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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Captain Virgil Hilts on May 29, 2005, 10:25:46 AM
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what a loser (http://www.nascar.com/2005/news/headlines/cup/05/29/rgordon_indy.ap/index.html)
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Heh, what a dope.
Go, Danica, go. She's gorgeous.
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Tell him to lay off the BBQ pork sandwiches and Jim Beam if he wants to cut down on his weight....
freaking baby
ohh, and yeah, Danica is hot!
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Maybe he should eat a salad next time instead of that steak. If a fat driver argued that he should have weight removed from his car to compensate, I wonder what that guy would say?
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For someone who should be banned for stupidity, he sure is vocal.
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I blame boosh
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He's totally right in this issue. Of course the cars should be weighed with the driver.
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Actually, I agree. It would create a level field which is what is required for truely great competitive race.
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What an idiot.
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Tell him to lay off the BBQ pork sandwiches and Jim Beam if he wants to cut down on his weight....
freaking baby
I just cannot say that that isn't funny, or untrue, but winning the Indy 500 is so competitive, he has a point. Your opinion my vary.
And I would definitely give her the R Kelly special.
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1117383480_danica2.jpg)
She looks good to go to me . :)
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yep... cars should be weighed with the driver... otherwise.. what is the point of weight limits?
lazs
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Cmon, How much of a weight difference can there be between her and younger 18 Y/o kid
(http://www.lemans-racing.com/images/trajectoires/17720031058445330.jpg)
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She`s 5`1", weighs 100lbs.
Last time I pulled up on the scales at the strip the car was weighed without the driver. :)
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if you read the story , he is not doing too good in nascar, and is trying to get more horsepower out of his engines, maybe he should find smaller drivers? any jockeys out there that want to drive?
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Ah, His new Nascar team.Probably because no one else wanted to deal with him anymore. The guy's a bonehead:rofl
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Oh, man...I just lost every last bit of respect for Robby Gordon. Talk about EXCUSES...
I'm damn proud to be working at Argent. Our whole company is pulling for Patrick & Brack.
GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
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Unfair advantage?
So what's his excuse for sucking so bad in Nascar?
Do the 38 drivers ahead of him in the Nextel Cup point standings have an "unfair" talent advantage?
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Why dont they just add a weight to her car. Making it the average weight of a man?
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Originally posted by jetb123
Why dont they just add a weight to her car. Making it the average weight of a man?
So should they just add and subtract weight to and from everyone's car so that they are all equal?
I guess my question would be more along the lines of: Are there any dissadantages to being a 100 pound woman driving a racecar? And should those disadvantages be transferred accross the board as well?
-Sik
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Does NASCAR really weigh the cars with the driver inside?
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I sitll don't think have 50lbs less would make all that much difference.
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If he is truely serious about his sport why not loose 50lbs. I know he could remain healthy at that weight. He would pick up what @1/2 MPH. Or instead of comparing himself to Danica maybe he should compare the lightest male driver to her. Just guessing the weight differnece wouldnt be 100lbs.
Next do we hang weights off horses to equal the field?
I agree, what a loser
GO DANICA!
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Dunno about nascar, but in F1 10kg of fuel is about 0.3 to 0.4 secs per lap depending on length.
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So everyone who weighs less than the fattest guy has to have ballast added to their car? If some porker weighs 300 pounds, this whiner should have 100 lbs added to his car? That’s like saying that basket ball players should get platform shoes to equal their heights. Or, football linebackers should able to strap on sandbags until they are equal in weight. Can you imagine tubby jockeys? Lots of sports give advantages to various body characteristics; often that’s part of the competition. What if she argues that she’s just a little wimpy girl and doesn’t have the strength to handle such a powerful car and gee-loading? Maybe the men should have to wear sandbags on their forearms… She could also complain that her breasts hurt from all the intense jiggling and the men should have to glue silicon implants on their man-breasts…
It’s bad enough to get beaten by a girl in a man’s sport, but crying, complaining and making excuses is just pathetic. I think it’s clear who the sissy is here.
eskimo
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Wow... do you guys just post oppinions for the hell of it without the slightest clue as to what you are talking about out of addiction... or is there some other reason?
