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Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 07, 2005, 06:06:54 PM
While going over the USS Constitution thread I was thinking on how the story of that ship would make a good movie.

And even better one would be John Paul Jones And the Bonhomme Richard
 Culminating with the fight against the HMS Serapis where he uttered the now famous words "I have not yet begun to fight"

Would make a GREAT movie I think.

Another good one would be the story of the the Donner Party

The Donner Party (http://members.aol.com/DanMRosen/donner/)

"The Donner Party was the most famous tragedy in the history of the westward migration.  Almost ninety wagon train emigrants were unable to cross the Sierra Nevada before winter, and almost one-half starved to death."

What stories would you like to see made into movies?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Nilsen on June 07, 2005, 06:13:51 PM
Red Storm Rising.. and as it was written, not a scaled down version.

:)
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: oboe on June 07, 2005, 06:16:19 PM
Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe
The Mighty 8th
Cactus Air Force

Basically a WWII fighter pilot's movie with the great sound and visuals of Saving Private Ryan.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Roscoroo on June 07, 2005, 06:21:30 PM
they already made a donner party movie.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: JB73 on June 07, 2005, 06:22:11 PM
a WWII air battle movie about the whole eastern front and battle over berlin, concentrating on all sides, have 1 star for allieds, 1 star for LW, 1 star for russia.

swap between the stories, have the allied guy be a pony ace, LW a 190 ace (or Hartman), and the russian ace be an il2 pilot or yak pilot.

have it done in the fasion of "enemy at the gates" showing both sides (well all three sides) but not necessarily them fighting each other.

start the movie around 1943, and go forward in history until hitler dies.



it would be a 3 hour epic at least, but well worth it.

NO major CGI 500 plane battles like bravehart did with the soldiers... just good small or medium dogfights / occasional bomber escort, and attack. spend some time developing the charecters, and some flashbacks to them growing up, and show the similarities, like going hunting with their dad for the first time or something.

NO romantic interestes, except maybe an occasional flirtation with a nurse or something.

end the movie with them all old, thinking back to the war, they all survived.

maybe show the LW pilot not agreeing with the nazi agenda, and being torn between defending his country, and protesting the holocaust.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: JB73 on June 07, 2005, 06:22:43 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Red Storm Rising.. and as it was written, not a scaled down version.

:)
ohh thats good too
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: BlueJ1 on June 07, 2005, 06:24:05 PM
Wake Island.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 07, 2005, 06:28:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Roscoroo
they already made a donner party movie.


they did?
Whats it called?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 07, 2005, 06:29:31 PM
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Originally posted by Nilsen
Red Storm Rising.. and as it was written, not a scaled down version.

:)


LOL well for that matter I''d like to have seen Jurassic park made ALOT more like the book
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 07, 2005, 06:30:01 PM
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
they already made a donner party movie.


Who starred in it... Calista Flockhart?




The movie I'd like to see made is a farm animal adult video starring Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton.    
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Gh0stFT on June 07, 2005, 06:34:57 PM
-Manfred Freiherr von Richthofen, der rote Baron (the red baron) minimum 3 hour epic pls!

-Starwars VII,VIII,IX,
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: thrila on June 07, 2005, 06:39:53 PM
A film about the battle of Kohima (http://www.mod.uk/aboutus/history/kohima60/)  

or perhaps a film about Adrian Warburton (http://www.raf.mod.uk/ptc/warburton.html)  (i really recommend people to read his biography "Warburton's war")
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Skydancer on June 07, 2005, 06:52:13 PM
Any WW2 movie that actualy doesn't try to make out the yanks won it all by themselves! ;)

Oh Ok then how about a movie about Bomber Commmand. Maybe this

(http://shop.abc.net.au/multimediaitems/images/product_images/2/236338.jpg)

A great book and powerfull on audio. A film would be good.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: spitfiremkv on June 07, 2005, 07:04:49 PM
hey that was a great book! one of the best reads about WW2 Night Ops.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: BlueJ1 on June 07, 2005, 07:08:47 PM
The battle in the Aleutians during WWII would be nice too.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Shuckins on June 07, 2005, 07:11:03 PM
My tastes run this way:

Medieval History:   A movie about the Battle of Hastings and the colorful protagonists involved in it...Harold Godwineson and William Bastard of Normandy.   Great novel about these characters is "The Golden Warrior" by Hope Muntz.

