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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on November 29, 2000, 12:02:00 PM
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I never go see movies when released. I always wait for the rentals...even then, unless highly recommended I don't bother, you can say I avg. about 1 movie every 2 months.
Reasons being is a countless list of Hollywood squeakes I have about them...but thats another topic.
My question is:
Gladiator? Worth renting?
Patriot? Worth it?
Just watched U571, good flick, as long as you keep in mind that its not historical.
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Gladiator is pretty good.. just remember it is total fiction and you'll be OK.
Haven't seen the Patriot... but those I know that saw it liked it. Its long.
Rental movies I'd recomend:
Mystery Alaska
American Beauty
X-Men
Saving Private Ryan
AKDejaVu
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I purchased Private Ryan, excellent indeed.
X-Men, Sci-fi?
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"Gladiator" was okay. Nothing great, but probably worth a rental.
The best movie I have seen lately is "Best in Show." It was bust-a-gut, laugh-out-loud funny. Its still in theaters, but keep an eye out for it in the video store in the future.
Gordo
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Both Gladiator and The Patriot are good movies. Both long but good.
If you liked Braveheart you will like The Patriot.
X-men is good if you liked the comic books or cartoons.
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X-men is science fiction. It is based on the comic book series. This is one of the first movies that were heavy in special effects but didn't totally rely on them. It actually had a story and followed the original story line.
Best in Show is also an excellent movie... but watch "This is Spinal Tap" first (its on video). You'll recognize most of the characters from there and get a better understanding of the humor. Mockumentaries slay me.
AKDejaVu
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gladiator was better than i expected - definitley fiction, the military equipment didn't seem appropriate for the time in some scenes but i dont know much about this period anyway - haven't seen the others
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I liked them all. I would rate Patriot higher than gladiator, but both were worth the 20 bucks at the movies so are definatly worth a rental. X-men was my fave, but i am a si-fi junkie, depends on your taste in movies i guess (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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gladiator is cool for a rental!
patriot = brave heart in the civil war, nuff said.
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Gladiator - very good if you like swords and men in skirts (like Braveheart then). Not very historical (like Braveheart then). mrfish - the equipment was at least historical (I watch the Discovery channel (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif))
The Patriot - very annoying
Brief synopsis:
Usual 'historical' Hollywood trash in which the Americans are the righteous heroes, and the British are satan worshipping, baby killing, mother f'cking bastards.
U571 - very annoying
Brief synopsis
Usual 'historical' Hollywood trash in which the Americans save the world single handedly, without the aid the of the Royal Navy (who in fact the film should be solely about, but we couldn't have a film where the British are the heroes, instead of being either evil (Jeremy Irons) or stupid (Hugh Grant), could we?).
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Dowding,
Are you going to tell me that Monte Python's Search For The Holy Grail was a British Documentary attempt. If so,,,,,, they succeeded. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Never saw Braveheart so no idea if it was ok either.
Haven't seen any of the newer releases other than X-men. It was ok but not spectacular and I did like the comic books about 35+ years ago.
Mav
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Gladiator - bad. Builds up something from the start, but then it just endlessly repeats itself.
Gladiator - Americans will like it. Foreigners are cruel animals and you have a hero that kicks ass. I think it sucked, because it's historically damned inaccurate.
Then again, Americans also got the enigma machine first.
X-Men is entertaining. The got that Wolverine dude pretty close to the comic book version.
Just see Das Boot again - doesn't get much better than that.
Or the bad bellybutton marines in Aliens.
Oh yeah.
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Nah, best Monthy Python's film is "Brian's Life"...hands down (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
And U-571 is not only unnacurate historically but also unbeliable...those images of the sub getting depth charges so close are laughable, that means the sub go down fast or,if lucky, GO UP ASAP!
Not to forget that in 1942, and in that situation I'm sure that a german destroyer would be the most dangerous thing for the captured U-boat, sure...with all the british Coastal command looking for u-boats they choose to go to england all thru the western approaches...LOL!!!
And one wonders what was that DD doing in the middle of the atlantic, fishing I suppose (maybe Hitler wanted fish for dinner but with the blockade he couldnt have it), and rowing quite a bit(German DD endurance was ridiculous)...
And Type XIV milk cows U boats like the one they sink in the film, were unarmed...
