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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: TheThang on May 31, 2005, 04:16:12 PM
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I've been having fun in my p-47 lately, great plane and i'm very good at piloting it. The only problem i have is timing my shots. For 400 distance on a p48 where do i shoot at a moving plane? how much lead do i put on it and does it cuve at 400 or is it dead on till further down the road? This is by far my favorite plane i just have troubles timing my shots. so please help.
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Go into the training arena and use the LCOS (Lead Computing Gun Site) If you are targeting friendlies hit Ctrl-tab (I think) to turn on Friendly lock and then hit tab when a plane is in the center of your view, this will put some green cross-hairs where you need to fire your bullets.
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You can also go offline. Enable the lead computed gunsight in the setup (toggle it with ctrl tab). try shooting at the drones from all angles with tracers off. Your eye will get a feeling for the lead you need after a while (if you flew canon planes before you will need less lead with MGs).
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Hey Thang, see the above posts, that is the best advice. You can fly with your tracers enabled for a little while to help see where your missing, but I would turn them off in the long run since you will get much better by not using tracers. You can turn tracers on/off from the setup menu in the flight clipboard. I can't remember precicely right now. Maybe I will see you online and I will give you a hand.
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Where to shoot at largely depends on in which direction the other plane is moving. Apart from that the cal .50 mgs travel pretty fast, so if that is the question you need less lead than with slow guns.
Usual rule of thumb is to lead about double as much as you think you need. Definetly try that out, hits surprisingly well. So if you find yourself leading 3/4 of the gun circle diameter try to go for 1,5 of the diameter.
Get the lead you think is right, fire a burst, wait and see if it hit. Do not fire and then drag the tracers onto the target, wont hit that way.
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a = sin-1 (sin(b) * V(t)/V(p))
a=amount of lead
b=angle off tail
Vt=speed of target
Vp=speed of projectile
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Pellik,
I tried that, but I cant type into my calculator well with my left hand while flying.
:aok
Balsy
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=D thanks for all the help guys i appreciate it. And personally tracers just mess me up, thats just my opinion.
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OMG Tehre is a le4d c0mput1ng gUn51ght??!1!!1111oneone WTFOMGKTHXBBQ!!1!111!1oneone
Seriously I did not know about this! This is fantastic news. I think I will be offline for a while and then come back to FINALLY be able to hit something.
Of course I could get really good offline and come back to MA and SUCK bellybutton too. This is probably the more realistic scenario.
At any rate thanks for this thread! I am definitely going to try it out.
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I don't see where to enable the lead computing gunsight in offline mode :confused: Theres nothing in "settings"
cntrl tab toggles friendly padlock.
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I don't thing the lead computing gunsight works offline. It only works when shooting at "friendlies". I have never gotten it to work offline. But it is good online. Except for getting someone to act as a drone. I think one should be able to use it offline. What a great place to practice.
peace
Pillur
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Ok I found it in the configuration settings :D
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Originally posted by LtPillur
I don't thing the lead computing gunsight works offline. It only works when shooting at "friendlies". I have never gotten it to work offline. But it is good online. Except for getting someone to act as a drone. I think one should be able to use it offline. What a great place to practice.
peace
Pillur
I think you can use it on enmies as well, if friendly lock is *disabled*.
If that doesnt work, you can change country to knits (thats the one the drones are IIRC) in offline mode and use the friendl lock...
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Thanks! I assumed that regardless of "side" the drones would always be enemys. I may learn to shoot after all....maybe:)
Peace
Pillur
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Ok I give up. Anyone willing to walk me thru this. Regardless of field the icons/drones are still enemy. So how to use the lead computed gun sight offline? I don't see how to configure it at all.
Peace and thanks
Pillur
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Originally posted by LtPillur
Ok I give up. Anyone willing to walk me thru this. Regardless of field the icons/drones are still enemy. So how to use the lead computed gun sight offline? I don't see how to configure it at all.
