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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Flatbar on June 02, 2005, 11:51:12 AM
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'nuff said :)(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/Flatbar/Bugs.jpg)
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Thats a picture of Lazs isn't it. He Hates Windshields and Helmets too!
:rofl :rofl
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thats just nasty
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Thats a picture of Lazs isn't it.
Lazs would have licked the bugs off already.
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My bike didn't have a windshield, but I always rode with a full faced helmet. Was riding her back to work from lunch on some backroads on a really hot afternoon. Was slowing for a stop sign so I lifted my visor to get some air in the helmet. Took a bug square in my left eye. Three surgeries later, the 12 pieces it had shattered into were out. Sold the bike and I'm back into muscle cars again. :)
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little dinky flys aren't bad, it's those wasps and bees that are killers. having headons with those is like getting hit by a pellet gun.
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I caught a dove in the chest at 70MPH once. That kinda smarted, but it was nothing like when I met an untarped rock truck that was blowing screenings (small slivers of rock under 1/4 inch) out of the top of his trailer. It was like getting hit in the face with a shotgun.
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I don't wear those head scarve thingies... especially with smiley faces on em..
And I don't wear earings or womens sunglasses.
other than that..
oh,, If someone wants to post it I will send a pic of why you don't just get bugs from motorcycles.
lazs
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huh?
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Originally posted by lazs2
I don't wear those head scarve thingies... especially with smiley faces on em..
And I don't wear earings or womens sunglasses.
other than that..
oh,, If someone wants to post it I will send a pic of why you don't just get bugs from motorcycles.
lazs
So what do you wear when it's raining and cold Lazs? Or are you purely a sunny summer day only rider, to concerned with "image" rather then just enjoying yourself no matter what the condiitons.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by rpm
I caught a dove in the chest at 70MPH once. That kinda smarted, but it was nothing like when I met an untarped rock truck that was blowing screenings (small slivers of rock under 1/4 inch) out of the top of his trailer. It was like getting hit in the face with a shotgun.
Had an 18 wheeler ahead of me shoot a small chunk of concrete in a parabolic arc over the windscreen of my Fiat 1800 Spyder convertible and into my forehead. Almost wrecked the car, as I thought I'd been shot as well. Managed to pull over bleeding and somewhat dazed (now I almost know what Goliath felt like). Had it been a little bigger, I'd have been toast.
I'm all for secured tarps and heavy mud-flaps.
- SEAGOON
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yes... I am a sunny day rider who eschews the value of the protection offered by dual golden earings and womens sunglasses and a scarf.
my ears do fine without earings and my sunglasses are the male version which seem to work quite well and I have hair so don't really need a scarf.
What is enjoyable about riding in the rain?
lazs
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Originally posted by Flatbar
'nuff said :)(http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y297/Flatbar/Bugs.jpg)
A lil hot water rinse; and bug soup. Yummy.
...next time yah shave, put a blade in the razor.
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Was tooling over a mountain pass in southern CA heading towards AZ and saw this dot coming at me. It did a nice barrel roll and slamed into my right cheek at over 90 mph. Was wearing a good pair of sunglasses. Bug slim was all over both lenses. My cheek was numb.
Nearly dumped the bike.
Pulled over at the next gas station and washed bug off my face and OUT of my skin for about 1/2 an hour. Checked into sickbay when I got to my duty station and they also washed bug outa my skin for a little while.
Think it was a big beetle of some kind. Very glad it wasn't a bee.
HURT!
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Be happy he didn't smile for the picture.
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i'll post it...Graphixone@verizon.net
NUTTZ
P.S. The crankshaft was broken right behind the timing gears.
Originally posted by lazs2
I don't wear those head scarve thingies... especially with smiley faces on em..
And I don't wear earings or womens sunglasses.
other than that..
oh,, If someone wants to post it I will send a pic of why you don't just get bugs from motorcycles.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
What is enjoyable about riding in the rain?
lazs
Lazs, thought you were the "biker" that none of us were or understood. And it turns out your just one of those sunny day only Harley riders.
I'd rate some of my most fun adventures,rides,touring,racing that I've ever done have been in the rain all seasons day or night.
It's fun because you enjoy bikes no matter what the weather. And just consider the elements part of what it's all about. While laughing at those that you only ever see when it's fine and how much their missing out.
Another point is when it comes to racing, if you practice in the wet when all the other ladies are still in bed. You'll become quicker 100 times faster then a dry road only rider. And after all your wet weather riding, riding in the dry feels like cheating and you can blitz anyone on anything as you know what balance,sliding,control is all about far more then the next guy.
Plus with all that experience and practice when it's wet or dry you can take any bike and drift it through corners which is an incredible blast no matter what your on.
...-Gixer
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Thats a picture of Lazs isn't it. He Hates Windshields and Helmets too!
:rofl :rofl
And Winnebagos trying to pass as motorcycles.