WWII:  "The Last Dogfight" by Martin Caidin.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Rino on June 07, 2005, 07:52:06 PM
Invasion of the Giant Lawyer Eating Squid!
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 07, 2005, 08:51:25 PM
I've always hoped they would make a movie about the attack on Washington and Baltimore during the War of 1812 that caused Francis Scott Key to write the Star Spangled Banner.  Most history books gloss over that war, and there's tons of interesting history there.  I mean, tell me this doesnt sound like a good movie.

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The War of 1812 and the Burning of Washington

Although its events inspired one of our most famous national songs, the War of 1812 is itself a relatively little-known war in American history. Despite its complicated causes and inconclusive outcome, the conflict helped establish the credibility of the young United States among other nations. It also fostered a strong sense of national pride among the American people, and those patriotic feelings are reflected and preserved in the song we know today as our national anthem.

Britain’s defeat at the 1781 Battle of Yorktown marked the conclusion of the American Revolution and the beginning of new challenges for a new nation.  Not even three decades after the signing of the Treaty of Paris, which formalized Britain’s recognition of the United States of America, the two countries were again in conflict.  Resentment for Britain’s interference with American international trade and impressment of American sailors combined with American expansionist visions led Congress to declare war on Great Britain on June 18, 1812.  

In the early stages of the war, the American navy scored victories in the Atlantic and on Lake Erie while Britain concentrated its military efforts on its ongoing war with France. But with the defeat of Emperor Napoleon’s armies in April 1814, Britain turned its full attention to the war against an ill-prepared United States.  Admiral Alexander Cochrane, the British naval commander, prepared to attack U.S. coastal areas, and General Robert Ross sought to capture towns along the East Coast to create diversions while British army forces attacked along the northern boundaries of the United States.

In August 1814, General Ross and his seasoned troops landed near the nation’s capital. On August 24, at Bladensburg, Maryland, about 30 miles from Washington, his five-thousand-member British force defeated an American army twice its size. That same night, British troops entered Washington.  They set fire to the United States Capitol, the President’s Mansion, and other public buildings. The local militia fled, and President James Madison and wife Dolley barely escaped.

The Battle of Baltimore

With Washington in ruins, the British next set their sights on Baltimore, then America’s third-largest city. Moving up the Chesapeake Bay to the mouth of the Patapsco River, they plotted a joint attack on Baltimore by land and water.  On the morning of September 12, General Ross’s troops landed at North Point, Maryland, and progressed towards the city. They soon encountered the American forward line, part of an extensive network of defenses established around Baltimore in anticipation of the British assault. During the skirmish with American troops, General Ross, so successful in the attack on Washington, was killed by a sharpshooter. Surprised by the strength of the American defenses, British forces camped on the battlefield and waited for nightfall on September 13, planning to attempt another attack under cover of darkness.

Meanwhile, Britain’s naval force, buoyed by its earlier successful attack on Alexandria, Virginia, was poised to strike Fort McHenry and enter Baltimore Harbor.  At 6:30 AM on September 13, 1814, Admiral Cochrane’s ships began a 25-hour bombardment of the fort. Rockets whistled through the air and burst into flame wherever they struck. Mortars fired 10- and 13-inch bombshells that exploded overhead in showers of fiery shrapnel.  Major Armistead, commander of Fort McHenry and its defending force of one thousand troops, ordered his men to return fire, but their guns couldn’t reach the enemy’s ships. When British ships advanced on the afternoon of the 13th, however, American gunners badly damaged them, forcing them to pull back out of range. All through the night, Armistead’s men continued to hold the fort, refusing to surrender. That night British attempts at a diversionary attack also failed, and by dawn they had given up hope of taking the city.  At 7:30 on the morning of September 14, Admiral Cochrane called an end to the bombardment, and the British fleet withdrew. The successful defense of Baltimore marked a turning point in the War of 1812. Three months later, on December 24, 1814, the Treaty of Ghent formally ended the war.

