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Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: eskimo2 on May 28, 2005, 12:45:53 PM
My wife and I watched this movie last night.  We’re not into fast-food, eating out or pigging out and are kids eat pretty healthy foods. “Supersize Me”, however, still made us think about what we eat and what it does to our bodies.  I highly recommend watching it even if you think that you are not at risk; the facts and statistics were amazing.  I’d like to see this become a standards film for high school health/P.E. classes.

eskimo
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: beet1e on May 28, 2005, 01:14:16 PM
Hi Eskimo.

I watched that movie, and it made me feel ill. I couldn't watch it a second time! I've only been to McDonalds 2-3 times in my entire life. My mother always used to say that she never worried about what I ate because I naturally liked to eat things that were good.

And though we sometimes poke fun at "fat Americans" during Euro/US bashing threads, I actually feel concerned for those compulsive eaters who find themselves surrounded by fattening food which is cheap and available 24/7 and cannot stop themselves from pigging out.
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Post by: eskimo2 on May 28, 2005, 01:27:31 PM
America certainly has become the blubber Mecca of the world, but the problem is quickly becoming international.

eskimo
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Post by: FUNKED1 on May 28, 2005, 02:16:51 PM
Let's sue McDonalds for making people fat!
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: eskimo2 on May 28, 2005, 02:27:16 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Let's sue McDonalds for making people fat!


That's one of the movie's subjects.

eskimo
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Post by: Callisto on May 28, 2005, 02:28:54 PM
After watching supersize me, it made me want to grab double quarter pounder supersized combo..which i did. :)
Crazy isnt it?
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Post by: Gunslinger on May 28, 2005, 02:32:02 PM
eating nothing but crap and drinking lots of soda will do bad things to your body wether at Mc "D's" or at your home.
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Post by: vorticon on May 28, 2005, 02:43:30 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
eating nothing but crap and drinking lots of soda will do bad things to your body wether at Mc "D's" or at your home.


but it WILL taste better at home...
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Post by: Gunslinger on May 28, 2005, 03:05:41 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon
but it WILL taste better at home...


not allways.  My wife can't cook Taco Bell for nothin  ;)
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Post by: _Ro_ on May 28, 2005, 03:28:40 PM
Good post Eskimo

In the last 5 years I have been going back to the land of my Grandfather (Hu), and in that time frame i have seen the American fast food industry slowly creep into Central Europe.

Although I haven't see the movie you mention, I can only imagine the content.  We as Americans are pathetically over-weight as a country.

We live to much on convenience. Were as most Europeans don't even own a microwave. All food for the days meal are bought fresh and prepared the same day.

Had a bet with a friend that was going to Central Europe, if he could take 5 pictures of 5 fat women in Europe he'd win the bet. (advised him not to sneak to Wal-mart and take pics here) Anway, he coildn't do it, as a matter of fact he was shocked to how "well" ppl look compared to how ppl look here in the states.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/defaultframe.html
I guess give it time, McD's will ruin another countries health.
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Post by: vorticon on May 28, 2005, 03:40:51 PM
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
not allways.  My wife can't cook Taco Bell for nothin  ;)


that dont say much for her cooking skills.
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Post by: Gixer on May 28, 2005, 04:34:21 PM
I've never understood why people like McDonalds,KFC etc. Always thought it's the most tasteless,processed muck you can buy. Even as a kid I never liked it.



...-Gixer
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Gunslinger on May 28, 2005, 04:51:51 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
I've never understood why people like McDonalds,KFC etc. Always thought it's the most tasteless,processed muck you can buy. Even as a kid I never liked it.



...-Gixer


cause it's fast, relatively cheap, and somone else has to make it.
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Post by: Thrawn on May 28, 2005, 05:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
I've never understood why people like McDonalds,KFC etc. Always thought it's the most tasteless,processed muck you can buy. Even as a kid I never liked it.



