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I like Russian dressing, vodka, chicken Kiev (well Ukraine), pirozhki, buckwheat pancakes, and even borshch now and then.
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Originally posted by genozaur
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Wow.
What year did you graduate from commie martyr high, mudhead?
You seem to paint the nation of folks you live among with a mighty wide ugly brush.
Perhaps you've vacationed long enuff in the nation that disgusts you? Can we assist, would you accept donations from capitalists? I'll be glad to start a collection for the ante on your ticket.. bet we could get the duckets together pretty quick to make a return to the motherland happen for yah.
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I don't hate Russians, I ferociously hate commies. Be they Russian, Chinese, Korean or Cubanese,French, Americans, Brits, whateever, the only place they belong to is hell.
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Russia was one of the first countries who recorgnized the United States after the war for independence, and who even helped the States at that time sending fleet. But they hate us.
Actually, that government was overthrown and slaughtered. If I recall, we were evil for supporting them during that period.
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American's don't hate 'Russians'. What they hate is the Russian arrogance that allot of 'Russians' spew.
That not only happens on this forum but I can link to any number of forums where that same 'Russian attitude' comes out. When it does it gets the same treatment as it does here and its not just from Americans.
When some one comes out to 'defend Stalin' or 'Communism' in general they will get mocked and laughed at. When they come out and make claims about the 'superiority' of the soviet system (be it education or anything else) they will get mocked and laughed at. You can assume this is just hatred against everything 'Russian' if you want but that doesn't make it so and will get you mocked and laughed at as well.
When you make a claim like 'American's don't know that Cuba and China are communist' how do you think the responses will go? After all you imply 'Americans are stupid'.
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I hate that some Russians don't know how to use paragraphs.
Guess that makes me a bad guy, huh? :aok
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Originally posted by Skydancer
"American's don't hate 'Russians'. What they hate is the Russian arrogance that allot of 'Russians' spew. "
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Mirror?
Might want to try that mirror there yourself, sport.
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I hate the lack of a Russian paragraph break.
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A lot of us know people who suffered under Soviet oppression around the world. Some people here even felt that opression directly, living in the countries that were terrorized by Soviet rule.
Others had Soviet puppet soldiers trying to kill or maim them, or knew someone who suffered that fate. Or like me they had a close family member forced to travel thousands of miles and risk life and limb to stop communist invasion of a sovereign nation.
There are people like this all over the world. It's natural that there are still some hard feelings.
Personally, I forgive any Russian who renounces communism, regardless of his past. And obviously anyone too young to have been involved with communist atroticies should have no guilt or shame. But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.
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I don't hate Russians as a people. Au contraire; the ones I've met here are lots of fun and good folks.
What I dislike is a person of any nationality that will deny obvious truth and excuse obvious unnecessary brutality.
For example:
May be, the reason of this hate is few incidents with Korean, Finnish or American planes? My God, a lot of such incidents happen every year, but Canadians and British don't hate Americans for friendly fire
Had the Soviet supporters admitted the murder... yes murder by ICAO standards.... was wrong there'd be no problem whatsoever.
It's the unabashed attempts to deny such incidents or excuse them that is the cause of the problem. IMO.
Katyn is another perfect example. The government of Russian has admitted the NKVD killed the Poles on Stalin's orders. They have supplied documentation. Yet there are those that continue to try deny and excuse it.
THESE are the people that cause the problem.
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russian was flushed down the toilet by communism. if it had been a capitalist society they'd probably be number one right now. the best thing for the states was communism in russia. imagine if the superpowers spent those trillions to further mankind instead of trying to destroy it.
we would have the capability to exile corrupted politicians to mars.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Wow.
What year did you graduate from commie martyr high, mudhead?
You seem to paint the nation of folks you live among with a mighty wide ugly brush.
Perhaps you've vacationed long enuff in the nation that disgusts you? Can we assist, would you accept donations from capitalists? I'll be glad to start a collection for the ante on your ticket.. bet we could get the duckets together pretty quick to make a return to the motherland happen for yah.
The question was: WHY ?
So, hang on well.
