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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: JB73 on May 30, 2005, 04:43:08 PM
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how's it look?
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1117489261_001.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1117489279_002.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1117489293_003.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1117489307_004.jpg)
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not reallydiggen the lighter wings cause its alil too much of a constant color idk i think maybe alil more work its comin along good tho
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The green is really throwing me off lol
Fix the green
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Curious.
The quality of details seem to be a bit low to think that it is in 1024x1024 resolution.
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Fueselage.
Looks ok, especially the rear part but the front could use some weathering and oil effects. Especially the top greenest green looks way to clean and painted. Burn marks around the guns would be one thing to do.
Wings.
The wings really look... ummm odd... I think its partially due to the combination of metal and paint... the metal it self looks really more like grey paint...
Try adding a layer of cloud effect over the metal grey. Use the opticity to get a good blend.
Weather effects. Even metal gets weathered... The green on the wings doesnt really look weathered either.
The dirt from the engine that goes over the fuselage is clipped with a straight line at the wing. It should be on the wing as well if its right above it.
Keep up the good work.
Tex
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Originally posted by Kweassa
Curious.
The quality of details seem to be a bit low to think that it is in 1024x1024 resolution.
i fly at 512, my system can't handle 1024, so the screen shots here are in 512
im guessing that's why not alot shows up in the screen shots
Tex, there is no metal on the wings, it is all paint. there are weathering effects over the whole plane, though not a ton over the cowl, only some gun residue, with the stretching and duplicated parts of the skin i can't make it look anything but real stupid, and funky.
the engine and cowl flaps have dirt, and some streaks. i can add more.
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I'd hit it :D
Great Job 73!
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Originally posted by Howitzer
I'd hit it :D
Great Job 73!
thanks!
anyone here fly 1024 textures? i'll email the bmp, and you can take soem screen shots, to show more detail?
i'd ask someone in my squad but noone i know in the squad has a system good enough to run 1024 textures lol
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Originally posted by JB73
thanks!
anyone here fly 1024 textures? i'll email the bmp, and you can take soem screen shots, to show more detail?
i'd ask someone in my squad but noone i know in the squad has a system good enough to run 1024 textures lol
If you can send it to me within 5 minutes, Ill do it right now. :) If not, I'll get to it sometime tonight if you'd like.
bnicely(at)gmail.com
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JB73
I guess its the low detail that makes it so the weathering doesnt show that well. Since the wings are supposed to be painted then I guess they dont look wrong at all.. ;)
Tex
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Originally posted by United
If you can send it to me within 5 minutes, Ill do it right now. :) If not, I'll get to it sometime tonight if you'd like.
bnicely(at)gmail.com
thanks.
i'm at work, so i can't send it until tonight when i get home (5pm CST) if that's cool
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o o o leme do it too :)
1024text with hi res pack all the time** 4aa on 1280x1024 res :)
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Compared to the model profile that you posted in your other thread, alot of the colors do not match the profile.
The color on the side fuselage and tail, from what I can see, have a green tint to it. The model appears to be a very light brownish color.
The color on the top of the fuselage looks to be the right color but a tad bit too dark.
The colors between what is on the wing and the fuselage have a very definate line, where on the model, it appears to be a smooth blend.
The green on the cowl is just the wrong green. Where the guns are on the cowl, there is an indentation in the cowl for each gun. On the model, those indentations appear to have the same dark brown color as what is displayed on the top of the fuselage. This color could also be a result of the guns firing, but your rendition shows no brown at all.
I know that you are not allowed to show the Swaz, but on the model, there are some numbers above the Swaz, you don't have any.
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Originally posted by JB73
thanks.
i'm at work, so i can't send it until tonight when i get home (5pm CST) if that's cool
Im here waiting for it. :)
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Originally posted by United
Im here waiting for it. :)
Me too ::D :eek:
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first i'll address the colors. i used these as resources:
histoy and colors from:
"Walk Around FW 190D" ISBN 0-89747-374-4
online references used:
http://www.scaleworkshop.com/workshop/fw190d932cm_1.htm
http://modelhangar.virtualave.net/schwarz12.htm
http://www.scalevision.com/new/fw190d9black12mt_1.htm
on one page:
The fuselage was painted in a scheme of RLM 81 Braunviolet, RLM 82 Hellgrun and the "spuriously designated" Grunblau 84. and int he picture it is tan.