The issue is considering total weight limit vs car-only weight limit. With a total weight limit, driver+car+fuel must weigh a MINIMUM weight. If you go over that, it's your choice. With car only, the weight of the driver becomes an issue. 100lbs does make a hell of a difference with a 1500 lb car... especially at the outer edge of the torque curve.
This has nothing to do with catering to the heaviest driver.
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Word.
And not about some female that inspires retards to care about Indy Car all a sudden.
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I don't give a damn about IndyCar racing, I just enjoy watching Robbie Gordon cry.
That being said, I'm sure Danica Patrick pays a price for the lack of weight, like a lack of muscle mass.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1117383480_danica2.jpg)
I'd hit it!!!
Karaya
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Lol, she is a gem. Good crash.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Wow... do you guys just post oppinions for the hell of it without the slightest clue as to what you are talking about out of addiction... or is there some other reason?
The issue is considering total weight limit vs car-only weight limit. With a total weight limit, driver+car+fuel must weigh a MINIMUM weight. If you go over that, it's your choice. With car only, the weight of the driver becomes an issue. 100lbs does make a hell of a difference with a 1500 lb car... especially at the outer edge of the torque curve.
This has nothing to do with catering to the heaviest driver.
So what are you sugesting be done?
eskimo
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Originally posted by Bodhi
Tell him to lay off the BBQ pork sandwiches and Jim Beam if he wants to cut down on his weight....
LOL, Nascar IS pulled pork BBQ and Jim Beam.
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Great stuff..
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The lead with ten laps...go girl!
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4th place-great job.
She's for real.
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Originally posted by Sox62
go girl!
? I didn't mean that. Go girl? Blarrg.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/22_1117383480_danica2.jpg)
She looks good to go to me . :)
(http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL767/2726312/7109603/98470009.jpg)
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Originally posted by Mini D
Wow... do you guys just post oppinions for the hell of it without the slightest clue as to what you are talking about out of addiction... or is there some other reason?
The issue is considering total weight limit vs car-only weight limit. With a total weight limit, driver+car+fuel must weigh a MINIMUM weight. If you go over that, it's your choice. With car only, the weight of the driver becomes an issue. 100lbs does make a hell of a difference with a 1500 lb car... especially at the outer edge of the torque curve.
This has nothing to do with catering to the heaviest driver.
Stating that Patrick has an unfair advantage is ridiculous. There's nothing "unfair" about it.
"I won't race against her until the IRL does something to take that advantage away.'' sounds like the whine of the century. Apparently, all the cars will have to be fitted with weights in order to equalize the numbers, according to Gordon's logic. Whiner.
Let's talk about the presumed disadvantage Danica has at being a 5'1" tall and 100 lb woman. O wait, looks like Patrick showed today that she isn't disadvantaged at all. And, she's never whined about anything of the sort, either.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Lol, she is a gem. Good crash.
My dad was sitting there practically jerking off praising her. I counted 3 major mistakes today even before her bonehead spin under yellow and lotto winner recovery. And don't forget the bobble in quals. These weren't mistakes like "I got off line and lost a little time" but mistakes that have killed better drivers than her. You can get away with that stuff for one year but in the long run the speedway will bite you in the bellybutton when you **** up like she did. Very lucky little girl. She should hang up the helmet and commence babymaking. That bellybutton is too fine to end up smeared along a concrete wall.
But the important thing is that the Beam car won. And the Red Bull car ran 2nd in the F1 race for a while. A great day for some of my favorite cocktail ingredients. **** diet soda.
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And the weight thing is pathetic. I could have $500k worth of liposuction and go on the Ghandi diet and there would still be zero chance of stuffing me into one of those little things without some kind of skeletal reduction. Certain physiques are good for certain sports. Deal with it. Out.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
Very lucky little girl. She should hang up the helmet and commence babymaking.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Are you competing with Lazs? :D
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The guy made a very good point.
If you guys who disagree do not think so wait unit the race fills up with little korean and chinese drivers who weigh in 50 to 100 lbs less than the average American driver.
The formula to make a race car go faster is easy. More horsepower. Less drag, less wight.
Not weighing the driver is a very glaring loophole.