It's not tasteless at all.  Heck it's engineered to be some of the best tasting "food" around.
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Post by: Callisto on May 28, 2005, 05:30:50 PM
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Originally posted by Gixer
I've never understood why people like McDonalds,KFC etc. Always thought it's the most tasteless,processed muck you can buy. Even as a kid I never liked it.



...-Gixer



Fastest and most convenient way to get food when hungry and in rush(or lazy to cook ).
Title: Re: Supersize Me.
Post by: Vulcan on May 28, 2005, 08:15:37 PM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
My wife and I watched this movie last night.  We’re not into fast-food, eating out or pigging out and are kids eat pretty healthy foods. “Supersize Me”, however, still made us think about what we eat and what it does to our bodies.  I highly recommend watching it even if you think that you are not at risk; the facts and statistics were amazing.  I’d like to see this become a standards film for high school health/P.E. classes.

eskimo


You mean the movie where a guy who's been on a vegan diet for most of his life suddenly switches to meat products with high fat content and wonders why his body can't handle it.

Put this into perspective and wonder how many of the "facts" in this movie were indeed facts.

I'm not saying eating nothing but fastfood is good for you, but this "movie" contains a lot of facts they fail to present to you ;)
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Post by: Maverick on May 28, 2005, 08:24:58 PM
Is this another of moore's documentaries???
Title: Re: Re: Supersize Me.
Post by: eskimo2 on May 28, 2005, 10:06:32 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
You mean the movie where a guy who's been on a vegan diet for most of his life suddenly switches to meat products with high fat content and wonders why his body can't handle it.

Put this into perspective and wonder how many of the "facts" in this movie were indeed facts.

I'm not saying eating nothing but fastfood is good for you, but this "movie" contains a lot of facts they fail to present to you ;)


Did a clown in a big yellow suit tell you that?  LOL, just watch the movie for yourself and decide what's true.

eskimo
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: eskimo2 on May 28, 2005, 10:19:53 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Is this another of moore's documentaries???


Is Moore 6’2” and about 185 lbs?  There’s no Republican or Democrat side to his issue, but fear this documentary if you must.

eskimo
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Post by: Maverick on May 28, 2005, 10:26:08 PM
I don't fear documentaries. I also don't let people make my mind up for me.

Anything can be abused. You are supposed to be aware of what you do and eat. If they can't figure it out on thier own perhaps they deserve to be overweight. People cannot be protected from themselves, they need to be responsible for themselves.
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Post by: Hangtime on May 28, 2005, 10:31:27 PM
Ummm.. tasty.

I'll have a Big mac, 1/4lbder w/cheese, Filet of fish. No Fries. large coke.

*buurrrrppp*

Notice I placed order. No weapons were involved. I did not make the pickup under duress.

If yah don't take care of the 'machine' and abuse it without proper maintenance, the freakin machine will have a short service life and fail suddenly. The body is a machine.. so why are folks surpised when the look in the mirror and see porky the fat assed pig lookin back at 'em? Why are they shocked when their corpulent hams pack it in and won't function anymore? If yah don't wanna be fat, and get get fat eatin 'crap' because yah don't 'do maintenance' exercises; don't eat crap.

What are you guys fishin for... a law outlawing fast food?

When the hell are people gonna start taking responsibility for THEIR actions, and quit 'blaming' others for their own stupidity, lack of will and big saggy man-tits??

You, FATSO... PUT...THE.. BURGER... DOWN!! STEP AWAY FROM THE TABLE!   Say, mind if i finish that?

bedeya, bedeya, bedeys, thats all folks!
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Post by: Ripsnort on May 28, 2005, 10:34:40 PM
Haven't seen the movie, but personally I know how Maci-D's makes me feel if I consume it 24 hours prior to strenuous excercise, therefore I avoid it.

Here is my old fashioned opinion, too much of ANY food (or 'thing' for that matter) is bad for you.