Because the British attack had coincided with a heavy rainstorm, Fort McHenry had flown its smaller storm flag throughout the battle. But at dawn, as the British began to retreat, Major Armistead ordered his men to lower the storm flag and replace it with the great garrison flag. As they raised the flag, the troops fired their guns and played “Yankee Doodle” in celebration of their victory. Waving proudly over the fort, the banner could be seen for miles around—as far away as a ship anchored eight miles down the river, where an American lawyer named Francis Scott Key had spent an anxious night watching and hoping for a sign that the city—and the nation—might be saved.  

The Inspiration of Francis Scott Key: From Poem to Anthem

Before departing from a ravaged Washington, British soldiers had arrested Dr. William Beanes of Upper Marlboro, Maryland, on the charge that he was responsible for the arrests of British stragglers and deserters during the campaign to attack the nation’s capital.  They subsequently imprisoned him on a British warship.

Friends of Dr. Beanes asked Georgetown lawyer Francis Scott Key to join John S. Skinner, the U.S. government’s agent for dealing with British forces in the Chesapeake, and help secure the release of the civilian prisoner.  They were successful; however, the British feared that Key and Skinner would divulge their plans for attacking Baltimore, and so they detained the two men aboard a truce ship for the duration of the battle. Key thus became an eyewitness to the bombardment of Fort McHenry.

When he saw “by the dawn’s early light” of September 14, 1814, that the American flag soared above the fort, Key knew that Fort McHenry had not surrendered.  Moved by the sight, he began to compose a poem on the back of a letter he was carrying. On September 16, Key and his companions were taken back to Baltimore and released.  Key took a room in the Indian Queen Hotel and spent the night revising and copying out the four verses he had written about America’s victory. The next day he showed the poem to his wife’s brother-in-law, Judge Joseph Nicholson, who had commanded a volunteer company at Fort McHenry. Nicholson responded enthusiastically and urged Key to have the poem printed. First titled “The Defence of Fort McHenry,” the published broadside included instructions that it be sung to the 18th-century British melody “Anacreon in Heaven” — a tune Key had in mind when he penned his poem.  Copies of the song were distributed to every man at the fort and around Baltimore. The first documented public performance of the words and music together took place at the Holliday Street Theatre in Baltimore on October 19, 1814.  A music store subsequently published the words and music under the title “The Star-Spangled Banner.”
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Lizking on June 07, 2005, 09:10:35 PM
Any porn movie, starring me.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Chairboy on June 07, 2005, 09:15:16 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
a WWII air battle movie about the whole eastern front and battle over berlin, concentrating on all sides
Nice focus.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Roscoroo on June 07, 2005, 09:48:51 PM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
they did?
Whats it called?


i forgot what it was called .. ill see if i can find its name ... I remember seeing it a couple of times

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=movies+about+donner+party&btnG=Search (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=movies+about+donner+party&btnG=Search)

an american experience .... thats it .

i think there was another one too but it was really dry ..
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Rino on June 07, 2005, 10:13:27 PM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Any WW2 movie that actualy doesn't try to make out the yanks won it all by themselves! ;)

Oh Ok then how about a movie about Bomber Commmand. Maybe this

(http://shop.abc.net.au/multimediaitems/images/product_images/2/236338.jpg)

A great book and powerfull on audio. A film would be good.


     Ok, forget the squid.  How about a movie that shows there
are actually folks in England who understand that Hollywood
makes FICTIONAL ACCOUNTS.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: XNachoX on June 07, 2005, 10:18:17 PM
A zombie movie somewhat like the old dawn of the dead.  I love to watch how the human relationships with one another crumble and you begin to doubt the sincerity of the other people, etc.,etc.  It's like watching the calm before the storm, and when it's over you're almost disappointed.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Toad on June 07, 2005, 11:00:03 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Rino
Ok, forget the squid.  How about a movie that shows there
are actually folks in England who understand that Hollywood
makes FICTIONAL ACCOUNTS.


Oops... coffee splutter.