And the enigma machine itself was worth nothing. The bassic and most needed thing was the code book, not the machine.
Endless mistakes in that film. Was entertaining, that is true, but if you try to look into it with a few of realism critizism...lol (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Charlie MoPic - Vietnam LRRP squad, 1st person - best Vietnam war flick I've seen, and I've seen a lot.
Spinal Tap - I second it. For laughs. Guaranteed. I've seen it 4 times. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Fargo - This is a sleeper. Funny. Seen it 3-4 times.
Gunthr
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Dammit Santa! The bad-ass Marines were in Aliens 2! "Game over man!"
Dowding.. I'd argue with you... but instead I'll just leave you with these two things:
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- You are right
- We still kicked your bellybutton back in the 1700's (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Now.. if you want even more recomendations on movies... I have to recomend "Clerks" and "Mallrats". These are mostly dialogue based movies but they are really funny. The acting in Clerks is college league... but the conversations are hillarious.
How about one for the movies: "Unbreakable" was kinda slow and I couldn't figure out how they were going to end it. Hat's off to whomever wrote that ending... I didn't see it coming. It also provides an interesting interpretation of comic book stories.
AKDejaVu
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Hi All,
X-men - If you liked the comics, this is close enough
East is East - You need a special type of "sense of humour" - Bradford = Bradistan (English)?? but I thought it was really funny.
TTFN
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Bah, most modern films are terrible anyway (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Three Kings is the most recent recommendation I have. Makes no qualms about being historically inaccurate (Gulf war) but pretty impressively meaningful and very funny.
Twelve Monkeys is a good piece of sci-fi/action.
And Deja, you're wrong there. The first movie was 'Alien', the second 'Aliens'. :P
The Postman was shown over here recently, it's another very nationalistic piece (as well as another badly screwed-up book adaptation) but if you can stand the script and pathetic ending it's got a certain quality to it, and amazing cinematography. I think Blade Runner and Stargate are the only movies I've seen with the same level of detail given to the surroundings.
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Maverick - the Holy Grail was a serious fly-on-the-wall documentary, showing us just what it was like to be a Knight. If you can't see that then you are a fool. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Dowding.. I'd argue with you... but instead I'll just leave you with these two things:
1. You are right
2. We still kicked your bellybutton back in the 1700's :d
LOL (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) It wasn't my bellybutton you kicked, or else my parents have got some explaining to do... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I've seen both Clerks and Mallrats. They were ok but something about them really got on my tits - the dialogue was a little two idiosyncratic, and it just irritated me after a while. Worth seeing though and all my friends liked them.
Three Kings was a poor man's Kelly's Heroes without the laughs. I think it wanted to be like The Thin Red Line, but also be actually watchable.
Anyway, I prefer books to films these days; no book even comes close to Catch-22, has anyone seen the film?
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And Deja, you're wrong there. The first movie was 'Alien', the second 'Aliens'. :P
DOH! Serious blushing going on. And a fricking Brit pointed it out to top it off (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
LOL (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) It wasn't my bellybutton you kicked, or else my parents have got some explaining to do... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
Hehehe.. I know you weren't around back then. Just so you know... every time we let off a firecracker on 4th of July... we aren't really thinking about how our ancestors kicked butt on your anscestors (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) We are thinking about how WE kicked butt on YOU (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I've seen both Clerks and Mallrats. They were ok but something about them really got on my tits - the dialogue was a little two idiosyncratic, and it just irritated me after a while. Worth seeing though and all my friends liked them.
Excellent observation. This is a result of the author/director insisting that the actors stick precisely to the script and the actors not being very good. It was less noticeable in Mall Rats than Clerks. In Chasing Amy you couldn't tell anymore.
BTW.. you do know Silent Bob wrote and directed those two films don't ya?
I have seen "Catch 22" but I have not read the book. It is one of the all-time classic WW2 films IMO. Just too much truth behind the humor.
AKDejaVu
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Catch-22....probably my all time favorite movie. You have to watch it 2 or 3 times to pick up on all the little nuances. Lately, I think Saving Private Ryan was one of the better movies I've seen. The cinematography during the D-day landing was outstanding. Also The Green Mile was pretty good....probably one of the best book adaptations I've seen. It helps to read the book first though.
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Originally posted by Ripsnort:
My question is:
Gladiator? Worth renting?