This thread has some interesting perspectives regarding the movie.
http://forum.objectivismonline.net/lofiversion/index.php/t981.html
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Post by: eskimo2 on May 28, 2005, 10:46:52 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
I don't fear documentaries. I also don't let people make my mind up for me.

Anything can be abused. You are supposed to be aware of what you do and eat. If they can't figure it out on thier own perhaps they deserve to be overweight. People cannot be protected from themselves, they need to be responsible for themselves.


The director asks the same question as a point to ponder.  If you’d watch the flick before making assumptions about it you’d also see that he questions the absurdity of suing companies such as McDonalds for making us fat.  Watching his show however, does increase the viewer’s awareness of what fast food can do to you.  The closest he comes to “attacking” anything is our nation’s school lunch programs; watch the show and find out why.  If this film has a purpose, it is to wake us up, not to make up our minds for us or to outlaw fast food.

From his website: http://www.supersizeme.com/

“Morgan Spurlock, producer/director/guinea pig of Super Size Me, was sitting on the couch at his childhood home in West Virginia on Thanksgiving 2002, stuffed with turkey and all the fixings, when the concept behind Super Size Me came to him.

"I was so full and was watching the news when a story about the two girls suing McDonald's came on the TV. I immediately called Scott (Ambrozy, Director of Photography) and told him the idea. When he finished laughing, he said 'That's a really great bad idea.' By the time I got back to New York, we were already in pre-production on it."”

Major points are:

Each day, 1 in 4 Americans visits a fast food restaurant
 In 1972, we spent 3 billion a year on fast food - today we spend more than 110 billion
 McDonald's feeds more than 46 million people a day - more than the entire population of Spain
 French fries are the most eaten vegetable in America
 You would have to walk for seven hours straight to burn off a Super Sized Coke, fry and Big Mac
 In the U.S., we eat more than 1,000,000 animals an hour
 60 % of all Americans are either overweight or obese
 One in every three children born in the year 2000 will develop diabetes in their lifetime
 Left unabated, obesity will surpass smoking as the leading cause of preventable death in America
 Obesity has been linked to: Hypertension, Coronary Heart Disease, Adult Onset Diabetes, Stroke, Gall Bladder Disease, Osteoarthritis, Sleep Apnea, Respiratory Problems, Endometrial, Breast, Prostate and Colon Cancers, Dyslipidemia, steatohepatitis, insulin resistance, breathlessness, Asthma, Hyperuricaemia, reproductive hormone abnormalities, polycystic ovarian syndrome, impaired fertility and lower back pain
 The average child sees 10,000 TV advertisements per year
 Only seven items on McDonald's entire menu contain no sugar
 Willard Scott was the first Ronald McDonald - he was fired for being too fat
 McDonald's distributes more toys per year than Toys-R-Us
 Diabetes will cut 17-27 years off your life
 McDonald's: "Any processing our foods undergo make them more dangerous than unprocessed foods"
 The World Health Organization has declared obesity a global epidemic
 Eating fast food may be dangerous to your health
 McDonald's calls people who eat a lot of their food "Heavy Users"
 McDonald's operates more than 30,000 restaurants in more then 100 countries on 6 continents
 Before most children can speak they can recognize McDonald's
 Surgeon General David Satcher: "Fast food is a major contributor to the obesity epidemic"
 Most nutritionists recommend not eating fast food more than once a month
 40% of American meals are eaten outside the home
 McDonald's represents 43% of total U.S. fast food market

eskimo
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Hangtime on May 28, 2005, 11:10:43 PM
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In the U.S., we eat more than 1,000,000 animals an hour


I discussed this with my cats.