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Originally posted by JB73
boy it is tough to read a wall of text with no breaks. it makes you lose your place on a computer moniter, and even in books.
It makes it even tougher when you misspell "monitor" 23 times in succession. Not to mention the other 52 grammar errors.
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Originally posted by Mini D
Actually, that government was overthrown and slaughtered. If I recall, we were evil for supporting them during that period.
And Stalin then slaughted the revolutionary government but it didn't help him much.
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Originally posted by genozaur
The question was: WHY ?
So, hang on well.
Nope. It wasn't.
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Originally posted by genozaur
May be, the reason of this hate is few incidents with Korean, Finnish or American planes? My God, a lot of such incidents happen every year, but Canadians and British don't hate Americans for friendly fire,
You don't get to play that card my friend. The Americans tried the pilot responsible for the deaths of the Canadians soldiers in Afghanistan and then put their names on a monument to commemorate their sacrifice.
Not nearly the same thing as blowing away civilians, and not saying so much as, "Oops".
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Genozaur, when I first read your contribution I thought you might trolling. I'm becoming more convinced when I read stuff like that.
You have to be kidding?
If not and if as you say you live in New York. What kind of closed world do you live in that makes you think anyone in America hates Russians. Many hate Communists of any nationality, particularly American Communists for whom they reserve a special hatred. Because that is the way many have been brought up.
If you identify yourself as a Communist as you seem to in this quote Why do they hate commies so much that even now want to send us in Gulag?
Then you will be hated. Not as a Russian but as a Commie which you seem to be.
Your attitude reminds me of those Americans, some on this BB who seem to think all foreigners out there hate Americans. I say the same thing to you as I would say to those Americans. Most people barely think about you enough to hate you.
I am inclined to think this is a troll, if not get out more and explore New York and America to what the people are really like. If you are in fact a Communist. I suggest you leave America and move to one of those Socialist paradises, Cuba or North Korea. You'll like it there. Not a whiff of a free press to upset you.
I still think this is a troll, a good one but a troll.
One other thing, troll or not, please use paragraphs. It's much better.
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I work with and have worked with many russians. All of them are hard working family guys. I cant tell much difference between russians and americans other than the accent and the weird sense of humor.
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Originally posted by Rino
I hate that some Russians don't know how to use paragraphs.
Guess that makes me a bad guy, huh? :aok
Rino, my computers are under diligent control of the guys whose names I do not know.
The bugs they implanted into my computers made inoperable all my printers and most of my text editors. And I do not have time to fix all that because I earn my living by hard manual labor. And do not think that I paranoidally blame the non-existent forces. I caught the guys a couple of times when leaving for work I accidentally forgot to log off my computer and on arrival home from work found out that some uninvited guests had entertained themselves by accessing my machine.
(I have the equivalent of B.S. degree in computer-aided information systems).
Maybe you are one of them. In this case keep on making me look rediculous.
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
A lot of us know people who suffered under Soviet oppression around the world. Some people here even felt that opression directly, living in the countries that were terrorized by Soviet rule.
Others had Soviet puppet soldiers trying to kill or maim them, or knew someone who suffered that fate. Or like me they had a close family member forced to travel thousands of miles and risk life and limb to stop communist invasion of a sovereign nation.
There are people like this all over the world. It's natural that there are still some hard feelings.
Personally, I forgive any Russian who renounces communism, regardless of his past. And obviously anyone too young to have been involved with communist atroticies should have no guilt or shame. But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.
FUNKY, I find your words very reassuring.
The tyrant is in the grave for 52 years already,
why to hang the label of "Stalinist" on people who weren't even born when Stalin died.
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Originally posted by Toad
I don't hate Russians as a people. Au contraire; the ones I've met here are lots of fun and good folks.
What I dislike is a person of any nationality that will deny obvious truth and excuse obvious unnecessary brutality.
For example:
Had the Soviet supporters admitted the murder... yes murder by ICAO standards.... was wrong there'd be no problem whatsoever.
It's the unabashed attempts to deny such incidents or excuse them that is the cause of the problem. IMO.
Katyn is another perfect example. The government of Russian has admitted the NKVD killed the Poles on Stalin's orders. They have supplied documentation. Yet there are those that continue to try deny and excuse it.