Obviously, we should have stayed out of Europe and just used everything to whack Japan in half the time it took.

Apparently everyone would be so much happier.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: sling322 on June 07, 2005, 11:05:41 PM
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Originally posted by StarOfAfrica2
I've always hoped they would make a movie about the attack on Washington and Baltimore during the War of 1812 that caused Francis Scott Key to write the Star Spangled Banner.  Most history books gloss over that war, and there's tons of interesting history there.  I mean, tell me this doesnt sound like a good movie.


I watched a feature on the History Channel a few weeks back that was all about the War of 1812.  I think it was actually called the Forgotten War because, as you say, most history books do gloss over it and it doesnt get as much pub as the other wars in our history.  It was very well done and showed a lot of different angles to what happened.  It even included info on how the President's wife risked her life by staying in the White House up to the last minute and made sure that a famous portrait of George Washington was removed right before they all evacuated it and the Brits burned it down.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Halo on June 07, 2005, 11:32:50 PM
The little U.S. Civil War episode where a Yankee ship rigged with a torpedo sticking out from the bow steamed over a log barrier and sunk a Confederate ironclad made in a cornfield and tucked away in a North Carolina river from which it made raids and immensely aggravated the much larger Union Navy.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sandman on June 07, 2005, 11:59:57 PM
The Snow Queen by Joan D. Vinge

I'd also not mind seeing Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Nash on June 08, 2005, 12:17:08 AM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
The movie I'd like to see made is a farm animal adult video starring Howard Dean and Hillary Clinton.


Yeah whatever you say Nuke.

Oh wait a sec... You're not Nuke. In fact you are Holden.

Gee.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Gunslinger on June 08, 2005, 12:18:47 AM
I wish they made a fictional movie about pearl harbor.  They could cast Ben Aflack or something.

I wish they'd make a parody movie making fun of actors and terror fear mongers alike using puppets.

I can't wait. ;)
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Vudak on June 08, 2005, 12:29:26 AM
I'd like to see a film made about Germanicus.  Start it off the night before Arminius' ambush and run it up until Germanicus is (likely) murdered on the Caesar's orders.

I think it'd be great:

*Action
*Betrayal
*Quest for vengeance
*Love side-story (a married one)
*Deceipt and Mistrust from Emperor

Anyone who wants to have a great read, pick up Nero's Killing Machine - The True Story of Rome's Remarkable Fourteenth Legion  by Stephen Dando-Collins.  The whole book is great, but the parts that pertain to this story are the best.  Read chapters 14-18 and the first paragraph of chapter 19.  I think you'll agree it would make a great movie.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sandman on June 08, 2005, 12:37:28 AM
Hmmm...

http://www.empiremovies.com/index.php?id=1543

:aok
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Seagoon on June 08, 2005, 12:49:50 AM
A few dream movies...

* A Movie focusing on the Scottish Covenanters during the "Killing Times," and in particularly the story of the "Two Margarets" (my daughter is named after them) The Story of the Wigtown Martyrs (http://www.prca.org/books/portraits/margaret.htm)  
* The Battle of Wake Island (without Ben Affleck)
* The Sharpe Series (not as a low budget Beeb TV quality production)
* More of the Patrick O'Brien novels

- SEAGOON
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sandman on June 08, 2005, 01:00:20 AM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
A few dream movies...

* More of the Patrick O'Brien novels

- SEAGOON


According to the Sun, "RUSSELL CROWE has signed up for a follow-up to Napoleonic Wars epic Master & Commander: The Far Side Of The World. The new film, called Post Captain, is also based on a novel by Patrick O’Brian."
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Seagoon on June 08, 2005, 01:04:53 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman
According to the Sun, "RUSSELL CROWE has signed up for a follow-up to Napoleonic Wars epic Master & Commander: The Far Side Of The World. The new film, called Post Captain, is also based on a novel by Patrick O’Brian."


Huzzah![/i]

Thanks Sandman...
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Hangtime on June 08, 2005, 01:33:52 AM
The Jimmy Doolittle Story.

Captain Cook; the true story of the Voyages of Discovery

Korean POW/MIA's and what really happened to them..

