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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gixer on May 25, 2005, 07:39:09 PM
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"The Bush administration has described a report by Amnesty International that accuses it of leading a decline in human rights standards, as ridiculous.
The human rights watchdog's annual report on human rights says the US sets the standard for other nations.
"The USA as the unrivalled political, military and economic hyper-power sets the tone for governmental behaviour worldwide," secretary-general Irene Khan said.
"When the most powerful country in the world thumbs its nose at the rule of law and human rights, it grants a licence to others to commit abuse with impunity."
White House spokesman Scott McClellan says the report is offensive.
"I think the allegations are ridiculous and unsupported by the facts," he said.
He says the US holds people who are accused of abuse.
"We do so in a very public way for the world to see that we lead by example and that we do have values that we hold very dearly and believe in," he said.
About 540 prisoners are held at a US detention centre in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Many have been there for three years without charge."
Unsupported by the facts? :lol
...-Gixer
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Amnesty doesn't have anything nice to say about NZ either Gixer. Maybe you should fix up our backyard before you start prodding the yanks ;)
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Amnesty doesn't have anything nice to say about NZ either Gixer. Maybe you should fix up our backyard before you start prodding the yanks ;)
Oh right, the Maoris and their grievencies?
:lol
What is it about NZ that they are unhappy with Vulcan?
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Gixer
Unsupported by the facts? :lol
...-Gixer
Facts???? I have yet to see one shred of FACT from any human rights group that supports this. They claim that "testimony" from a few released prisoners support their claims, like that's a reliable source.
In addition I see no facts put up by YOU either.
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Guantanamo Bay. There's fact number 1 or you could also go into the prisoner abuse in Iraq & Afghanistan. Or like Bush you just sit and deny any reports and put down the source as incorrect.
Funny how the US was able to take information from a well known con man and prisoner for information to support the war in Iraq but ignore anything else.
...-Gixer
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Gixer is a hypocrite, he'd rather slag off the US and show his love of murdering terrorist scum than clean up his own region: http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-2s5/index
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Originally posted by Gixer
Guantanamo Bay. There's fact number 1 or you could also go into the prisoner abuse in Iraq & Afghanistan. Or like Bush you just sit and deny any reports and put down the source as incorrect.
Funny how the US was able to take information from a well known con man and prisoner for information to support the war in Iraq but ignore anything else.
...-Gixer
Check your story Gixer. These groups are trying to flame the fire of the Gitmo story earlier last week. Iraq and Agghan abuse storys are years old and have been delt with (see: courts martials)
These guys are referring to Gitmo,in almost every major news article, based on interviews with former prisoners.
I still dont see these FACTS you were laughing over?
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Originally posted by Gixer
Guantanamo Bay. There's fact number 1 or you could also go into the prisoner abuse in Iraq & Afghanistan. Or like Bush you just sit and deny any reports and put down the source as incorrect.
Funny how the US was able to take information from a well known con man and prisoner for information to support the war in Iraq but ignore anything else.
...-Gixer
In case you haven't noticed we're a little busy to worry about a few prisoners we're holding..they will be charged or let go in due time.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Many have been there for three years without charge."
looks like AI is the only one who care about Guantanamo Bay "prisoners".
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Think Gixer is prepping for his interview for the Al Quaeda
public relations director. Anything he posts is sure to be anti-
US/Western, period.
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Originally posted by Vulcan
Gixer is a hypocrite, he'd rather slag off the US and show his love of murdering terrorist scum than clean up his own region: http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-2s5/index
Region Now? Before you said NZ which one is it?
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by ASTAC
In case you haven't noticed we're a little busy to worry about a few prisoners we're holding..they will be charged or let go in due time.
Outside the Geneva convention,held in secrecy, no lawyers,no courts,no rights? Just how long does it take? More of a modern day Gulag then a detention center.
...-Gixer
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I see you found your new masterbation material..
Seek help.
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gixer
maybe a hotel in ur hood will house the nice fellows for us eh? maybe you have a spare room for one or two
I am sure you'd be able to strike up many a anti-us conversation with the nice ppl we are so unfairly holdin in gitmo
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Originally posted by Gixer
Outside the Geneva convention,held in secrecy, no lawyers,no courts,no rights? Just how long does it take? More of a modern day Gulag then a detention center.
...-Gixer
Considering who we are fighting...how do you think our soldier would be treated? I think the detainees in GITMO are just fine.