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Gixer I tried to explain this to them already. They Don't understand. It isn't their fault. I Pity them. Whilst I see the world, improve my skills, meet some great people ( my wife included) get the most from my bike, have an all round blast come rain shine or snow! they are moping around waiting for the perfect sunny conditions to ride in at 55mph with a bug infested face but a very shiny tractor. I know which kind of biker I'd rather be.
( yeah I know you got a beemer Lazs but you spout the sunny sunday harley riding type crap )
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Bet Laz would be one of those that would trailer his Hog to Sturgis or even Laughlin.
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sent it to ya nuttz.. Was pretty sure it had to be broke there even tho I never seen one do that.
Ok girls... First off.. I live in California.. it rains like 10 or 15 days a year here. When I rode Harleys I lived on the damn things but those days are over. It was NEVER fun to ride in the rain. It was never fun to camp out under the bike with the rain coming down or have semi's (big trucks for you island folk) throwing tidal waves of water at you.
Now.. I don't even ride a Harley... My son gave me an old 750 BMW that is fun to take out on nice days.... Just like my Healey.
I have the Healey and the bike for nice days. they are fun toys. I have a big block el camino 6 speed for days and nights that are freezing bellybutton cold or raining and it is a lot of fun to drive too.
And... why the hell would I go to sturgis anyway?
point is.. I don't live on some tiny little rain forest of an island and I don't race bikes. I don't want to ruin the experiance of sunny and good day riding by having a two wheeled winnebago and spending 20 minutes dressing up just to ride.
To do so is taking away from the freedom that is topless roadsters and motorcycles. If you aren't good enough or can't afford to race cars then you probly will have to suffer a little I guess. When I dragrace or autocross it is very comfortable and not that much hassle.
I look out at my small collection of vehicles and pick the one that I am gonna enjoy the most for the trip I am taking.
If riding in the rain is so enjoyable then why aren't you doing it in your street clothes on a bike that looks like a motorcycle?
lazs
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Your a Lost cause mate! ;)
A Semi Retired Biker I guess.
Your very lucky to have such a selection of vehicles. My salary won't run to owning a motor museum;) A house and touring, and all the other things I enjoy in life. I guess you pays your money and takes your choice. No problem with that. Just a problem with you telling us that your way is right and mine and, Gixer for example, are wrong or that somehow what we do doesn't make us Bikers. ( sorry that was Jackal wasn't it ) Anyhow I think you are missing something and no doubt you think the same of us.
Ce La Vie ( spelling aint my forte ) as they say in that other fine place to ride, France.
P.S as for riding in Street clothes that would be pretty dumb wouldn't it? Bet even when you rode your Harleys you wore leather jacket gloves and boots at the minimum. Come to think of it thats what I ride in, look at the pics, Just add the Lid as my head is precious and I only got one!
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skyprancer... if you read the thread it is you and gixer who are the ones saying that the only true bikers do it your way.
My point was that a bike should be enjoyed... just like any vehicle otherewise we all might as well drive prius's
My opinion is that I can find hundreds of enjoyable days to ride if I want that I can wear the clothes I wear for anything else... I don't have to get all costumed out... I want a bike that allows me to see and here and feel the wind... I want no helmet smell... I want to smell what is going on around me.
Last weekend I drove the Healey and rode the bike and enjoyed both.
I would rather enjoy the time I spent rather than just rack up time no matter what.
In America it is not at all uncommon for people to have a house and a car and a hot rod and a bike with maybe a boat or ski doo thingie thrown in... maybe a race car and trailer too.
Oh and guns... we have guns.... lots and lots of guns. I am gonna get those removable saddlebags to carry my guns in when I go shooting and feel like taking the bike.
It's about quality of life not quantity of doing.
I allready been where you are.. you haven't got to where I am yet.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
skyprancer... if you read the thread it is you and gixer who are the ones saying that the only true bikers do it your way.
My point was that a bike should be enjoyed... just like any vehicle otherewise we all might as well drive prius's
My opinion is that I can find hundreds of enjoyable days to ride if I want that I can wear the clothes I wear for anything else... I don't have to get all costumed out... I want a bike that allows me to see and here and feel the wind... I want no helmet smell... I want to smell what is going on around me.
Last weekend I drove the Healey and rode the bike and enjoyed both.
I would rather enjoy the time I spent rather than just rack up time no matter what.
In America it is not at all uncommon for people to have a house and a car and a hot rod and a bike with maybe a boat or ski doo thingie thrown in... maybe a race car and trailer too.
Oh and guns... we have guns.... lots and lots of guns. I am gonna get those removable saddlebags to carry my guns in when I go shooting and feel like taking the bike.
It's about quality of life not quantity of doing.
I allready been where you are.. you haven't got to where I am yet.
lazs
Maybe Skyprancer and Dixer will realize it your OPINION lazs, I doubt it though.
Karaya
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An Opinion is fine but an open mind is better!