Does wonders for their attitudes.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Supersize Me.
Post by: Vulcan on May 28, 2005, 11:21:32 PM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Did a clown in a big yellow suit tell you that?  LOL, just watch the movie for yourself and decide what's true.

eskimo


Or maybe you should pull your head out of your backside and try thinking for yourself instead of letting other people do it for you... you ever think this guy might have an agenda, him and his  VEGAN CHEF GIRLFRIEND

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Supersize Me Director Goes Vegan on New TV Show
The Sun Newspaper Online - UK's biggest selling newspaper: "SUPER SIZE ME director and star Morgan Spurlock is set to front a new reality TV series which challenges people to spend 30 days in very demanding circumstances.
The award-winning documentary maker, who spent 30 days eating nothing but McDonald's fast food for his hit breakout film, will host 30 Days on America's FX network.
Among the 30-day challenges, Morgan will switch careers with his fiancee, a vegan chef, and spend a month trying to live on minimum wage."
 


Jesus eskimo never picked you for being so uninformed.
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Post by: Thrawn on May 28, 2005, 11:39:39 PM
I highly recommend everyone read this excellant book if interested in the fast food industry.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/sim-explorer/explore-items/-/0060938455/0/101/1/none/purchase/ref%3Dpd%5Fsxp%5Fr0/103-6677831-4583010
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Post by: tapakeg on May 29, 2005, 01:48:15 AM
well, i'ts only relevant to Mc Donalds, not any other fast food like Taco bell, wich is as authentic Mexican food as you can get.

























and yes,    i'm kidding

Tapakeg
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Post by: flakbait on May 29, 2005, 04:20:52 AM
I worked fast food as my first real job. Some of the things you witness as an employee really make you shake your head. Especially after seeing what gets shoveled into the grease trap on the grill. Some of the more interesting occurances were...

The 400 lbs mother of two ordering the 1/4 lbs slab of grease err burger and making a scene because "you forgot my double-extra onions!"

The 5' 4" 240lbs soccer mom ordering two of the biggest cheeseburgers available ANYWHERE (one pounders) for herself. Yet demanding fat-free dressing for the side salad and extra salt on the mongo fries.

Ordering a gardenburger and being an idiot by telling the register-jockey "that better not be cooked in the same area as beef! I'm a vegan!" Then following that up by asking for a shake the size of a milk jug.

Asking for a pair of large fries and three double cheeseburgers, yet saying "I want low-fat cheese on those." Yeah, as if low-fat cheese will off-set the two pounds of sizzling grease you're about to digest.

Tormenting the poor guy behind the counter about your diet, while ordering a bacon cheeseburger with extra everything.

Going back for a 5th soda refill.

Whining about the amount of time your order is taking while the whole place is flooded with people. Especially when the joint is short-handed.

Driving back through the drive-through in order to yell at the girl working because you forgot to order something.

Ditto for yanking an employee aside, who didn't take your order, to lambast him/her about how something you never ordered failed to show up.

And my personal favorite: using the drive-through while driving drunk, then trying to sue the place because we called the cops on your plastered butt.

My second-favorite being the proverbial nit-picker who orders nine items, all of which have to be modified extensively. Upon having this massive shopping list read back, they say its all wrong and have to start over again.


Nearly all of the folks I worked with back then would brown-bag it if they had a long shift. Only two ordered anything for lunch while working, and that was universally the fish-n-chips. Occasionally they'd order fries as a snack, but not often. Some of the combo items customers ordered, though, would utterly amaze you. Who ever heard of a strawberry shake going with a triple-beef burger and a veggie-salad? These days, the closest I get to fast food is the Domino's guy dumping off a pair of pepperoni pizzas once a month. After serving that stuff for the better part of a year, I will not eat at a fast-food joint.



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Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Suave on May 29, 2005, 04:40:46 AM
Yeah everybody knows McDonalds is bad for you. I'm just surprised that it will kill you so fast.

He started going into liver failure after 2 weeks of eating only McDonalds if I remember correctly.

The weight gain was dramatic also.