also:
Many arguments have been put forward over the years as to what the actual paint mix used to create "84" is, some have claimed it is poorly-manufactured RLM 76
i used here:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.org/colorcharts/colorcharts.asp
and here:
http://www.skinnersheaven.com/
as color references. the vairence of RLM 84 (green-blue, or grun-blau, also named Gelbgrau, and even Yellow-Green) was so wide there is no single reference you can trust.
in the end i used a cross between the definate greenish blue in my book, and the yellow-tan on one model example. the finished color is not as green as my book, and not as yellow as the one model. notice on one example it is almost just gray-tan.
the wing uper and lower surfaces i followed the pattern and again split the color references i found to find a medium. i think they are pretty close to the Christopher Mangion model.
the cowl dark green is taken from the color sites also, and is closest to Mark L. Tucker's model. notice the picture he has of the left side. i think it is pretty drn close, i spen probably 2 hours on that color.
the werk number 500570 is on the stabilizer, just mostly obscured by the brown. in real life and the models it is easier to see black over the brown than in game with lower resolutions.
i will spend some time tonight trying to add more dirt to the cowl, though with the way the bmp wraps, and duplicates the area between the guns it is very diffucult to go with something other than a solid color.
i the image here the boxed area is stretched wildly, and the replicated between the guns:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1117578471_untitled.jpg)
the left and right are seperate and duplicate like this:
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1117578480_untitled02.jpg)
if anyone has advise on how to make smooth transitions in that area please let me know, i am at a loss. as you can see in the shot with the blue and green i do have gun rasidue in the channels, it is getting it outside of those channels i can't figure out. if i make dirt between the guns it also must be on the outside of the guns a good length down the sides (where it would not possibly get)
from the shot of the cowl, you can see the radical stretching in a "paint chip" i put there, it is only a few pixels tall, but it stretches from the panel line all the way to the middle of the cowl. os if i put dark "dirt" it will have to go all the way form the panel line up to the middle of the cowl. not realistic at all.
United, it is OTW now BTW.
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Here they are. If you need more or some of any certain area, let me know and Ill get em ASAP. IMO it looks 10000 times better at higher resolution.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1117580138_side1.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1117580147_side2.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1117580158_side3.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1117580182_top1.jpg)
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/251_1117580451_bottom1.jpg)
JB73, it looks awesome in your bmp file. For some reason, that great look to it kinda fades in game. Also, I stand corrected about your riveting. In the game, its very visible and looks great, but it doesnt stand out as well in the pictures.
Also, the JPEGs are quite more blurry than the bmp pictures are, and I appologize for that. But, these pictures don't do that great scheme any justice. ;) If you want the bmps, just ask and I'll send the full screenshot.
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(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v627/Thebest1189/Black_12_CS.jpg)
Thats black 12 change the green to light brown
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Great profile, whered you get it?
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well thank you sir! <
> glad you like it.... so it does look good in-game?
im sitting here frustrated at my exahust though LOL. the way i made it it doesn't really touch the wings except a tiny bit in the middle of the wing (if you look closely in the skin viewer)
whenever i add "dirt" to the actual wings, at the root, it makes the line along the fuselage more distinct, and off looking.
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
Thats black 12 change the green to light brown
no thats ONE version of it.
i dont like that version, and don't want to skin it, and im not going to. if HTC says they dont like my skin fine. im not changing it to some puke brown think that looks nothing like the other 4+ profiles i have seen of it
this one is completely different:
(http://www.scaleworkshop.com/workshop/images/fw190d9cm_2.jpg)
this one is even different:
(http://www.scalevision.com/new/images/fw190d9black12mt_4.jpg)
the one in my book is even different
GD it i need a scanner
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found a model of the grun-blau fuselage:
http://www.modelersunderground.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4661
this pic shows the best idea in the color i have as a reference:
(http://www.kitpic.com/is.php?i=2470&img=d9-2.jpg)
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If the pic of the plane sitting on the wood planks is REAL ... then that, to me, would be what I would shoot for. The profile that SC provide matches exactly to this plane.
The pics of the model in the forum that you point to ... the markings are exactly the same as the plane in the picture, but as far as I can see ... he got the colors wrong. I think he used a lot of artistic interpretation in making his model.
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they are all models (even the one on the wood planks) but the green one is the one in the picture in my book.
like i said the RLM 84 is an "unknown" color.
and i like green ; )