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experiance is even better. experiance on both sides is best. I have been where you are with the elitism of "true bikers ride no matter how misserable they are"
I posted picks of me on a bike after my leg had been sewn back on. I had to extend the right front peg and strap the crutches across the handlebars. The vibration would break the cast and probly caused the leg to take longer to heal... it would bleed through the cast... turned a brownish color.
Oh... and you had to kick start that old 74. I learned to kick left legged.
could I say that unless you have done that then you are just a "fair weather" rider?
lazs
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Originally posted by Skydancer
I Pity them. Whilst I see the world, improve my skills, meet some great people ( my wife included) get the most from my bike, have an all round blast come rain shine or snow! they are moping around waiting for the perfect sunny conditions to ride in at 55mph with a bug infested face but a very shiny tractor. I know which kind of biker I'd rather be.
LOL I pity you that you don't have a car to drive in inclement weather. And nobody "mopes around, waiting for sunny days" where we live- the sun will be out every day between now and the end of September, so boating, bicycling and motorcycles can all be enjoyed without rain every day for the next 3=4 months.
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yeah... it's a real hardship to have to drive a big block 6 speed el camino with hotchkiss susspension around when the weather gets bad for a couple of months...
even then... the weather breaks for a few hours even when it is at its worst.
I will tell you a secret.. guys in cars seeing you riding in the rain and snow aren't envious. In fact... a lot of em who were thnking of getting a bike say to themselves... "maybe that wasn't one of my better ideas."
lazs
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These "motorcycle enthusiasts" at it again? :)
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I have a car! A beat up old Skoda. Reliable as hell I can chuck dogs, and all the other crap I need to in it when it realy is a must but other than that it stays on the drive. It does me just fine. driving isn't a pleasure its an activity to be endured when I have to.
I never thought anyone was envious and frankly I don't care. I ride as and when I want to. I've travelled most of Europe in good weather and bad. I've met some great people, had a few hair raising ( less of that nowadays as theres notso much hair ) times and a few perfect times too. All in all I'm pretty damn happy.
Yeah it would be nice if the sun shone all the time but I don't live in that kind of place. But would you want us all to Lazs? If we did your quiet corner of the backwoods would become one of those cities that you so dislike. Besides I quite like my little Island.
The essential point is that its fine to hold an opinion but what you are doing is telling us we are wrong. Period. That ain't an opinion thats the biggotry you so profess to dislike.
I think you are pretty lucky but that doesn't make your way right and mine wrong! I think I'm pretty lucky too.
And I'll keep my Helmet as it performs two usefull functions. It keeps my precious head safe and keeps those bugs out of my teeth eye whatever.
I suppose in essence I would give Gixer more time if I met him on the road than you because he sounds like a guy with something to talk about when it comes to bikes but hey I'm forming an opinion based on a BBs conversation I could be wrong!
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Originally posted by Jackal1
These "motorcycle enthusiasts" at it again? :)
You mean guys who drive their bikes whether it rains water, snow or old angry women ?
Those who use bike every day like some use car?
Those who know the fun starts when RPM needle reaches numbers where HD's pistons would be crushing your balls?
If so then you're right :)
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For the record and for the visualy challenged..:cool:
WINEBAGO
(http://www.olathefordrv.com/Winnebago/Sunrise/sunruse.jpg)
TRIUMPH DAYTONA
(http://www.triumphrat.net/albums/album634/aaz.sized.jpg)
:lol :lol :aok
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Yea, they both have the same accesories. The bottom one is just butt ugly.
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Get a stick!
:aok
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Hey Jackal... Face the fact; You boys are amateurs with bikes :)
(http://www.students.tut.fi/~anakaine/gallery/images/talviralli2005/thumbLARGE_pict3599.jpg)
(http://www.students.tut.fi/~anakaine/gallery/images/Talviajot_Ramsoo_2005/thumbLARGE_pict3774.jpg)
(http://www.students.tut.fi/~anakaine/gallery/images/Talviajot_Ramsoo_2005/thumbLARGE_pict3752.jpg)
http://www.students.tut.fi/~anakaine/gallery/talviralli20050.html
http://www.students.tut.fi/~anakaine/gallery/Talviajot_Ramsoo_20050.html
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Ha Ha Staga. That looks like top fun.
Now wheres my Cossack Urinal Sidecar outfit :rofl :aok
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Originally posted by Staga
Hey Jackal... Face the fact; You boys are amateurs with bikes :)
What does the pictures you posted have to do with bikes?
Aren`t your boyfriends waiting for you in the shower...........eeerrrr sauna?
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Methinks this guy Jackal is unable ever to concede a point!?
Poor old fella his mind is locked down so tight I doubt if an origional thought will ever escape.!
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Naah he's quite funny guy in his own way; I bet he would have time of his life partying in that "WinterRally" in Lappland in northern Finland.
Would be funny to see him driving on ice :D
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Methinks this guy Jackal is unable ever to concede a point!?