But then there was that skinny weirdo who supposedly ate multiple big Macs everyday. I'd be surprised if that dude still had his gallbladder.
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Post by: rpm on May 29, 2005, 04:55:04 AM
I did almost the same thing in 1977. I was working in Houston for the summer and there was a McDonald's close to where I was working. I had breakfast, lunch and dinner there for a month. I got so fat and sick of McD's that I can hardly eat there anymore.
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Post by: Gh0stFT on May 29, 2005, 04:57:09 AM
ive never seen that movie, but i can give you a good advise
everything from the friteuse(sp?) is bad for your health if you eat
it on a daily base. The fat will kill your blood very soon.
On the other side, fresh burgers from grill with fresh vegetables
will for sure not kill you.

i often eat at Mc Donalds, but we also make our meals at home
mainly with fresh products only.
And no i'm absolute not fat, but thats not because what i eat
its what i do in my spare time (ie. not sitting around the whole
day without any move ;)

what i would want to know is, the fat people in the US, i doubt
they where born that fat, where is the self-discipline?

R
Gh0stFT
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Post by: _Ro_ on May 29, 2005, 05:06:22 AM
there is no discipline, too easy for Americans to go to the corner for fast food.

and no they were not born that way.......comes from lazy/too busy parents that don't even know what the kitchen looks like.

And it also starts at the school.....I was shocked at what the cafateria at my sons school feeds them....ALL crap......he takes his lunch now.
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Post by: beet1e on May 29, 2005, 05:07:36 AM
The key is balance. I can enjoy English fish and chips once in a while, but I wouldn't eat that (or anything else) every single day.
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Post by: thrila on May 29, 2005, 05:25:04 AM
I've never been one for fast food.  If i'm hungry i'll buy a pasty.
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Post by: Suave on May 29, 2005, 05:34:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Gh0stFT
ive never seen that movie, but i can give you a good advise
everything from the friteuse(sp?) is bad for your health if you eat
it on a daily base. The fat will kill your blood very soon.
On the other side, fresh burgers from grill with fresh vegetables
will for sure not kill you.

i often eat at Mc Donalds, but we also make our meals at home
mainly with fresh products only.
And no i'm absolute not fat, but thats not because what i eat
its what i do in my spare time (ie. not sitting around the whole
day without any move ;)

what i would want to know is, the fat people in the US, i doubt
they where born that fat, where is the self-discipline?

R
Gh0stFT


I don't think it's about self discipline. A normal person with a sedentary lifestyle who isn't grossly exceeding his daily caloric requirements won't become obese. It's about overeating, you have to make a deliberate effort to overeat, it's not a normal or natural thing to do.

In fact if you were brought up working class american as I was. Eating food because it tastes good, is something reserved for hollidays. I think the problem might lie within the american ethos of industry. You get up and eat a big breakfast so that you can be a productive worker. Then on your 30 minute lunch break you take on more fuel. When you got home you try to eat all of what the women have put on the table. You tell the children to finish their food, clean their plate, I don't care if you don't like it, it's not about taste, you don't waste food, that's decadent.
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Post by: Saintaw on May 29, 2005, 05:44:00 AM
I just ate two "Royal cheese" with fries and mayo :D

_Ro_ that must have been a while ago.... plenty of fat pple here too.
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Post by: _Ro_ on May 29, 2005, 06:01:48 AM
i was speaking mainly of Central Europe, Hungary, Serbia and western Romania.....hard to find fat people there.

Although i will say that Budapest has one of the most beautiful McDonalds in the world. In the old waiting room at the train station at Nyugati pu.
http://www.edelstahl-studio.de/Objekte_/MCDonalds_Budapest/mcdonalds_budapest.html
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Post by: lazs2 on May 29, 2005, 08:54:26 AM
keep banning stuff and eventually they will get around to something you like a lot.

I eat fast food about once a month if you include pizza.

Beetle is a lot fatter than me.

lazs
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Post by: Vulcan on May 29, 2005, 09:23:29 AM
Wierd thing about McDonalds is I couldn't get over how so many (foreign) people would bag it. I eat McD's maybe once or twice a week. Then I travalled overseas a few times, and couldn't believe how bad McDonalds is in other countries.

