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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripper29 on June 03, 2005, 04:36:00 PM
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I know this has been around for awhile, I have heard the song before but never seen the video clip. A little fun to start your weekend...
http://www.big-boys.com/articles/kosovo.html
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Nice!
Glad somebody is having fun in Kosovo (another fubar UN mission)
Protecting the same extremist muslims we'll end up fighting again.
Sould have let the Serbs do thier thing with those clowns.
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I think all christians should had been slaughtered already years ago; they were the ones bombing Belfast, attacking Poland in 1939 and in France in 1940, executing a genocide in Rwanda and blowing up state building in USA, killing Kennedy and M.L.King and who knows how many more :(
They sure are the plague; too bad Romans didn't feed them all to the lions.
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I personally was for the Serbs
The media portarys Serbiens as the evils ones.....far from the truth.
US forces in Iraq are facing muslims that have combat experiece from the Balkans.
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Of course I could just say _Ro_; boy You're "special" :)
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I think back then we had sympathy for them.
Now.......not so much...........
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wait wait...
We allies bombed the heck out of former Yugoslavia... but Who were wee supporting?
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Originally posted by _Ro_
I personally was for the Serbs
The media portarys Serbiens as the evils ones.....far from the truth.
US forces in Iraq are facing muslims that have combat experiece from the Balkans.
I have to ask...
Where are Your roots? Are You born American? How about Your parents?
Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo: An Accounting is a new chapter in our effort to document the extent of human rights and humanitarian law violations in Kosovo, and to convey the size and scope of the Kosovo conflict. The information in this report is drawn from refugee accounts, NGO documentation, press accounts, and declassified information from government and international organization sources.
The atrocities against Kosovar Albanians documented in this report occurred primarily between March and late June, 1999. This document is a follow-up to the U.S. Department of State's previous human rights report, Erasing History: Ethnic Cleansing in Kosovo, which was released on May 10, 1999.
A central question is the number of Kosovar Albanian victims of Serbian forces in Kosovo. Many bodies were found when KFOR and the ICTY entered Kosovo in June 1999. The evidence is also now clear that Serbian forces conducted a systematic campaign to burn or destroy bodies, or to bury the bodies, then rebury them to conceal evidence of Serbian crimes. On June 4, at the end of the conflict, the Department of State issued the last of a series of weekly ethnic cleansing reports, available at http://www.state.gov/www/regions/eur/rpt_990604_ksvo_ethnic.html concluding that at least 6,000 Kosovar Albanians were victims of mass murder, with an unknown number of victims of individual killings, and an unknown number of bodies burned or destroyed by Serbian forces throughout the conflict.
On November 10, 1999, ICTY Chief Prosecutor Carla Del Ponte told the U.N. Security Council that her office had received reports of more than 11,000 killed in 529 reported mass grave and killing sites in Kosovo. The Prosecutor said her office had exhumed 2,108 bodies from 195 of the 529 known mass graves. This would imply about 6,000 bodies in mass graves in Kosovo if the 334 mass graves not examined thus far contain the same average number of victims. To this total must be added three important categories of victims: (1) those buried in mass graves whose locations are unknown, (2) what the ICTY reports is a significant number of sites where the precise number of bodies cannot be counted, and (3) victims whose bodies were burned or destroyed by Serbian forces. Press accounts and eyewitness accounts provide credible details of a program of destruction of evidence by Serbian forces throughout Kosovo and even in Serbia proper. The number of victims whose bodies have been burned or destroyed may never be known, but enough evidence has emerged to conclude that probably around 10,000 Kosovar Albanians were killed by Serbian forces.