THESE are the people that cause the problem.
Toad, I served in the Soviet air defence unit for two years. And, as I already told you, I am familiar with the letter and spirit (do not confuse with spirits) of the elite PVO Strany.
Stop thinking about the Soviet as well as about the Russian military as if they were/are the NKVD executioners.
Do you know that marshal Zhukov personally arrested Beriya, the chief of Stalin's NKVD-
MGB ? There are too many facts supporting my humble opinion that the Soviet Army and Navy were not a part of NKVD-MGB-KGB.
I know that the letter of the Soviet Air Defence code was rather tough. But it did not allow the terrorists to carry out multiple hijackings. And probably the lax in the American air defence system enabled them to start new terror tactics in the blue sky of America. And my guess is that they were happy to find out that you do not shoot down the aircraft that violate the US airspace (I'm talking about that Cuban plane in Florida as an example). So much for that.
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Originally posted by cpxxx
Genozaur, when I first read your contribution I thought you might trolling. I'm becoming more convinced when I read stuff like that.
You have to be kidding?
If not and if as you say you live in New York. What kind of closed world do you live in that makes you think anyone in America hates Russians. Many hate Communists of any nationality, particularly American Communists for whom they reserve a special hatred. Because that is the way many have been brought up.
If you identify yourself as a Communist as you seem to in this quote Then you will be hated. Not as a Russian but as a Commie which you seem to be.
Your attitude reminds me of those Americans, some on this BB who seem to think all foreigners out there hate Americans. I say the same thing to you as I would say to those Americans. Most people barely think about you enough to hate you.
I am inclined to think this is a troll, if not get out more and explore New York and America to what the people are really like. If you are in fact a Communist. I suggest you leave America and move to one of those Socialist paradises, Cuba or North Korea. You'll like it there. Not a whiff of a free press to upset you.
I still think this is a troll, a good one but a troll.
One other thing, troll or not, please use paragraphs. It's much better.
I am sure Vlad forgot the double parenthesis:
"commies".
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are you a communist?
are you a stalin apologist?
Rino, my computers are under diligent control of the guys whose names I do not know. The bugs they implanted into my computers made inoperable all my printers and most of my text editors. And I do not have time to fix all that because I earn my living by hard manual labor. And do not think that I paranoidally blame the non-existent forces. I caught the guys a couple of times when leaving for work I accidentally forgot to log off my computer and on arrival home from work found out that some uninvited guests had entertained themselves by accessing my machine. (I have the equivalent of B.S. degree in computer-aided information systems). Maybe you are one of them. In this case keep on making me look rediculous.
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are you insane?
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Originally posted by genozaur
So much for that.
So much for nothing.
Try to understand: the problem is not what your nation did at places like Katyn. ALL nations have black spots on their honor at some point in time.
The problem is that there is no admission of guilt, no sorrow or repentance for the deed by the Russians that post here, again using Katyn as the example for brevity.
THAT is the problem. Funked spelled it out for you:
But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.
And, as one who watched PVO Strany try and I emphasize try to fly formation on a 4-engine Boeing, I'm not real impressed with their supposed "elite" status. I can honestly state that the only time I was ever nervous while flying 20 miles off your coastline was when one of your fighters tried to fly formation with us. THAT was a scary thing to watch.
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genozaur
:rolleyes:
Crazier than a loon
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Originally posted by Hangtime
are you a communist?
are you a stalin apologist?
are you insane? [/B]
NO, NO, and NO. But some guys (just like you) think YES, YES, and YES. And those idiots are paid from my own taxes.
:D
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Who can not love a Russian Made Mosin Nagant?
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Let me see if I can give this a try....
By the very birth and origins of our nation, Americans despise oppression. Funked hit on it in my opinion.
Growing up in the later years of the Cold War, we never despised the Russian peoples, but we did despise the Russian government and their, at times, appalling brutality. We certainly did not want communism in our back yard. Just watch some films made during the 50's, 60's and 70's. I think one of my favorites is "The Russians are Coming, The Russians are Coming".