Patriot? Worth it?
Just watched U571, good flick, as long as you keep in mind that its not historical.
heya Rip,
i saw Patriot, and it was interessting for me (european) to see what
happened there around 1700. All i know about Amerikas beginning is the
wild west (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) but Patriot playing in a time before wild west.
It was a german who directed the movie, Roland Emmerich (Godzilla, ID4),
i usualy dont like his movies that much, not
enough deepnes and not seriously enough.
Patriot is his first attempt in a more mature direction (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
didnt saw Gladiator and U571, need to rent it too.
greets
Gh0stFT
"Quite often on the track when I want to go faster I don't drive any faster, I just concentrate harder, which makes me go faster" - Jim Clark
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Deja - didn't know that Silent Bob did all that. I'd forgotten about Chasing Amy - I think I saw it last year, but can't remember.
As for Catch-22, I cannot urge you guys strongly enough to go out now and buy/loan a copy of the book. I've talked to people who studied it as part of their course at uni., and they say it's ten times better than the film (which was good anyway). It's long (nearly 600 pages), but the whole thing is pretty disjointed. I like to read a book leisurely, but I read it in 3 days. I can't recommend it enough. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Aw, U571 went in the bottom drawer with "thin red line". (boooooooooooooooring !!)
Both are nearly as bad as "the Hidden2" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
the 1st moments of Gladiator Rocks tho !
Saw
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"thin red line". (boooooooooooooooring !!)
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! The only enjoyable part of this film was when my friend and I started making fun of it about 2/3rds the way through. We were saying things like "Ohh... yet ANOTHER rhetorical question!" and "Please... show one more shot of a dead bird or a sunset!". We actually got the entire theater going. One month later, I discovered it was nominated for an academy award. I'm still shaking my head.
AKDejaVu
I almost forgot... At one point I left to go to the restroom. When I came back... I asked my buddy "Did I miss anything?". Everyone within earshot laughed quite loudly.
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I liked "Thin Red Line" exactly because it was cerebral. It made me think and philosophize about war and about our veterans, and the hardships and sacrifices they endured.
I don't think every war film has to have action of "Private Ryan" to be effective.
To each his own <shrug>.
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Movies are for ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!!! if you want reality, watch the news!
BTW, Gladiator was a good movie, They are re-releasing it in the theater, I suggest you see it there!
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Yes Dejavu, and Aliens II is NOT the right name (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif).Aliens is. First was called only Alien.
http://www.mtb1.demon.co.uk/s_weav/films/aliens.htm (http://www.mtb1.demon.co.uk/s_weav/films/aliens.htm)
"Fight Club" was quite good too, nice message.
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And those dudes were badass, I tell ya. Love that film; future societal structure is realistic but frightening, just as I want it to be.
StSantianism now! And I shall give you badass marines!
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Originally posted by NATEDOG:
Movies are for ENTERTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!!! if you want reality, watch the news!
don't think you'll find it there either... (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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spend the $4 and rent them, then make up your own mind. Never take a film critic's word.
Eagler
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Gladiator was better than patriot in my opinion
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Of course, if you want to watch a real War classic, The Bridge on the River Kwai was just released on DVD. I sure wish David Lean had made more WWII films in his day!
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Thin Red Line was OK, but I found it a little pretentious - it also didn't need to be 3 hours long. But the characters are acted well and believable.
The best recent war film was Schindler's List. Those three hours sure went quickly, and it's the one and only film I've watched where people (men and women) were openly crying, as they stayed in the theatre right until the end of the credits.
Apocalypse Now is probably the best war film ever made. If you liked that, read 'Heart of Darkness' which it is based on (although it's about 19th century Afrika rather than 20th century Vietnam).
Has anyone heard of the 'Director's cut' of Apocalypse Now, that's supposed to coming out? It adds some pretty crucial scenes which were cut from the original release, like when the PBY visits a group of French people holding out at a plantation.
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Rip, check out "Frequency", pretty good movie with quite a few paradox twists.
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You got to be kidding. Apocalypse Now sucked....nothing but Hollywood bullcrap. The best Viet Nam War movie would be Hamburger Hill with "Purple Hearts" being a fast second. Ya had to be there to know for sure.
Gladiator was a good movie.
The perfect Storm was worth renting also.