Australia was my worst experience (Melbourne). Their Big Mac beef tasted like some sort of roadkill with cigarette butts mixed in, the lettuce was more like some ancient sourkraut shoved between a couple of stale buns.

McDonalds in NZ is something to behold... the McD's around the corner from where I live actually produces Big Mac's that look like the ones in promotion photos. The beef patties are delicious, with fresh lettuce, fresh buns, everything is tasty. The only thing that pisses me off about McDonalds NZ is they withdrew the kiwi burger (think Big Mac + Egg + Beetroot + Tomato) and replaced it with "The Boss".

Yes its still fast food, no I wouldn't eat it day after day for a month, but it is quite enjoyable.

KFC on the other hand is usually a lesson in food poisoning...
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Post by: Callisto on May 29, 2005, 10:30:28 AM
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Originally posted by _Ro_
i was speaking mainly of Central Europe, Hungary, Serbia and western Romania.....hard to find fat people there.

Although i will say that Budapest has one of the most beautiful McDonalds in the world. In the old waiting room at the train station at Nyugati pu.
http://www.edelstahl-studio.de/Objekte_/MCDonalds_Budapest/mcdonalds_budapest.html


Cuz most people are broke there, most of then cant afford Mcdonalds. Years of commie rule  tought  them to save money and manage their money well.

In those countries, for a price of MCdees Cheeseburger or 2, you can get a whole chiken in grocrery store.  And of course whole drive tru fast food thing hasnt really cought on.
when you order  coke or some pop (in bars), you get a small .25L bottle . And refills are not free. Also pop servings are in EU mcdees is less then in US.
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Post by: Maverick on May 29, 2005, 11:24:34 AM
Eskimo,

Please quote the point where I made any assumptions based on the film. Please let me know where I said anything in the film was fictitious, bogus or correct.

You are making inferences for things I did not state or imply. Your problem not mine.
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Post by: Jackal1 on May 29, 2005, 11:28:26 AM
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Originally posted by lazs2

Beetle is a lot fatter than me.

lazs


Yea, but he`s gotta stay up to "fighting weight". :)
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Post by: MrLars on May 29, 2005, 11:31:13 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Ummm.. tasty.

I'll have a Big mac, 1/4lbder w/cheese, Filet of fish. No Fries. large coke.

*buurrrrppp*




Big Mac:

Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 sandwich (215.0g)
 
Amount Per Serving
Calories 576Calories from Fat 292
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 32.5g50%
Saturated Fat 12.0g60%
Polyunsaturated Fat 2.8g
Monounsaturated Fat 14.1g
Cholesterol 103mg34%
Sodium 742mg31%
Total Carbohydrates 38.7g13%
Protein 31.8g
 
Vitamin A 1% • Vitamin C 2%
Calcium 9% • Iron 31%
 
Nutritional Units 14
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet

1/4 Pounder w/ cheese:

 
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 sandwich (199.0g)
 
Amount Per Serving
Calories 540Calories from Fat 261
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 29.0g45%
Saturated Fat 13.0g65%
Cholesterol 95mg32%
Sodium 1240mg52%
Total Carbohydrates 39.0g13%
Dietary Fiber 3.0g12%
Sugars 9.0g
Protein 29.0g
 
Vitamin A 2% • Vitamin C 5%
Calcium 30% • Iron 19%
 
Nutritional Units 13
* Based on a 2000 calorie diet

Fish Sandwich:

Amount per 1 sandwich  

Calories:
430.9 kcal
 
Water 74.81 g
Carbohydrate (37%) 41.02 g
Protein (16%) 16.94 g
Total Fat (46%) 22.77 g
   Monounsaturated 7.69 g
   Polyunsaturated 8.25 g
   Saturated 5.23 g
Cholesterol 55.3 mg
Dietary Fibre 0 g
Alcohol (0%) 0 g
 