A true story of the fall of the Phillipines in WWII.. Corregidor, Bataan.

The battle at San Bernadino Straits, (the most incredible destroyer action in USN history) and the naval battle in Leyte Gulf . WHERE IS REPEAT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY-FOUR . . . THE WORLD WONDERS"

The complete history of the America's Cup, the longest winning streak in sports history.

The USS Liberty. Lest we Forget.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: JB88 on June 08, 2005, 01:37:12 AM
the good the bad and the waffle.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 08, 2005, 02:18:30 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman

I'd also not mind seeing Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.


Wow.  Now thats a movie series I'd pay to see.  But I doubt you'll ever see it with some of the content.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: FUNKED1 on June 08, 2005, 02:37:16 AM
Snow Crash
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 08, 2005, 02:38:56 AM
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Originally posted by sling322
I watched a feature on the History Channel a few weeks back that was all about the War of 1812.  I think it was actually called the Forgotten War because, as you say, most history books do gloss over it and it doesnt get as much pub as the other wars in our history.  It was very well done and showed a lot of different angles to what happened.  It even included info on how the President's wife risked her life by staying in the White House up to the last minute and made sure that a famous portrait of George Washington was removed right before they all evacuated it and the Brits burned it down.


I remember reading that story.  Thats the kind of thing I'm talking about.  Historical fiction movies can help a whole new generation learn little facts like that before they are all gone and no one remembers anymore.  

A few other ideas...........

A book I just finished that would make an incredible movie:  1776.  It's historical fiction.  The story exactly as it happened, but with the gaps filled in, and the characters fleshed out to be real people.  I've read alot of works about George Washington, and the more I study him the more impressed I am.  This is a man who people wanted to make a King!  The loyalty of his troops was unbelievable.  He must have had incredible charisma.

While looking up the info in my previous post for the battle of Baltimore, I found some interesting info on Fort McHenry that might make a good movie.  During the Civil war, federal troops held the fort to keep the people of Maryland from helping the Confederacy, and actually trained the guns of the fort on Baltimore.  Confederate sympathizers were imprisoned there, often without ever getting a trial (remind you of anything?).  Be a great historical fiction AND political commentary piece.

Also, I have been collecting info on guerrilla units that operated for the Confederacy in Missouri and Kansas during the Civil war.  This is where people like the James brothers and the Youngers learned their trade, before they became true outlaws.  Men like William Quantrill and Bloody Bill Anderson.  In some parts of Missouri, Anderson and James are still thought of as heroes, and always have been.  As the Civil War is a particular interest of mine, I'd like to see some movies made that didnt just focus on the big battles like Gettysburg or Shiloh or Cowpens.  

Or another, what about a movie that focuses on the war with Mexico OTHER than the Battle of the Alamo?  Can anyone name battles of the Mexican War?  Some of the big players in the Civil War got their start there, and made names for themselves.  Men that fought alongside one another that would be mortal enemies just a few years later.

What about the Spanish American war?  Again, so many long-ranging effects from that war, and hardly anyone can tell you when it happened, or who the major players were, or why it happened.  So much unplumbed material worthy of film.  

Amazing with all these ideas we can come up with sitting here brainstorming, Hollywood is giving us remakes of TV shows and movies that have been done to death.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: rpm on June 08, 2005, 03:04:17 AM
OK it's not a movie, but I've always thought a TV series about the Coast Guard would be cool. Plenty of material there. Search and rescue on the high seas, smuggling and drug busts in the Florida Keys, anti-terrorism with the DHS and operations in Iraq. I should give Bellisario a call.:cool:
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Skydancer on June 08, 2005, 05:51:52 AM
"Ok, forget the squid. How about a movie that shows there
are actually folks in England who understand that Hollywood
makes FICTIONAL ACCOUNTS."

Yeah we know they are fictional. Thing is many of them are headed with the tag line "Based on historical events" or some such crap.

Young people are more credulous. They watch em and start to think that they show history. Its an insidious propaganda that slowly makes people actualy believe the codswallop.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Thrawn on June 08, 2005, 06:16:26 AM
MORE WW2 TEH EVARYTHING!