Poor old fella his mind is locked down so tight I doubt if an origional thought will ever escape.!
Haven`t ever seen a point made by you or Showerboy . So we may never know.
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Originally posted by Staga
Would be funny to see him driving on ice :D
The last Cop that saw me riding on ice must not have had your sense of humor. He didn`t find it all funny.
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Looks cold... thank kod it's summer now...
(http://www.mp69.fi/kuvat/talviralli04/photos/ralli-16.jpg)
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Looks abit like our Dragon rally or the Elefant rally.
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Laz asked me to post these
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze89ceb/laz1.jpg)
(http://mysite.verizon.net/vze89ceb/laz2.jpg)
NUTTZ
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Laz, awsome!!
We had an Austin 3000 with an aluminium tempest v-6 in it.. incredible! Never went that fast, that low, before or since!
Nice car!
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if you own a brit car, why the scottish git look?
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skyprancer... quit yer cryin.. You tell us that "real bikers" are whatever it is you like and then you tell us cars are "cages" that are to be endured and that all the guys in Rover's are envious of you when they drive by and then....
you tell me to be more open minded and less prejudiced.
All cars are not skodas. I get more wind in the face in the car you see in those pictures than you get in your plastic warrior all dressed up in your motorcycle costume.
I would also say that if you were a little more open minded you would realize that driving a big block el camino is pretty darn fun.
and torque? I have no idea what you are talking about but if is that I look Scottish... My grandfather imigrated here from Scotland.
staga... if I had to be in the snow... I would take any one of those bikes for a spin. I have no idea how I would do but I allways like to do new things. I hate the cold and snow tho so I would probly not invest in a bike for the snow or (god forbid) move anywhere close tot the white crap.
lazs
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hang... the 331 in my car makes a tiny bit more hP than the V6 I would think. You would enjoy the ride. For us old guys...
It's an "E" ticket ride.
lazs
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I clearly remember being able to drop my arm over the door and pick up a pack of smokes lying on the ground..without leaning.
Yup.. an 'E' ticket ride. At a 120 yah felt like you were closing on the sound barrier. If yah opened your mouth, yer lips could flog yah to death. Gawdamned thing rode like buckboard.. hittin a pencil at that speed felt like it could launch it airborne. Damn, it was fun!
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Hangtime, Lazs was kind enough to start it for me when me and the Missus dropped in on him- he apologized beforehand cause he hqdn't started it in weeks, reached in, turned the key and the thing fired up by the second tooth it touched on the flywheel.
He reved it a few times, we left and that night my wife and I had great sex- the only time it's been better is after we went shooting one time. Since then I've poked holes in the muffler on my Taurus, but it's just not the same.
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yep... to get in I haveta stand on the seat and slide in. I can reach over and pick things up off the ground.. Monday, I blipped the throttle on up to a hunert or so and my girlfriend said she wasn't riding in the car again till she got goggles.
I am just ribbing these 'real bikers"... I used to be just as narrow minded and full of myself when I lived on the old Harley. Everyone rode injured and if you didn't ride with plaster you weren't a "real biker"
These days.... I like to enjoy myself. I would ride those snow bikes in snow bear country around that little track till I got cold and then go find a fire or something.... the days of showing everone what a tough guy I am by riding in adverse weather are long gone.... I suppose that I could still do it but.... why?
gixer claims that some of the best times he had on his bike were in bad weather.... no doubt... he (and skyprancer live with bad weather) but.... I say that those times would have been even better with perfect weather.
lazs
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For some reasons nice things that happen when you're wet, cold and freezed stays better in my memory than things when all was okay... and it's those little things that matter.
Like riding in a rain hundred or two kilometers and seeing how sun becomes to shine, warms the weather and beguns to warm yourself at the same.
Or driving at the night with a bike with crappy lights and seeing how morning sun beguns to shine.
Or just getting back home from a little trip with wet clothes, hungry and tired and getting a glass of good Scotch and a cigar.
It's all in little details :)
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Originally posted by Airhead
Hangtime, Lazs was kind enough to start it for me when me and the Missus dropped in on him- he apologized beforehand cause he hqdn't started it in weeks, reached in, turned the key and the thing fired up by the second tooth it touched on the flywheel.
He reved it a few times, we left and that night my wife and I had great sex- the only time it's been better is after we went shooting one time. Since then I've poked holes in the muffler on my Taurus, but it's just not the same.
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ROFL....
gawd, that's priceless. I'd be over ta Laz's rentin' that english lizard once a week if I wuz you. ;)
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep... to get in I haveta stand on the seat and slide in. I can reach over and pick things up off the ground.. Monday, I blipped the throttle on up to a hunert or so and my girlfriend said she wasn't riding in the car again till she got goggles.