Vitamins  
Vitamin A 109.02 IU
Thiamin 0.33 mg
Riboflavin 0.22 mg
Niacin 3.4 mg
Pantothenic acid 0.58 mg
Vitamin B6 0.11 mg
Folate 85.32 mcg
Vitamin B12 1.07 mcg
Vitamin C 2.84 mg
Vitamin E 0.87 mg ATE
 
Minerals  
Calcium 83.74 mg
Iron 2.61 mg
Magnesium 33.18 mg
Phosphorus 211.72 mg
Potassium 339.7 mg
Sodium 614.62 mg
Zinc 1 mg
Copper 0.19 mg
   
Large Coke:

Coca-Cola® Classic (Large)§ 32 fl oz cup 310 calories

So, a total of 1856 calories is healthy for one meal?

My gripe with fast food is that consumers generaly have no idea just how calorie and fat laden this food is. I would wish that they be required to print nutrition info in the wrapers of their products so that finding this info would be easier.
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Post by: lazs2 on May 29, 2005, 11:36:43 AM
so what?  If it were the only real meal of the day and the rest was snacking on fruits and beggetables or lean meat... and the person got off their fat bellybutton to move around a little..

the meal would work just fine.

lazs
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Post by: Maverick on May 29, 2005, 11:38:49 AM
Printing the info (warings) you suggest about calories and so on would have the same impact as the warning about cancer printed on cigarette packs. In order for it to be effective the reader has to give a damn. If they did they wouldn't be using the product or using it to excess. Again, it's about responsibility for ones self, or kids in the case of parents.
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Post by: lazs2 on May 29, 2005, 11:43:45 AM
not sure there would be room on the package after all the langueages were given equal representation.

Perhaps we should all just move back in with mom and get nutricious meals since we are incapable of making decisions on our own.

lazs
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Post by: Meatwad on May 29, 2005, 12:01:50 PM
That title made me hungry, think I will go to McDonalds and get a Big N Tasty value meal.
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Post by: eskimo2 on May 29, 2005, 12:19:32 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Eskimo,

Please quote the point where I made any assumptions based on the film. Please let me know where I said anything in the film was fictitious, bogus or correct.

You are making inferences for things I did not state or imply. Your problem not mine.


If I had made a documentary such as this, I would be pretty insulted if someone confused me or my film with Moore.  Obviously you haven’t seen it, but are you telling me that you honestly thought that it was a Moore film, or was it a jab?

eskimo
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Hangtime on May 29, 2005, 12:31:23 PM
"Fat, Drunk and Stupid is no way to go thru life son..."

...Dean Wormer

On the plus side; Micky D's tends to produce the most magnificent dumps.. truly a religious experience packin that stuff inta the china clipper the next morning.

It's all about satisfaction. I eat it I'm satisfied. I crap it, I'm satisfied. If the 'worst' meal of the weak results in the best dump in recent memory, hey; who am I to challenge postive results from negative input.

;)
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Maverick on May 29, 2005, 01:01:23 PM
Eskimo,

It was a jab you dweeb!!  :p
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: straffo on May 29, 2005, 04:13:28 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
I just ate two "Royal cheese" with fries and mayo :D

_Ro_ that must have been a while ago.... plenty of fat pple here too.


J'en suis sur maintenant tu es PD !
Ou alors tu ne le sais pas encore et tu vas le devenir !

btw calling McD production food is an insult to the poor animals who gave their life for us.
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Drunky on May 29, 2005, 06:07:49 PM
I'm concerned that people are either surprised or unaware of a lot of facts.  Not limited to, but also not restricted from, the AH OC.

Yes, fast food is not entirely 'healthy' food.  Sort of like smoking is physically addictive.  You shouldn't have to be told it, it should be common sense from emperical evidence.

Fast food is inexpensive and....well, 'fast'.  You don't have to cook it, just wait in a relatively short line.