Peace and thanks
Pillur
Enable the lead computting sight in Setup->Arena Settings->Flight Model Flags
Then just hit TAB when an enemy drone is in center of your screen. It should put a box around the icon and put the little + signs up where to shoot.
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Originally posted by Clifra Jones
Enable the lead computting sight in Setup->Arena Settings->Flight Model Flags
I looked there and what I have is....
Flight Model Flags 12:6
What does that mean?
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Originally posted by Alky
I looked there and what I have is....
Flight Model Flags 12:6
What does that mean?
My Bad, It's FlightModeFlags
From the AH Help File. Setup, Environment, Arena Settings.
FlightModeFlags
The flight modes are as follows:
Stall Limit Enabled
The stall limit is enabled for everyone and overrides the user's Enable Stall Limiter setting in Setup->Flight. The stall limit is whatever value is set in the StallLimitAoA variable.
Stall Limit Disabled
The stall limit is disabled for everyone and overrides the user's Enable Stall Limiter setting in Setup->Flight.
Stall Limit New User
The Enable Stall Limiter setting in Setup->Flight can only be used by new players in the arena. The stall limit is whatever value is set in the StallLimitAoA variable.
Precision Bombsight
Does not require the user to calibrate the bombsight prior to dropping bombs.
Dive Bombsight
Shows a cross hair on the ground for any pilot in an aircraft with a bomb loadout. The cross hair indicates where the bombs will hit when dropped.
Lead Computed Gunsight
The computed lead time is indicated by a cross hair showing where to shoot when engaging another aircraft.
Air Show Smoke
Streams red and blue smoke from the plane's wingtips.
Formations Enabled
Allows bomber formations to take off from airfields.
Country Perk Enabled
All
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You'll get more use out of the LCG in the TA then offline, as the planes in the TA will actually try to maneuver. The LCG is enabled there already, you just need to hit ctr-tab to enable friendly lock.
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shift/ tab for nme
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'Tab' and 'shift-tab' are just two ways of IDing the enemy you want to target. 'Tab' will cycle thru all targets in view, similar to the check6 function, you just stop hitting tab when you highlight the correct target. 'Shift-tab' will auto highlight the centermost target in your LOS, Line Of Sight.
In the TA , just hit 'Ctrl-Tab' to highlight friendlies, offline you need to enable the LCG in FlightModeFlags as mentioned.
When you get into FlightModeFlags, hit the 'Change' button to see your options.
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Originally posted by pellik
You'll get more use out of the LCG in the TA then offline, as the planes in the TA will actually try to maneuver. The LCG is enabled there already, you just need to hit ctr-tab to enable friendly lock.
Great Suggestion! I used to practice with the LCG in the offline game and became a dead-eye shot - as long as the planes were in a steady, shallow left hand bank at 200 mph. Problem was, nobody on-line would fly like that for me!
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Offline target practice can work wonders BUT you have to be creative and not just get 300 off their 6 and start firing. Set up different angles to shoot at them whether from left, right, top or below. Even head on shots at the drones can be beneficial. And I don't mean to make you a better HO shot in the game. A forward quarter shot is not always a HO and you will see them often while fighting.
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Hmmm, didn't even know that there was this kind of aim training tool :)
How does this LCG consider the convergencies of the different weapons of the plane? If I have mg:s and a 30mm cannon all set for 300yds and the target is 150yds from me, cannon rounds and mg rounds would hit in different places, right? Which location does the LCG indicate for me? The average between these two?
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Hmmmm, don't think I know positively about this so put the BS boots on :)
The LCG will bring up two small green +'s, one for the primary and one for the secondary gun.
I do not believe it even considers your convergence setting and just gives the position to fire at, the general spot to shoot considering the targets flight path.
It will even display the +'s when there is NO gun sulution at the time, like looking directly back.
For the exact scoop, we'd need HTCs viewpoint on how the game determines this lead.