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Originally posted by genozaur
NO, NO, and NO. But some guys (just like you) think YES, YES, and YES. And those idiots are paid from my own taxes.
:D
Then what's yer beef?
Really?
'just like me'? Kid, yer clueless; I came by my opinions honestly.
You, on the other hand, find it convienient to blame anybody, anything for yer imagined plagerized problems.
Just WTF do you really think you are accomplishing with the dreck yer pushing?
Do you imagine yerself to be the new Brighton Beach Malcom X?
Tell yah what. Yah wanna have a discussion with the folks creating the negative russian immigrant image problem? Stuff yer head back up yer bum and shout loud and long. See if there's an echo. There's an argument you got a slim chance of winning.
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Hey Miko2D... I thought you were banned?
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Originally posted by Toad
So much for nothing.
Try to understand: the problem is not what your nation did at places like Katyn. ALL nations have black spots on their honor at some point in time.
The problem is that there is no admission of guilt, no sorrow or repentance for the deed by the Russians that post here, again using Katyn as the example for brevity.
THAT is the problem. Funked spelled it out for you:
And, as one who watched PVO Strany try and I emphasize try to fly formation on a 4-engine Boeing, I'm not real impressed with their supposed "elite" status. I can honestly state that the only time I was ever nervous while flying 20 miles off your coastline was when one of your fighters tried to fly formation with us. THAT was a scary thing to watch.
Toad, the Soviet Air Force pilots were always the aerobics challenged. So those weren't the orders of the high command. Just one example: in mid-thirties at the air show before Stalin's eyes the Red Air Force pilot in Ilyusin fighter plane decided to fly in circle around the airbourne four-engine passenger airliner. This resulted in the deadly collision of the two planes. Other examples you probably know from the news. Maybe its time for you to let go of that stress you suffered. I feel bad for you because I also do not like such kind of experience. Hopefully you know some other ways (than these BBS) to relieve yourself of the burden of that old stress.
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And BTW, what is the reason for me to admit somebody else's guilt. I did not do any of the stuff you are trying to blame me for. And I was born after Stalin's death. Should I feel sorry for that too ? And, as I said much earlier, there is no Soviet Union anymore. This is the year 2005, the fifth year of the XXIst century.
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Flying formation on a 4-engine Boeing is not for the "aerobics challenged"?
Are you saying they were fat and out of shape?
Or are you saying they were "aerobatically challenged"?
Flying formation with a 4-engine Boeing has little if anything to do with aerobatics. These guys couldn't stay on your wing. They were wobbling all over the sky, up and down, in and out. In short, they were not proficient pilots. They did not have their aircraft under control. Cod help them if they ever really HAD to air-refuel. I think there would have been a lot of flamouts and bail outs.
what is the reason for me to admit somebody else's guilt
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Funked is trying to help you:
But none of them should forget what happened, and I will speak out against those who try to deny the facts.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Then what's yer beef?
Really?
'just like me'? Kid, yer clueless; I came by my opinions honestly.
You, on the other hand, find it convienient to blame anybody, anything for yer imagined plagerized problems.
Just WTF do you really think you are accomplishing with the dreck yer pushing?
Do you imagine yerself to be the new Brighton Beach Malcom X?
Tell yah what. Yah wanna have a discussion with the folks creating the negative russian immigrant image problem? Stuff yer head back up yer bum and shout loud and long. See if there's an echo. There's an argument you got a slim chance of winning.
I just told you what is happening to my computers. That's all. You do not want to believe me ? It's fine with me. I haven't seen my photos in full profile yet (just the half-profile with the exposed ear, for the work authorization). Have you seen yours ? Get ready. :D :p
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Originally posted by Toad
Flying formation on a 4-engine Boeing is not for the "aerobics challenged"?
Are you saying they were fat and out of shape?
Or are you saying they were "aerobatically challenged"?
Flying formation with a 4-engine Boeing has little if anything to do with aerobatics. These guys couldn't stay on your wing. They were wobbling all over the sky, up and down, in and out. In short, they were not proficient pilots. They did not have their aircraft under control. Cod help them if they ever really HAD to air-refuel. I think there would have been a lot of flamouts and bail outs.