Death represents only one facet of Serbian actions in Kosovo.Over 1.5 million Kosovar Albanians--at least 90 percent of the estimated 1998 Kosovar Albanian population of Kosovo--were forcibly expelled from their homes. Tens of thousands of homes in at least 1,200 cities, towns, and villages have been damaged or destroyed. During the conflict, Serbian forces and paramilitaries implemented a systematic campaign to ethnically cleanse Kosovo--aspects of this campaign include the following:
• Forcible Displacement of Kosovar Albanian Civilians: Serbian authorities conducted a campaign of forced population movement. In contrast to actions taken during 1998, Yugoslav Army units and armed civilians joined the police in systematically expelling Kosovar Albanians at gunpoint from both villages and larger towns in Kosovo.
• Looting of Homes and Businesses: There are numerous reports of Serbian forces robbing residents before burning their homes. Another round of robbery occurred as Serbian forces stole from fleeing Kosovars as they crossed the border to Montenegro, Albania, or Macedonia.
• Widespread Burning of Homes: Over 1,200 residential areas were at least partially burned after late March, 1999. Kosovar Albanians have reported that over 500 villages were burned after March, 1999.
map• Use of Human Shields: Refugees claim that Serbian forces used Kosovar Albanians to escort military convoys and shield facilities throughout the province. Other reporting indicates that Serbian forces intentionally positioned ethnic Albanians at sites they believed were targets for NATO airstrikes.
• Detentions: Serbian forces systematically separated military-aged men from the general population as Kosovars were expelled. These men were detained in facilities ranging from cement factories to prisons. Many of these detainees were forced to dig trenches and were physically abused. At least 2,000 Kosovar Albanians remain in detention in around a dozen Serbian prisons today.
• Summary Executions: There are accounts of summary executions at about 500 sites across Kosovo.
• Exhumation of Mass Graves: Serbian forces burned, destroyed, or exhumed bodies from mass graves in an attempt to destroy evidence. Some were reinterred in individual graves.
• Rape: There are numerous accounts indicating that the organized and individual rape of Kosovar Albanian women by Serbian forces was widespread. For example, Serbian forces systematically raped women in Djakovica and Pec, and in some cases rounded up women and took them to hotels where they were raped by troops under encouragement of their commanders. Rape is most likely an underreported atrocity because of the stigma attached to the victims in traditional Kosovar Albanian society.
• Violations of Medical Neutrality: Kosovar Albanian physicians, patients and medical facilities were systematically attacked. Many health care facilities were used as protective cover for military activities; NGOs report the destruction by Serbian forces of at least 100 clinics, pharmacies, and hospitals.
• Identity Cleansing: Kosovar Albanians were systematically stripped of identity and property documents including passports, land titles, automobile license plates, identity cards, and other forms of documentation. As much as 50 percent of the population may be without documentation. By systematically destroying schools, places of worship, and hospitals, Serbian forces sought to destroy social identity and the fabric of Kosovar Albanian society.
• Aftermath: Following the withdrawal of Serbian forces in June, Kosovo saw manifestations of a new set of human rights problems. These include acts of retribution against the Serb minority, including the killing of 200-400 Serb residents. In addition, as many as 23,000 conscientious objectors, draft evaders, and deserters in Serbia are threatened with legal action.
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Oh source for that...
http://www.state.gov/www/global/human_rights/kosovoii/homepage.html
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I am Hungarian, born here in the USA
I would be more then happy to fight for the Serb's to kick Osama bin Laden's Balkan brigade (KLA) out of Kosovo.
In his Islamic Declaration, former Bosnian President Alija Izetbegovic (celebrated in the West as a multiculturalist) proclaimed, "There can be no peace or coexistence between the Islamic faith and non-Islamic societies and political institutions."
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While doing that would you also join to the gang rapes and summary executions with your Serbian friends or would you just turn your back and grab a beer?
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Your State Department link didn't do anything but justify former Pres. Clinton's olive branch waving.
You wave the Olive Branch too much sooner or later one gets smacked in the face with it.
and yes I like beer, no comment on the other two.
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Let me ask this way:
When your Serbian friends would throw a muslim woman in a bed and rip of her clothes and you would be standing between your friends and that woman which way would you look?
