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Title: Zekes
Post by: jetb123 on May 26, 2005, 10:38:29 PM
Yesterday i was in a h2h arena. In a FFA room and everybody there was flying zekes. I find that hitting a zeke almost 50% of the time it catches fire. I thought i recorded it but i guess not. ANybody else having this problem?
Title: Zekes
Post by: SuperDud on May 26, 2005, 10:51:58 PM
Well you mix paper and fuel and thats the result I would expect:p
Title: Zekes
Post by: Kweassa on May 27, 2005, 01:25:00 AM
Zekes are relatively 'unarmoured' in its vital areas, and a probability of penetration to the fuel tanks which might ignite it is pretty high.

 I'd say it's not particularly a 'problem' but a 'feature' by itself.
Title: Zekes
Post by: pellik on May 27, 2005, 12:29:42 PM
I think if the round penetrates the tank from the right angle all that fuel burning and shooting out should cause the zeke to go really really fast until it explodes. Maybe it wouldn't be the most realistic effect but damn would it be fun.
Title: Re: Zekes
Post by: Drano on May 27, 2005, 03:25:55 PM
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Originally posted by jetb123
Yesterday i was in a h2h arena. In a FFA room and everybody there was flying zekes. I find that hitting a zeke almost 50% of the time it catches fire. I thought i recorded it but i guess not. ANybody else having this problem?


They didn't call them "rice paper fire traps" for nothin. Seriously--they did.

 Drano
Title: Zekes
Post by: HavocTM on June 01, 2005, 03:42:00 PM
(http://www.pp.okstate.edu/ehs/MODULES/exting/firetri.gif)
Title: Zekes
Post by: Ohio43 on June 02, 2005, 09:09:31 AM
Ya, its not an AH2 problem.  They just modelled it correctly.  Zeke's are explosions waiting to happen.
Title: Zekes
Post by: Soda on June 02, 2005, 11:32:41 AM
Anyone else notice how long a Zeke can burn before it explodes/breaks-up?  Is it just me or does it seem to last longer on fire than almost any other aircraft in the game?  I know I was using one for base defense a while ago and got set ablaze, managed to actually dogfight the enemy while on fire and kill him, land and exit, but the plane never actually came apart on me.  Strange.

-Soda
Title: Zekes
Post by: BTW on June 02, 2005, 11:42:03 AM
Yea, it makes you wonder how much paper they use :D
Title: Zekes
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 02, 2005, 12:04:18 PM
Its not the paper.  The flames happen when you make the pilot drop his sake cup, spilling it on the outside of his plane.  A spark ignites it, and of course the alcohol has to burn off before it really "catches" in the paper.
Title: Zekes
Post by: jthemenway on June 03, 2005, 10:13:53 AM
I've read accounts of P38 pilots who said that Zekes would burn and or expload after only a few rounds. This was a nasty surprise for one gent who (as I read it) transferred to ETO to give 38 squadrons some experienced leadership. His first encounter with a german, he pumped in a few rounds and then let off waiting for the fire. He recounted that he was very shocked when that did not happen :)
Title: paper airplain
Post by: SixWhiskey on June 03, 2005, 04:40:50 PM
For the few who do not know:

The Zero was a wood and fabric airplane.
Title: Re: paper airplain
Post by: Oldman731 on June 03, 2005, 08:24:49 PM
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Originally posted by SixWhiskey
For the few who do not know:

The Zero was a wood and fabric airplane.

I think there are more than a few who do not know that.

- oldman
Title: Zekes
Post by: BTW on June 03, 2005, 09:24:59 PM
And paper is not a fabric?
Title: Re: paper airplain
Post by: Widewing on June 04, 2005, 12:13:15 AM
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Originally posted by SixWhiskey
For the few who do not know:

The Zero was a wood and fabric airplane.


Gee, someone should have told Mitsubishi sooner, those idiots were building them out of aluminum! Just think how much money they could have saved if they had made the wings from wood and fabric instead of aluminum spars, ribs and stressed aluminum skin.

:rolleyes:

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Re: paper airplain
Post by: SuperDud on June 04, 2005, 02:17:04 AM
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Originally posted by SixWhiskey
For the few who do not know:

The Zero was a wood and fabric airplane.



It's just a saying around these parts. It burns so easy, hence...just like paper:)
Title: Re: Re: paper airplain
Post by: SixWhiskey on June 04, 2005, 02:53:00 AM
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Originally posted by Widewing
Gee, someone should have told Mitsubishi sooner, those idiots were building them out of aluminum! Just think how much money they could have saved if they had made the wings from wood and fabric instead of aluminum spars, ribs and stressed aluminum skin.

:rolleyes:

My regards,

Widewing


Duralumin to be precise.  The problem was the fuel tanks, which were not self-sealing.  

Their flight decks, however, really were wood, which is why we won Midway.  Superior damage control techniques and steel ships.  (Tactics aside.)
Title: Re: Re: Re: paper airplain
Post by: Oldman731 on June 04, 2005, 09:35:17 AM
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Originally posted by SixWhiskey
Their flight decks, however, really were wood, which is why we won Midway.  Superior damage control techniques and steel ships.  (Tactics aside.)

Our flight decks were wood, too.  Only the British had armored decks on their carriers.

- oldman
Title: Zekes
Post by: nn76240 on June 04, 2005, 12:56:05 PM
Yes I belived they used teek and coated them with a special paint to keep planes from slipping.
Title: Zekes
Post by: DoctorYO on June 06, 2005, 12:25:38 PM
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I find that hitting a zeke almost 50% of the time it catches fire


This is why you must follow japanese philosophy and develope Zanshin awareness and not get hit...

The zeke is one of the most dangerous aircraft in the game in 1 vs 1's where its not overwhelmed by numbers..

It can dodge any attack thru geometry and awareness..  (yes including spit 5's)



DoctorYo
Title: Zekes
Post by: Arcades057 on June 06, 2005, 03:55:41 PM
The Zeke has become my favorite fighter and is helping me improve my flying, as I survive a bit longer.
Title: Zekes
Post by: BTW on June 06, 2005, 06:25:19 PM
I like to fly the zeke, I just don't like the ammo.
Its really hard to kill anything with them unless they let you.

Its seems like AH mimicks real life. If it taste good, you shouldn't eat it. If its fun to fly you shouldn't fly it.  We humans... :D

I wanna die of high cholesterol in a spit..
Title: Re: Re: Re: paper airplain
Post by: jon on June 07, 2005, 07:27:09 PM
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Their flight decks, however, really were wood, which is why we won Midway.  Superior damage control techniques and steel ships.  (Tactics aside.) [/B]

The US ships were steel yes but so were the Japanese ships and also the US ships were also equiped with wooden flight decks. But I do believe the Brits had armored decks.