Lethrnek
VMF 111 Devil Dogs
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The best movie of all time was "Space Balls". Worth renting. Also try "1941", it's good too. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Yup, 1941 is a top movie!
I really enjoyed 'Gladiator' and would definitely recommend it.
The Patriot - as a keen follower on 18/19 Century history I won't bother watching this because of the poor historical reviews I've read. BTW, 'kicking our butts back across the sea' is a fairly amusing comment since they were British and colonials that kicked 'our butt' over - thought American's called themselves American's after the revolution? We couldn't have been that bad... our language is still used (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) . Anyway, an ancestor of mine was a colonial that stayed there during that period... then eventually moved back.
Kelly's Heroes - now this is the MUST for everyone! Oddball sure reminds me of a few people in AH! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
X-Men - it was okay, a little disappointing in places. Famke Jansen sure made up for it though! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
2001: A Space Oddysey - love it or hate it... I sure love it!
Life Of Brian - fantastic! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Regards
Nexx
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Hamburger Hill is set in Korea isn't it? Also, Oliver Stone was 'there' wasn't he?
Kelly's Heroes is a sure fire classic - I've just ordered it from Canada on DVD for brother's Xmas present. I got some software that lets my DVD player play region 1 DVD's. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Best Quote from Kelly's Heroes:
Oddball: "Hi man."
Big Joe: "What you doin?"
Oddball: "Drinking wine and Eating cheese and catching some rays you know..."
Big Joe: "What's happened?"
Oddball: "Well the tank's broken and they're trying to fix it."
Big Joe: "Then Why the Hell aren't you up there helping them?!"
Oddball: "I only ride 'em, I don't what make's 'em work."
Or maybe -
Kelly: "Nobodies asking you to be a hero."
Oddball: "Yeah, then you sit up in that turret baby."
Kelly: "No cause your gonna be up there Baby, and I'll be right outside showing you where to go."
Oddball: "Yeah..Crazy like so many positive waves maybe we can't lose. You're on."
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Originally posted by Replicant:
Yup, 1941 is a top movie!
I will never forget that P40 shooting at that huds...errr...twin engined Zeke
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif) boy ,that movie rulessssssssssss (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Originally posted by Dowding:
Apocalypse Now is probably the best war film ever made. If you liked that, read 'Heart of Darkness' which it is based on (although it's about 19th century Afrika rather than 20th century Vietnam).
the first time i saw this movie it stuck with me for hours afterword - it puts you in a mood that is hard to shake - the conrad book, on the other hand, is number 2 on my all-time boring list right behind my vcr manual (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Boring = sitting through 4 hours of a uni Hamlet production, all the while trying to look interested, amused and appreciative.
Shakespeare can be done well (I haven't seen a bad production of The Tempest yet), but Hamlet always sucks to me.
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"Shooting fish" (British comedy, toejamty ending)
"Blue" (from the Tricolor by Kieslowski)
"Memphis Belle" (no, not the new one, the one actually made during the war)
"Delicatessen" (Really, really wierd, and equally good)
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Ah, I forgot about Delicatessen! The City of Lost Children is another excellent film! (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Also, anyone ever seen Dark Star? Kinda low budget but funny!
Nexx
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Hey Nexx,
Dark Star Was that the one with the "spacehopper" thingy as the alien? and the guy riding the surfboard into the star at the end? if so Brilliant (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Completely forget about it.
TTFN
snafu
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Originally posted by NATEDOG:
if you want reality, watch the news!
LOL! There is reality in the news? depends on which network and whos point of view they want to portray.
sorry, not meant to hijack, just an interjection (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Well, I give you this tip Rip :
These are movies that I saw a few times :
"BIG CHILL"
"GRAN CANYON"
"Live & Let Die in LA"
"Smoke"
and a pretty good laugh : "Parenthood" (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
I know I could rent these and have fun anytime (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Saw
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StSantianism now! And I shall give you badass marines!
What, like this? (http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shuttle/9699/Badass.wav)
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Man... I almost forgot... this is one you HAVE to rent:
High Fidelity
Its a heavyily dialogue based film that is perfectly cast. John Cusak is very good in the lead role. But.. the best characters are the assistants that work for him at the record shop. It is simply a hilarious movie. Especially when the kick the crap out of Tim Robbins (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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AKDejaVu