I am just ribbing these 'real bikers"... I used to be just as narrow minded and full of myself when I lived on the old Harley. Everyone rode injured and if you didn't ride with plaster you weren't a "real biker"
These days.... I like to enjoy myself. I would ride those snow bikes in snow bear country around that little track till I got cold and then go find a fire or something.... the days of showing everone what a tough guy I am by riding in adverse weather are long gone.... I suppose that I could still do it but.... why?
gixer claims that some of the best times he had on his bike were in bad weather.... no doubt... he (and skyprancer live with bad weather) but.... I say that those times would have been even better with perfect weather.
lazs
Yup.. have made it to the point where 'been there, done that' is better than doin' it all over again. Knowin what yah can do and NOT doing it wisdom.. and that's good enuff for my old bones.
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Originally posted by lazs2
gixer claims that some of the best times he had on his bike were in bad weather.... no doubt... he (and skyprancer live with bad weather) but.... I say that those times would have been even better with perfect weather.
lazs
Actually no, it was the weather and road conditions at the time that made those rides more interesting and memoraiable for one reason or the other then normal.
When it came ot racing I always enjoyed wet tracks as I always felt very confident in the wet compared to other riders.
...-Gixer
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well... maybe but I doubt it.. unless by "memerable" you simply mean... stay in your mind.
I will agree with you. the time I almost got frostbite in jan. riding 130 miles at 2 in the am and when I pulled my gloves off and put my hands in cold water they burned for 20 miuntes... that was "memerable" sleeping under the bike and trying to decide if it is better to use your leather jacket for a half shelter across the bike or to wear it for protection from a night of freezing rain... that is "memerable".
racing a sunbeam tiger in the freezing fog and damn near losing it on every corner... that is "memerable"
I still drive old stuff that may break down (hey... I built it) but... I have a cell phone and tripple a card these days not a bit like the old days with 5 bucks in your pocket and the motor making a deep ugly metalic noise a couple hundred miles from home with no dash lights.
nope... it's all degree guys... I bet you never rode with a cast up to your hip... that don't mean that every person in plaster was "envious" of me because they were only "fair health" riders.
If you really were into it then you wouldn't have fairings and full motorcycle costumes... you would do it all in levis and a tee shirt or maybe jacket and sunglasses. I drive cars in the rain with less protection to em than what you guys are doing on your bikes. You are in a cocoon.... isolated from the whole motorcycle experiance in my opinion... or, at least, to a great degree... certainly more than I ever was.
lazs
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Guess I'm pervert or something but some of my fodliest memories are from trips made in rain or after rain. For example I was riding back from summerhome with a GSX750 (Plastic; Hell Yeah!) at the fall and almost flipped in a turn; a maple had dropped its leaves on road and I had a "situation" on.
Oh well; now when I think about it I also remember how frigging beautiful that road was with all the colours of the fall, all those nice different turns and hills, driving thru the country side.
It's all in little details :)
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Lazs,
I think your completely missing my point. For me memoriable is many reasons not just because of uncomfort due to the conditions. I enjoy riding on wet roads and conditions just as much as dry.
...-Gixer
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no.... I think you guys are missing the point. I allready been there and know what I am "missing"
Did you even look at that car? the windshield folds flat. I can see and smell and have the wind in my face. It makes a really neat noise too. I doubt that either of you guys could drive it very well but that is not important... you would have fun. when the streets are wet or it is freezing out... that car is a lot more fun than some plastic warrior and being all suited up in a motorcycle costume.... numbed from the world... killing everything that is the bike experiance except for the speed and being on the edge part.. In that car I can dress the same as I would to walk to the store.
Last night it was 80 degrees out and calm with no humidity. I fired up the BMW and put on the silly novelty cap/helmet and went for about a 40 minute ride around town and in the country in a tee shirt. smell stuff in bloom... smell the different resteraunts and lookat the people walking around.. I didn't have to be reving 12-16 grand to be enjoying myself.
You guys are no different than I was... you just haven't done it long enough to get bored with it. or even see what you are doing.
gixer is a little different... he isn't riding... he is practicing in the wet so that he can race. Not much point in that for most of us so he really doesn't have a point.
Staga lives in snow bear country where he either rides with the snow bears or not much at all..
skyprancer lives in mold country where if you don't ride in the rain you don't ride at all and... the government does everything in its power to kill any fun you might have in a car unless you are knioghted or very rich. soon they will be regulating (even more) his motorcycle but he blissfully is unaware.
lazs
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Lazs Driving a big block open top spoort car is fun until you hit the inevitable tailback, roadworks, whatever. Then it just becomes another cage. Maybe they never fix the roads put up lights, or even nobody else drives where you live. If so good for you but my reality is a little different.
I'm well aware of the Eurocrats attempts to legislate against us. Thats why I joined MAG thats why I rode all the Demo runs in the 90s that protested the 100bhp limit, for motorcycles only I might add, and generaly I choose to ride a big powerfull bike rather than a little commuter or whizbang. But there ya go I suppose you still think I got my head in the sand!