Seriously, more character pieces like the one with Selleck portraying Eisenhower.


More mini-series like Band of Brothers, covering different units from different services in different countries.


Luckily I won't have to wait long for the latter.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374463/  :aok
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: AdmRose on June 08, 2005, 08:31:53 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Vudak
I think it'd be great:

*Action
*Betrayal
*Quest for vengeance
*Love side-story (a married one)
*Deceipt and Mistrust from Emperor



Congratulations. You just described Star Wars.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: AdmRose on June 08, 2005, 08:35:40 AM
WWI would make an excellent movie. Haven't seen a good WWI movie since The Lost Batallion.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Suave on June 08, 2005, 08:42:51 AM
Dweebs

A documentary about the flight sim community.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: RTR on June 08, 2005, 08:43:27 AM
"Mr Black goes to the CON."

Picture this......120 men all dressed in their best sniper outfit, complete with shruberry sprouting from every nook and cranny of their being.

Each eyeballing the others and thinking......."Wait a minute.....I thought I was Mr Black."

RTR
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Suave on June 08, 2005, 08:50:24 AM
Oh, and ANY movie about the Korean war would be nice. It was a miserable, miserable, large scale total war that for the most part has gotten only cursory recognition.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Pooh21 on June 08, 2005, 08:57:57 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Seagoon
A few dream movies...

* The Sharpe Series (not as a low budget Beeb TV quality production)
* More of the Patrick O'Brien novels

- SEAGOON


Nice!
But also the Grail Quest series by Bernard Cornwell, after O'Brians novels those are my favorite books. Longbows, Crecy, and all that fun stuff.

Red Storm Rising, exactly like the book.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Vudak on June 08, 2005, 09:22:39 AM
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Originally posted by AdmRose
Congratulations. You just described Star Wars.


Har har har...

I was thinking more along the lines of Gladiator but with more battles like the first scene...

And maybe let the actors have a bit more time with their scripts then Star Wars...  They might be able to watch themselves without blushing.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Seagoon on June 08, 2005, 10:26:24 AM
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Originally posted by AdmRose
WWI would make an excellent movie. Haven't seen a good WWI movie since The Lost Batallion.


Hi AdmRose,

At one time I too was hoping for more WW1 themed movies, being a huge fan of both versions of "All Quiet on the Western Front," "Sgt. York," and even "The Razors Edge" (which actually has more to do with the enui of the post-war generation) and the war poets (Blunden, Owen, Sassoon, Graves, Rosenberg, etc.).

But the problem with WW1 is that unless you focus on the last few months of 1918 and the German collapse, all you have is mud, and despair and sacrifice that achieves little or nothing. Any movie therefore ends up being either a desperate struggle for survival or inevitably falls into the anti-war war flick, and only the best of directors are going to be able to do this without making it 2 hours of patently obvious bludgeoning about the evils of our own time.

For an example of what I mean (actually done better than most modern directors would probably do) pick up Kubrick's "Paths of Glory" some time.

- SEAGOON
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Skydancer on June 08, 2005, 10:32:29 AM
Try the "Ghost Road" good movie and good book.
Or " A very long Engagement" ( engllish title for a French film)
Or "the Trench" also very good.

All very good.

For medieval fans theres a great re working of "Joan of Arc" too. Or ghow about "Kingdom of Heaven" just seen that and thought it was pretty good.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: nirvana on June 08, 2005, 10:35:07 AM
Star, you ever been to Ft. Meyers (Sp?) in Baltimore?  Really great historic place, supposedly looks the same as in did in 1812, main structure appeared to anyway.  They also have the normal tourist type stuff with movies and demonstrations etc.  You may enjoy it if you've never been.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: JB88 on June 08, 2005, 10:39:30 AM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Try the "Ghost Road" good movie and good book.
Or " A very long Engagement" ( engllish title for a French film)
Or "the Trench" also very good.

All very good.

For medieval fans theres a great re working of "Joan of Arc" too. Or ghow about "Kingdom of Heaven" just seen that and thought it was pretty good.