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Gixer, go hump someone else's leg for a while, huh? We yanks are getting a little bored with little twits like you. You're becoming tiresome, and that's being generous.
By the way, you and Amnesty International should look a little deeper into the subject of enemy combatants with no declared country or uniform.
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not to mention you don't hear one word from them decrying the treatment of their "prisoners" (see kidnap victoms) or their heads when they are seperated from their bodies.
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Gixer is a tiresome fool.
Gixer ignores "facts" about Chinese human rights abuse and calls Americans uneducated regarding the matter. Gixer probaby thinks all the human rights complaints against countries he loves, like communist China and Vietnam, are complete lies.
Gixer KNOWS, and Americans are just ignorant about such things.
Instead, Gixer comes here and prods us Americans about human rights abuse.
Yeah, the US is leading the world in declining human rights. My bellybutton it is. Gixer needs a time out.
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Seems like Amnesty claims that New Zealand illegally detains asylum-seekers and even tortures them.
Let's play the amnesty game Gixer. Lets have a good hard look at New Zealand's human rights abuses.
You are a hypocrite just like Vulcan says.
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If Amnesty International wants it, I say pull ALL OF THE GRAIN FROM AFRICA. Let the rest rest of the world pick up the slack. We can feed our homeless with it.
Karaya
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Originally posted by NUKE
Seems like Amnesty claims that New Zealand illegally detains asylum-seekers and even tortures them.
Let's play the amnesty game Gixer. Lets have a good hard look at New Zealand's human rights abuses.
You are a hypocrite just like Vulcan says.
And you haven't a clue what your talking about your just going by what Vulcan says. :lol
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Originally posted by Gixer
And you haven't a clue what your talking about your just going by what Vulcan says. :lol
there you go assuming again.
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I sense Gixer to be banned soon.
Post unpatriotic things you should not.
The dark side, they will say has claimed you.
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Originally posted by Gixer
And you haven't a clue what your talking about your just going by what Vulcan says. :lol
I didn't mention any of the facts nuke posted gixer. Seems you've been outwitted by Nuke... how.... embarassing ;)
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What does rubbishes mean and what language is that ?
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I didn't mention any of the facts nuke posted gixer. Seems you've been outwitted by Nuke... how.... embarassing ;)
If I were poor, ignorant Gixer, I'd get rid of my signature. It only serves to validate my point every time he tries to "argue" with me. He's pretty dim.
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Originally posted by Gixer
Unsupported by the facts? :lol
...-Gixer
Give us the real facts as only New Zealand can get them :lol
Then explain how Amnesty International sites New Zealand for illegally locking up asylum seekers and torturing them. :lol
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Originally posted by NUKE
Give us the real facts as only New Zealand can get them :lol
Then explain how Amnesty International sites New Zealand for illegally locking up asylum seekers and torturing them. :lol
Are you refering to this:
"We are very concerned, in particular, about the imprisonment of a man who the authorities apparently know bears marks consistent with torture on his body," Australia-South Pacific Researcher Heinz Schürmann-Zeggel said from the human rights organization's London headquarters. "For a person who has fled from torture , being in prison often means re-living the trauma
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA320011999?open&of=ENG-2S5
If that's the origin of your allegation that NZ tortures asylum seekers, you are wrong. NZ is too liberal. You better stick with the sheep insults.
Excel
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WTG President Bush! While I'm at it I recommend a pre-emptive nuclear strike on the green peace and the removal of the united nations from our hallowed shores and relocation to a more appropriate spot.
there was a foot race. which of the the following runners won?
the easter bunny
santa clause
the tooth fairey
the intelligent, unemotional liberal
the liberal
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Originally posted by Excel1
Are you refering to this:
http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGASA320011999?open&of=ENG-2S5
If that's the origin of your allegation that NZ tortures asylum seekers, you are wrong. NZ is too liberal. You better stick with the sheep insults.
Excel
nope, was not refering to that, but that's pretty alarming! I can't believe New Zealand could do such a thing.
As long as Gixer has a hard on for the US, I am going to counter his dumb ass. If he gets banned, then all will be well.
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Many have been there for three years without charge."
...-Gixer [/B]
Yea, we should just chop their heads off on national TV one at a time as a ransom for the attacks on U.S. troops . Stop it or chop it. That would be much more humaniatarian.
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I wish you guys would stop feeding the trolls. It just makes them bigger and uglier.
The people who are choosing to ignore the forum rules are getting tiresome.