On the whole, American's neither excercise enough nor eat the proper foods (see food pyramid).


America is a relatively wealthy country.  Fast food is plentiful, fast, and inexpensive.  Americans are not forced to hard labor in order to survive.  Americans are also complacent about excercise.  Surprise, surprise...most Americans are fat.

Side note:  It's not really McD's fault and it's sad that some parents tried to sue McD's because their kids were fat.  They were the parents who are in charge of what their kids ate, they drove them or provided McD's meals, they provided the money, and they probably allowed their kids to stay inside and play video games or watch movies instead of getting enough excercise.

Sadly, I think it's a cultural thing.  Sort of like a rocket when the fuel runs out, the rockets momentum will still carry it up for a while but it will eventually slow, stop, and start to fall.

I honestly think that America's fuel is running out or already has.  It's just a matter of time before we also lose momentum and start to fall.  Some say that it already has.
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: BlueJ1 on May 29, 2005, 06:47:55 PM
How can I be bad, you eject it out within a half hour. :D
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Post by: Vulcan on May 29, 2005, 08:08:15 PM
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Originally posted by MrLars
Nutrition Facts
Serving Size 1 sandwich (215.0g)  - NZ:224g
 
Amount Per Serving
Calories 576Calories from Fat 292  
% Daily Value*
Total Fat 32.5g50%     NZ:27.7g
Saturated Fat 12.0g60%    NZ:11.1g
Polyunsaturated Fat 2.8g
Monounsaturated Fat 14.1g
Cholesterol 103mg34%
Sodium 742mg31%    NZ:963mg
Total Carbohydrates 38.7g13%       NZ:37.5g
Protein 31.8g    NZ:28.6g


Interesting the NZ Big Mac seems to be bigger than the US Big Mac and quite a different beast in content.

(http://www.mcdonalds.co.nz/food_nutritional_guide.htm)



Would be interesting to post pics of Big Macs from around the world.
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Post by: FUNKED1 on May 29, 2005, 08:12:16 PM
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Originally posted by MrLars
My gripe with fast food is that consumers generaly have no idea just how calorie and fat laden this food is.

That's not a "gripe with fast food", it's a gripe with fast food consumers.  I mean I don't know what would clue them in that it was high in fat, other than the grease all over the wrapper, the nutritional info posted in the store, the way your mouth feels like you just ate an institutional-size tub of vaseline, or the rainbow colored oil slick in the toilet after it's done "digesting".
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Post by: FiLtH on May 29, 2005, 11:33:30 PM
#8 please.
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Post by: Hangtime on May 29, 2005, 11:39:04 PM
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Originally posted by FiLtH
#8 please.


Would you like to supersize that?
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: MrLars on May 30, 2005, 04:51:49 AM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
That's not a "gripe with fast food", it's a gripe with fast food consumers.


Uninformed consumers. Did you know that the bread used for buns in almost all fast food outlets has twice the amount of sugar than store bought buns?

How fatty is that meat before cooking? Why does a quarter pounder only weigh 3.2 ounces after cooking?

Heard about the beef flavoring in MickeyD's fries? They said they would change the recipe and get rid of the beef flavoring after an uproar from the hindu and vegitarian community but still haven't done so after almost two years.

Laying the blame only on the consumers isn't really fair since fastfood outlets only in the past five or so years have been required to provide their nutritional values to their consumers. Prior to that the consumer was on his own to figure it out. Now it still isn't easy to find in the outlet save for a few that actualy post the info in an easily visable, text size and location wise, style. That is probably a marketing decision. Guess who their marketing department is most loyal to, the consumers or the corporation?

This could be the evolution of the Darwin theory though, uninformed or uncaring consumers of this crud will be culled from the herd eventualy.
Title: Supersize Me.
Post by: Hangtime on May 30, 2005, 07:51:17 AM
(http://www.mtaonline.net/~siberian/LostPuppy.jpg)