(http://www.musicweb-international.com/film/2000/april00/JoanofArc.JPG)

great film.  and damn if she isnt a sexy momma.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Krusher on June 08, 2005, 10:41:44 AM
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Originally posted by nirvana
Star, you ever been to Ft. Meyers (Sp?) in Baltimore?  Really great historic place, supposedly looks the same as in did in 1812, main structure appeared to anyway.  They also have the normal tourist type stuff with movies and demonstrations etc.  You may enjoy it if you've never been.




I am not familiar with Ft. Meyers, but I went to Francis Scott Key JR. high in Baltimore.  It was within walking distance of Ft. Mchenry.  Baltimore also has the U.S.S. Constellation the sister ship to the Constitution.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Krusher on June 08, 2005, 10:53:22 AM
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Originally posted by Seagoon

But the problem with WW1 is that unless you focus on the last few months of 1918 and the German collapse, all you have is mud, and despair and sacrifice that achieves little or nothing. Any movie therefore ends up being either a desperate struggle for survival or inevitably falls into the anti-war war flick, and only the best of directors are going to be able to do this without making it 2 hours of patently obvious bludgeoning about the evils of our own time.


- SEAGOON


I always thought the Christmas truce would be a nice topic for a WWI movie.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Seagoon on June 08, 2005, 11:07:33 AM
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Originally posted by Krusher
I always thought the Christmas truce would be a nice topic for a WWI movie.


Hey Krusher,

Funny you should mention that. The Christmas truce was recently made into a movie called "Joyeux Noel" which played at the Cannes festival and was actually well received.

It has also had mentions in other movies including the classic 1969 British film "Oh! What a Lovely War."

- SEAGOON
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 08, 2005, 11:24:23 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Yeah whatever you say Nuke.

Oh wait a sec... You're not Nuke. In fact you are Holden.

Gee.


What... you didn't think that was funny?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: cpxxx on June 08, 2005, 11:29:47 AM
I watched Das Boot again the other night. I'd like the Germans to make a WW2 movie. Maybe a Luftwaffe movie from their point of view in the Das Boot style. The defence of the Reich in the air would make a good movie.

The Brits should make a decent WW2 movie instead of whinging about  the Americans claiming all the glory. It's long overdue. Funnily enough it occured to me while watching Doctor Who the other night. If the BBC can use that much CGI in a TV series. Then surely it can be done. Following the fate of a fighther or bomber squadron or that of a pilot, would make a good story. You can have it all. action, adventure, survival, pathos, romance and the obligatory anti war message. They should use very young actors to emphasise just how young the people who fought the war were.

My choice, naturally would W/Cdr Brendan 'Paddy' Finucane. The Irish ace. He remains one of the top scorers in the RAF despite being killed aged 21 in 1942. It fulfils all of the above criteria including the fact that he was a celebrity at the time.   As long as they don't cast Tom Cruise with a lousy accent.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 08, 2005, 12:06:00 PM
I have always wanted to see a bio-pic of Yamamoto and a full blown extravaganza about  the Eastern front, expecially Kursk.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Krusher on June 08, 2005, 12:28:45 PM
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Originally posted by Seagoon
Hey Krusher,

Funny you should mention that. The Christmas truce was recently made into a movie called "Joyeux Noel" which played at the Cannes festival and was actually well received.

It has also had mentions in other movies including the classic 1969 British film "Oh! What a Lovely War."

- SEAGOON




cool, thanks for the info !
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 08, 2005, 12:46:52 PM
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Originally posted by Seagoon


But the problem with WW1 is that unless you focus on the last few months of 1918 and the German collapse, all you have is mud, and despair and sacrifice that achieves little or nothing. Any movie therefore ends up being either a desperate struggle for survival or inevitably falls into the anti-war war flick, and only the best of directors are going to be able to do this without making it 2 hours of patently obvious bludgeoning about the evils of our own time.