As for wearing Kit didn't you mention a Leather Jacket? And When I started riding no we didn't have all this cocoon stuff you go on about. Thing is now we got it I can ride longer harder further and enjoy it more cos it works and keeps the "mold off" I've ridden with a wrist in a cast and pins in my legs. Not to be hard present an image or whatever but because I enjoy it.
Funny isn't it. I think America is pretty good andf you guys are lucky in many ways. I happen to think that Your Leader is an bellybutton but thats only one American.
You on the other hand have never as far as I can remember managed to say one good thing about our fair and pleasent land. Biggotry might I suggest Mr Lazs?;) :lol
Oh sod it Its sunny warm and I'm off out on my bike see yah.
:D :aok
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again... you aren't paying attention. You are narrowmindedly seeing things only as they apply to your little part of the world.
I have lots of open road where I live my Healey (small block not big block btw.. camino is a big block) My Healey is quite capable of passing in very tight situations too.
If I am going to my folks say with the granddaughter in her childs seat in the Lincoln Town car (my other car) and I get stuck in some traffic... No big deal ... I talk with the girlfriend... drink a beverage and listen to satalite radio in leather seated climate controled comfort... I don't envy the guy splitting lanes on a neon warrior and ninja suit at all because it does not apply to my situation AT THE TIME.
How are you guys gonna get the kids around... you do have kids right? I mean... you can't have missed out on what life is really all about can you?
Contrast and variety is good... for you guys the height of variety is simply doing the same old thing in different weather conditions... for me... it is enjoying the whole spectrum of vehicles... each with it's own personality.
can you imagine riding the BMW then getting into the Healey and then the el camino and maybe going out latter in the Town Car... all in the same day/weekend?
I also like to tinker... It is fun to work on/improve the elky or healey or now.. the BMW.
It is fun to be "in your face" in old vehicles bareheaded and not invisible on a same same plastic warrior in a ninja suit..
I don't have trouble finding my crap in a parking lot.
lazs
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Damn. I enjoyed that.
one thing I really miss about the west...
the west.
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Originally posted by Airhead
Since then I've poked holes in the muffler on my Taurus, but it's just not the same.
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Air....... this is risky but you might want to try it.
Have you considered "unprotected" sex?
Just go ahead and rip the whole muffler off... go for it man!
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skyprancer...also... maybe I don't say enough good things about your island.
I admire the courage and humor and warmth of your people... I admire your stick to it ness in the face of overwhelming odds 9stiff upper lip and all that). I admire your sense of honor.
I despise your politics and your canine like devotion to the upper class and government. I despise your weather and I get claustrophobic on islands. I don't like your roads or gas prices or traffic or having to drive on the wrong side of the road or shifting with my left hand.
When I was a kid we used to ask my grandfather (when he got drunk enough) about his home... Scotland... His reply was allways.."it was a cold misserable rock laddie" I visited there later in life and find there was a lot of truth to his somewhat dour assesment.
I find the island pleasant to visit but would put it in the bottom ten or so of places I would live.
lazs
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"I find the ......... pleasant to visit but would put it in the bottom ten or so of places I would live."
Bit Like How I feel about the USA.
I got that British Stick at it ness in the face odf overwhelming odds thing I think :lol :aok
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lazs' car = sexiest ever.
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skyprancer.... the US is a big place. You could live in just about any climate you liked. Northwest could imitate the mold formations found on all your damp stuff in england. Even fog. You can see the ocean in lots of places here.
Most places you would have to drive on the correct side of the road so it couldn't be that which causes you to not want to live in the US.
You would be able to keep more of what you earned and gas would be cheap. so it couldn't be that.
There is no law that says you have to own a gun you get to choose (unless you are a felon or beat your wife)so it couldn't be that.
People here speak an understandable english and with practice.... you could speak understandably so... it can't be that.
Bush lives in the white house and most of us have never even really seen him so it can't be that..
You can buy a home here if you make a decent living so it can't be that.
I give up.... what would make you put the US at the bottom ten places to live?
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:lol
Maybe I didn't look hard enuff ewhen I was there but after traveling 3000 miles round the place, despite all the advantages you undoubtably have, I hankered after a bit of cultural diversity. I got tired of eating the same old things wherever I went, seeing the same old stuff, and most of all despite meeting some very cool people I got tired of the " we are the best our country is the best " rhetoric that often popped up.
The US is an undeniably beautifull place with some great people and some great history but ultimately a bit too samey for me.
Here if I travel 3000 miles I can visit several different countries, where I'll hear a variety of different toungues, be exposed to a variety of different ideas, cultures, some great art some realy ancient history, facinating architecture, and I can find some beatifull scenery. I like the UK because it helps I can speak English, I'm proud of "most" of what this nation has achieved, and its a great base for visiting other places, just a short hop accross the Channel. I'm pretty happy with that. Yes there are many things I'd like to change about it but on Balance it's OK. If I was to live anywhere else I think Germany or Northern Italy might be good. I like the Czech republic too. Or maybe for a short time Kenya as that was fantasticaly interesting too. I'd even consider the US just that it wouldn't be top of my list.