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Originally posted by Habu
The guy made a very good point.
If you guys who disagree do not think so wait unit the race fills up with little korean and chinese drivers who weigh in 50 to 100 lbs less than the average American driver.
The formula to make a race car go faster is easy. More horsepower. Less drag, less wight.
Not weighing the driver is a very glaring loophole.
Open wheel racing has been dominated by small people since forever. You ever meet any of these guys? They average about 5'8". Tallest ones I can think of are Gurney, Berger, Webber, all around 6'0".
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Originally posted by Habu
The guy made a very good point.
If you guys who disagree do not think so wait unit the race fills up with little korean and chinese drivers who weigh in 50 to 100 lbs less than the average American driver.
The formula to make a race car go faster is easy. More horsepower. Less drag, less wight.
Not weighing the driver is a very glaring loophole.
Yeah, that would be ****ing horrible! Can you believe it! Korean and Chinese Drivers! How ****ing barbaric!
-Sik
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Every year we have a pool on who will DNF first. Entries usually go like this:
People named Foyt
asian drivers
female drivers
NASCAR guys
Pretty much covers the first DNF of every 500 over the last 15 years.
They had two women in the field one year. You can guess what happened.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Are you competing with Lazs? :D
E.W.S.
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Originally posted by Habu
The guy made a very good point.
If you guys who disagree do not think so wait unit the race fills up with little korean and chinese drivers who weigh in 50 to 100 lbs less than the average American driver.
The formula to make a race car go faster is easy. More horsepower. Less drag, less wight.
Not weighing the driver is a very glaring loophole.
Read my response above.
Downhill skiers don’t get weighed. Tall gymnasts don’t stand a chance in serious competition. Short basketball players are at a serious disadvantage in their sport. This isn’t kindergarten and it’s not the Special Olympics. In some sports physical attributes give some people advantages; so little Korean and Chinese drivers start to dominate. Good for them.
eskimo
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Chinese and Korean drivers could never win in auto racing. Have you seen the way they drive on the freeways? And thats not even near racing speed.
I thought I heard the announcers say that Danica was fixing her makeup right before that restart crash. Its amazing that she knocked a couple of cars out but managed to stay in with only having to change the front wing on the car.
:D
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Driver skill and luck usually prevails over how much the driver weighs. We'd be seeing race horse jockeys driving by now if weight were that important.
Typical prejudice that he feels challenges his manhood that he has to whine like a little girl. Boo hoo.
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Driver skill and luck usually prevails over how much the driver weighs. We'd be seeing race horse jockeys driving by now if weight were that important.
Typical prejudice that he feels challenges his manhood that he has to whine like a little girl. Boo hoo.
CHUCK, good to see ya!
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Thanks! Good to see you, too.
Just you wait for my PoF 2005 Airshow pics, my best yet :D
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Here's a good rule of thumb for those of you not well aquainted with NASCAR. Ignore any statements made by people with the last names of Gordon, Harvick or Spencer.
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I was surprised to hear that IRL doesn't weigh cars with the drivers in them. lol! Even the local dirt track has done that for years. Prolly since the beginning. Gordon may be a whiner, but he does have a pont here.
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Former Champ Car champion DeMatta weighed 120 pounds soaking wet. No one complained about his weight. He spent a season in F1 and did poorly. Obviously, a few pounds can't make a winner out of a second rate chassis.
It boils down to Gordon being intimidated by a woman who is just as fast as he is....
Besides, I dislike the whole concept of mandating equal cars. Remember the Jim Hall's Chaparrals, the Lotus 72 and the Gurney Eagles? Under the concept of equal cars, none of those would have been developed.
(http://www.sandcastlevi.com/images/racing/chap-all.jpg)
(http://www.sportcraftcars.com/carousel/car4704.jpg) (http://www.icon.co.za/~alvinw/img84.gif)
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Habu
If you guys who disagree do not think so wait unit the race fills up with little korean and chinese drivers who weigh in 50 to 100 lbs less than the average American driver.
Why not? They would also work cheaper and make more profit for the teams. It's the current American way.
P.S. The chick is prettier than Gordon and will probably get some of the advertising money currently spent on him. :D