- SEAGOON


Actually I read a book not too long ago (but cant remember the title right now) that focused on the lives of the Brits at home during the war.  Not in London, or near anywhere near the coast, but out in the countryside.  It focused on how much the class barriers fell during the war, and how the people adjusted to what was essentially an entirely new way of life.  Such changes arent so apparent to those of us on the outside looking in, but to those people then, it was a huge upheaval in the way the world worked.  Fascinating characters.  I'll have to dig it up.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: AWMac on June 08, 2005, 01:02:09 PM
M*I*L*F


:D
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: SirLoin on June 08, 2005, 01:15:43 PM
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Originally posted by oboe
Rise and Fall of the Luftwaffe


That would be a MIGHTY fine movie!
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sikboy on June 08, 2005, 01:23:49 PM
While it would be mostly a Political Story, the "battle" off Mers El Kabir would be my very first choice to make into a movie.

The overarching story over what to do about the French Fleet, with de Gaulle and Churchill trying to come to agreement, the fear of the fleet falling into the hands of the Germans. The French Officers and Men forced to consider where their loyaty may lie between the Resistance, the Vichy, and their own lives. The final Battle where Owen Wilson and the USS Arizona arrive just in time to Sink the French Fleet, as well as a Nazi submarine that was secreting away a nuclear weapon to use on New York.

Really, that story has it all.

-Sik
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Krusher on June 08, 2005, 01:31:15 PM
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Originally posted by Sikboy
Really, that story has it all.

-Sik



What about the love triangle?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Simaril on June 08, 2005, 01:40:20 PM
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they already made a donner party movie.
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they did?
Whats it called?


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Several actually. Weren't they

"Eating Raoul", "Live and Let Die", and

"The Breakfast Club"?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sikboy on June 08, 2005, 01:41:19 PM
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Originally posted by Krusher
What about the love triangle?


Sorry, I forgot. Owen Wilson gets with de Gaulle and Churchill.

-Sik
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: mosgood on June 08, 2005, 03:04:17 PM
The STEN books

The Wheel of Time books   (if the bastard ever finishes them)

The Forever War


and the story of how I ended up banging my old room mate and her hot girlfriend.... that would have to be a blow by blow 3 hour epic in real time...   :D
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sandman on June 08, 2005, 03:15:55 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
The Wheel of Time books   (if the bastard ever finishes them)


Oh yeah... that would be right up there with the Dungeons and Dragons movie. Maybe they could get Thora Birch for this one too.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: mosgood on June 08, 2005, 03:40:18 PM
I take it you didn't like them?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sandman on June 08, 2005, 03:42:30 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
I take it you didn't like them?


I couldn't get past the first book. I like character development as much as the next guy, but it seemed that Jordan took forever to actually reveal the plot. I don't think I finished more than 75% of the book before I gave up.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: mosgood on June 08, 2005, 05:34:25 PM
It got A LOT better.  I agree the first book was slow
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Flit on June 08, 2005, 09:39:37 PM
Team Yankee
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Flit on June 08, 2005, 09:41:27 PM
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Originally posted by AdmRose
WWI would make an excellent movie. Haven't seen a good WWI movie since The Lost Batallion.

 You ever see "The Anzacs"?
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Meatwad on June 08, 2005, 10:31:13 PM
Red Dwarf, the movie Red Dwarf (http://www.reddwarf.com/)
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: sling322 on June 09, 2005, 02:11:51 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman


I'd also not mind seeing Donaldson's Chronicles of Thomas Covenant.



I am just getting ready to read those all over again.  I read them back in high school or so.  As soon as I finish with "The Ultimate Hitchhikers Guide" that is.  I also read somewhere that there are some new Covenant novels coming out I think.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Chairboy on June 09, 2005, 02:33:46 PM
"Buying Time" by Joe Haldeman feels like it's written to be a great movie.  A lot less angsty then the ''Forever" series of his.
Title: Movies you wish they'd make
Post by: Sandman on June 09, 2005, 04:59:10 PM
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Originally posted by sling322
I am just getting ready to read those all over again.  I read them back in high school or so.  As soon as I finish with "The Ultimate Hitchhikers Guide" that is.  I also read somewhere that there are some new Covenant novels coming out I think.


The new novel isn't coming out, it's out already. (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0399152326/qid=1118354274/sr=8-1/ref=pd_csp_1/102-8653449-3284126?v=glance&s=books&n=507846).