Hope that answers your question.
Despite the fact we are like chalk and cheese you are an interesting entity to converse with. Don't agree with you much but that doesn't matter.
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I have an older friend that restores Austin-Healeys and sometimes puts japanese motors in them. I have had the pleasure of driving a 3000 with a twin-turbo nissan V6 in it, passed a cop at about 90mph and proceeded to ditch him, yeehaw! He sold a bug-eye sprite to another of my good friends. Has a Ford 5 liter HO motor in it! 0-60 in 3 seconds. Smacks your head into the roll-bar real good when it shifts. BTW my friend only has one leg so this car has a 3 spd automatic and a gas pedal on the left side of the brake pedal also! My housemate has a spitfire with a 2 liter nissan motor, souped up, spins about 8K. Small cars are fun!
g00b
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skyprancer... cultural diviersity??? your country is like 97% exceptionaly pale white guys with bad teeth..
Here... I you want mexican food you get mexican food... probly made by mexicans and you will probly be eating with mexicans...
canada and mexico both border us and Alaska and hawaii are both states... you can cruise down to central/south America on a bike if you want too.
probly less difference between france and germany than there is between new york and los angeles
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
skyprancer... cultural diviersity??? your country is like 97% exceptionaly pale white guys with bad teeth..
lazs
Yeah and 97% of Americans are all rednecks who marry their relatives, drive pickup trucks rifles in racks in rear window and confederate flag flying in their radio antenna.
Last 3 percent are Chinese and Canadians.
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I absolutely HATE riding in the rain. It is wet, cold and frigging dangerous.
I cannot belive that some of you claim to prefer riding in rain over a sunny day...it is just weird.
lazs:
"cultural diviersity??? your country is like 97% exceptionaly pale white guys with bad teeth.. "
lol....
...and I love the fact that lazs likens cultural diversity to how close he is to Taco Bell. ;)
LOL...just too funny...all of you.
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staga.... The U.S. is not 97% anything. It is far more diverse than either england or your country.
curval... I do live near a taco bell and about 4 family owned mexican resteraunts. You are just gonna have to take my word for it... we have real mexicans here. Lots of em.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
curval... I do live near a taco bell and about 4 family owned mexican resteraunts. You are just gonna have to take my word for it... we have real mexicans here. Lots of em.
lazs
Wow...okay. So if having Mexicans near you makes you very cultural I guess you win.
The big winner of course is Mexico proper.
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Oh, I don't know....I live on a cul-de-sac in Middle America, about as bland as you can get, and just on my street alone we have this diversity:
-1 Family from Taiwan
-1 Family from Cambodia (OK, 4 families living in that 1 house)
-1 Family from Canada (they like Ice Bears)
-1 weird combination couple (He from the US, she is from Canada,)...They met in Saudi when they were both working there in the Medical field
-1 Couple where the wife is from Italy.
-Our house where my wife is from Italy.
-The family next to us is from Cuba.
-Behind us is a family from India.
Hmmm...no Mexicans though.....
Now that's just on my street. It doesn't count the sub-division I live in. And like I said, this is about as stereo-typical middle-class America as you can get.
Yeah, it's not diverse here at all.
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Well String...it isn't diversity we are after here...it is culture.
Sorry, no Mexicans means no culture.
:(
Wait...re-read...we are actually talking about cultural diversity. So...I think you might be okay. Still, get some Mexicans in the hood will ya...geeze.;)
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Originally posted by Staga
Yeah and 97% of Americans are all rednecks who marry their relatives, drive pickup trucks rifles in racks in rear window and confederate flag flying in their radio antenna.
Last 3 percent are Chinese and Canadians.
Don`t know anyone who has married their relative.
And yes where I live you are free to carry a rifle or shotgun in your pickup. You are also free to carry it in a window rack if you so desire.
I find a Confederate flag puts too much stress on the antennae, even a small one.
My stars and bars is displayed in front of my house along with the U.S. flag. And yes you are free to do that if you so desire.
There is also a virtual cornucopia of folks with family heritages from around the globe in my area.
Man all this freedom is really a downer, huh?
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Lazs
I'm not talking about ethnicity. I'm talking about the wider culture. One part of the US is much like another just different scenery. The same cannot be said for Europe!
I wasn't saying England or the UK is particularly diverse in itself. What I was saying is that as a small Island very close to the very diverse continent of Europe I can access all kinds of different cultures views etc etc by taking a short ride over the channel (or under it ) and hitting the road. I've just spent two weeks in a part of the world very different to the one I live in and it was what maybe 1500 miles from home! Different scenery, history, three different indigenous languages ( italian, German and Ladin )food you name it it was different. Thats why I like the UK because I can travel from it and find new stuff on my doorstep.
