distance in relation to your ship. So as your ship moves, so does your aiming point, compounding the deviation. Land mode always aims at the same point no matter how your ship moves, so as your ship gets closer, so does your aiming point, and vice versa. So all I have to correct for is the movement of the other ship without regard to my ships movement.
However, sea mode is better when the distance and range to the other ship is constant, such as when you are following him or sailing a parallel course.
I suggest folks try both methods and make up their own minds.
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I use land mode most often too. With land mode, I use my mouse cursor to mark where the first round fell while keeping the crosshairs trained over a certain part of the ship, or with a constant amount of lead. With the spot marked, I just put the mouse curser on the ship and estimate any change in range, and fire again. My lead is usually right on after the first shot, and I just have to worry about range. Once you hit, the only movement your gun has to do is follow the direction of travel of the ship you are shooting at. You can ignore your own ships movement since the gun automaticlly compensates for your own movements. I have hit and tracked enemy CV's at pretty long ranges using this method.
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Duluth? im from ashland working in Duluth>
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Originally posted by jon
Duluth? im from ashland working in Duluth>
I'll be dinged...there's three or four others from Duluth in AH too. I live in West Duluth on Cody Street. Where are you working?
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I am doing the restoration on the new powerline that is going into wisconsin by the oliver bridge.
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Originally posted by jon
I am doing the restoration on the new powerline that is going into wisconsin by the oliver bridge.
Well I hope all goes well and you enjoy your stay in Duluth. By sure to tour the place, it's quite a nice place. Check out the north shore and take some hiking trails, like up at the Baptism River. It's spectacular coutry!