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Seggfej,
I would be looking out the window to make sure a 7.62mm round isn't heading for my head from KLA criminal.
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Looking out from the window? How convenient from You; just what I was expecting :)
Kapd be a faszomat.
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Originally posted by Staga
While doing that would you also join to the gang rapes and summary executions with your Serbian friends or would you just turn your back and grab a beer?
Staga, 200 (two hundreed) people were killed during "ethnic cleansings" before bombings began.
At least 2500 people were killed by NATO during criminal barbaric bombings of souverign Yugoslavia.
NATO supported a terrorist organisation called KLA. US Senate declared KLA a terrorist organisation in Autumn 1998, less then half-year before bombings began.
Now KFOR forces take care of Moslim terrorists killing, robbing and raping Serbs in Kosovo. Exactly the same thing that we had in Chechnya in 1991-94.
An interesting fact: after 1999 European drug trade is controlled by Albanian mafia.
BTW, your dadzebao from US DoS is a lie. No mass graves were found in Kosovo.
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Boroda I won't believe anything you say and even if I'd see it myself I would still be doubtful.
Actually you're so full of it I won't even bother to search more info about Your claims.
Sorry... hell no I'm not.
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Let me help you...........
http://www.alb-net.com/pipermail/alb-club/Week-of-Mon-20040719/018487.html (http://)
drugs=money=weapons for extremist muslim terrorists
BTW, your Hungarian is good :aok :rofl
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=150730&highlight=kosovo
:D
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Originally posted by GScholz3
Then why did you attack Serbia? Sounds a bit stupid of you to go bombing Serbia without UN authorization and then blame the UN.
That was a NATO mission.
Last time I checked Norway was a NATO member. Your choices in pronouns consist of "we" and "us"
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i was there on a month det from the 24th meu (uss nassau) in 2002.
camp bonsteel has the best chow ive ever had on any millitary installation.
not much left of that country though.
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Originally posted by _Ro_
I personally was for the Serbs
The media portarys Serbiens as the evils ones.....far from the truth.
US forces in Iraq are facing muslims that have combat experiece from the Balkans.
My congratulations !
I am glad that there are Americans who did not buy that war propaganda which portrayed the Serbs almost as bad as the Russians.
And thanks for reminding me about the fate of the Jugoslav president who is in jail without any verdict for years already.
:(
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
That was a NATO mission.
Last time I checked Norway was a NATO member. Your choices in pronouns consist of "we" and "us"
Yeah... And the Korean war was a UN mission, so the Ukraine, as a UN member, was fighting the North Korean agressors as the US ally.... Or maybe not ?
Can you name any US allies in the Korean war (but do not mention the Australians - they are the antipodes). :D
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Originally posted by genozaur
Yeah... And the Korean war was a UN mission, so the Ukraine, as a UN member, was fighting the North Korean agressors as the US ally.... Or maybe not ?
Can you name any US allies in the Korean war (but do not mention the Australians - they are the antipodes). :D
ROK, UK, Austrailia, New Zealand, Turkey, Belgium, Luxembourg, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, the Netherlands, the Philippines, Thailand... probably forgot someone...
The USSR didn't particularly like the allies in Korea and fought on the opposing side. Ukraine was part of the USSR.
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
ROK, UK, Austrailia, New Zealand, Turkey, Belgium, Luxembourg, Colombia, Ethiopia, France, Greece, the Netherlands, the Philippines, Thailand... probably forgot someone...
The USSR didn't particularly like the allies in Korea and fought on the opposing side. Ukraine was part of the USSR.
Well, if Yeltsin could get sober for several hours in 1999 and ordered volunteer interceptor pilots and SAMs to be sent to protect Yugoslavia - he could probably get more popular then Putin is now...
Funny that "mass graves" still remain in US DoS "documents". Most of them turned out to be freshly-plown fields.