I travel 3000miles I can visit maybe 3 or 4 different countries. Unlike my experience of the US. I think you miss understood me or decided deliberately to missunderstand me?
Curval. I'm certainly not saying that Id take rain over nice dry roads for riding, but I wouldn't let rain stop me riding. It aint more dangerous if you have good tyres, moderate your speed and ride accordingly. As Gixer says if you can ride well in inclement conditions as well as perfect ones then you are a more skilled rider.
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ahh... CULTURAL DIVERSITY.... I see... you are talking about old buildings and different kinds of roads and toilets and the babel that the tower was famous for.... throw in some castles and some ignorance that is ingrained from centuries of bigotry...
the stuff world wars are made of. Yeah... I get it.
Seperate but equal... well... seperate anyway... like driving to any big city and hitting china town.
you want your "diversity" at a lot longer distance than arms length... Not something you want for your country but something you go on vacation to see and gawk at.... sorta like... yurop as a theme park... a sometimes violent theme park but so long as you are just watching the native dancers or eating the native dish... all is well and you can go back home to your 97% same same country when you get your fill of "diversity".
course... there are all the old buildings and castles and such so it's not a total loss.
lazs
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sure sky, like the states isn't a hybrid europe minus the borders. sure europe might have a few point but the wealth of the states trumps that large.
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Originally posted by Skydancer
It aint more dangerous if you have good tyres, moderate your speed and ride accordingly. As Gixer says if you can ride well in inclement conditions as well as perfect ones then you are a more skilled rider.
I disagree.
You have to rely on everyone else on the road having good tyres and skills...be they riding a bike or driving a car.
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Jackal you're not the brightest bulp in a lamp store?
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Curval that works in every season whether it's raining water or snow or sunny or not.
When riding think anyone in road is after you; little schitsophrenia keeps motorbiker alive much longer :D
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Originally posted by Staga
Jackal you're not the brightest bulp in a lamp store?
Your battery was issued without a charge. :)
-----> bulb<------ Class dismissed.
Anyone know anything about the chain manufacturing industry?
I`m just curious how it came about that out of all the thousands and thousands of chains made each year that they just made these two painted dayglo pink with a "Yank Me" sign attached to the end. :)
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Lazs Its OK mate. I'll keep my diverse historicaly rich, sometimes violent undoubtably rich varied and facinating place over here and you can continue to enjoy your US monoculture. We'll both be very happy I'm sure of that.
Oh just for the record I live in Birmingham, a city with quite a few faces from the Indian subcontinent, Africa, the Caribean, Ireland and Europe. A very culturaly diverse place in this land of supposed uniformity. Our top food based night out usualy involves Naan bread and Balti. Not packaged in Styrofoam labled with a corporate label and identical wherever you go in the country. Just one example of the rich and varied delights to be found in this but one of many very different European nations.
By the way it seems you guys are overtaking us in the starting global conflicts industry!
Curval its beatifully sunny today. My ride to work was performed with the usual sceptisism of the ability of the rest of the half asleep cage drivers on the road. It went off just fine. I got there quicker had so much fun I took the longer route around the city and arrived with another grin on my face.
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Originally posted by Curval
I disagree.
You have to rely on everyone else on the road having good tyres and skills...be they riding a bike or driving a car.
True,
But I haven't been talking about the daily commute to work in the rain. I've been refering been refering to practicing on sections of road where there are a minimum amount of cars and maximum amount of corners per mile. Or even better the track.
The point I've been trying to make is that it's much easier to learn the limits of traction on the wet (though of course this takes a certin level of balls that most prefer to avoid in fear of dropping their pride and joy) then it is the dry. Which Is very difficult to reach on any bike on the road. Except for crusiers of course which seem to have about as much ground clearence as a golf cart. :)
Once you can corner and maintain good control in the wet riding on the dry is 100 times easier and feels like your cheating. Plus with training and experience you can learn the more fun aspects of corning bikes in the wet that you can't in the dry, drifting. :D
...-Gixer
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Oh yeah skyprancer... we got no indians here.... Let's put it this way... whatever food you can order there... we have ten times as much of.
I can't believe that you are complaining about the U.S. because...
because it is too big? The weather is too nice? you don't need a passport to go to the bordering countries?
If you think the U.S. is mono... what must you think of canada? or australia? NZ? They aren't near the great european theme park and old building museum that you call "diversity".
If you had the nads.... you could ride all the way from northern California down to the bottom of South America or, up to Alaska.
You seem to be saying that once yu are in America... you can't get anywhere else from here.
Granted... we don't travel to as many countries but then... we probly travel as much or more than you do. I am sure the average American puts more miles on his vehicle than the average brit. We simply have a lot more to see right here.
you still haven't said why the U.S. would be on the bottom ten places you would like to live.... most places except tiny little europe have worse choices and diversity than here so..
Why would you put the U.S. amoung the bottom ten places you would live?