Funked is trying to help you: [/B]
My mistake. Of course I meant 'aerobatically challenged'. Which does not exclude that some of them were 'aerobics challenged'. :D :rofl
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This joker is Miko? DIdnt he get banned for being a racist *******?
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Now I'm sure it's a troll.
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Yer kiddin, right?
"what did communism ever do to you"?
Vad, ok; are YOU a communist?
Speak up.. it's a free country.
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Please name anybody here who "defend Stalin" or "Communism".
The most recent examples can be found in this (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=151931&highlight=Stalin) thread.
You can find the names of the Stalin / Bolshevik defenders in that thread. I can dig up other threads where they do the same as well.
Why the educatinal system of the USSR can't be better than the miserably failing educational system of the USA ? And not knowing some facts doesn't necessarily make the person stupid.
I assume you are a product of the Soviet education system, do you consider yourself more intelligent then any Ami or Westerner who posts on this board?
Name one person who doesn't know that Cuba and China are communist.
Creating 'straw man' arguments isn't a sign of intelligence. It's typically the tactic of the 'stupid'. Making simplistic statements such as 'miserably failing educational system of the USA' is just such a straw man. Unless you can define specific issues or examples that are factual, and that are able to be discussed directly, it would appear you are just lashing out like a frightened dog.
Since this thread is about hating 'Russians' if you wish to discuss the 'US educational system' (technically, despite interference from the Federal Government, there isn't a 'central' US education System) start another thread and we can go through it.
You don't want to be accused in racism and hate propaganda, so most of you started from "I don't hate Russians...". OK, let make it more simple. Most of you hate Communism and Communists, right? WHAT DID COMMUNIST DO TO YOU, AMERICANS?
I don't know anyone that hates 'Russians'. That's not being politically correct, those are the facts. I don't why your mind can't handle that.
Americans and most of the West can look at the record of Soviet communism and find reason to hate and reject it.
In fact even your own people 'rejected it' after just 71 years. As funked said:
A lot of us know people who suffered under Soviet oppression around the world. Some people here even felt that opression directly, living in the countries that were terrorized by Soviet rule.
Others had Soviet puppet soldiers trying to kill or maim them, or knew someone who suffered that fate. Or like me they had a close family member forced to travel thousands of miles and risk life and limb to stop communist invasion of a sovereign nation.
There are people like this all over the world. It's natural that there are still some hard feelings.
There are large segments of the 'Americans' who came to this country to escape the Soviet communist system.
The Soviet Communist Regime didn't have to do anything directly to me for me to 'hate it'. Just like a murderer or rapist etc doesn't have to murder or rape me in order to receive my 'hatred'.
People don't react to folks like Boroda, genozaur and yourself because you once lived under communism, they react the way they do because of the words you type out on this forum.
Sieg oder Bolschewismus!!!
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Yer kiddin, right?
"what did communism ever do to you"?
Vad, ok; are YOU a communist?
Speak up.. it's a free country.
No, I am not a communist. My shares in some of Russian companies a little bit contradict with ideas of Russian Communist Party, so I prefer to be apart.
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Ok, so what's with the indignant wailing?
Just as a FYI.. my generation fought communisim.. hot wars. Not just cold. With better than 104,000 american servicemen dead between Korea and Vietnam, the riots and civil unrest here in this country during vietnam directed, funded and led by the american communist party....
Vad, I have been spit upon right here in my own country by home grown commies, shot at by the export models and attended the funerals of friends killed by the russain speaking kind.
Read 'Black Book of Communisim'. 60 million dead worldwide, thanks to the 'benign' totalitarian system of government you seek to whitewash.
Don't pretend that Americans have no reason to hate communists or communisim... not Here. not Now. not Ever.
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First off, I don't hate Russian people. I consider the average Russian citizen to be just as much a victim of the USSR/CCCP or Stalin, or Lenin, or Kruschev or the rest of the Kremlin/KGB cohorts as any of the rest of their victims, like the Poles, the East Germans, the Cheks, or any number of others.
However, I have to wonder how you can ask the vast majority of the free world "what did Russia or the Communists ever do to you" with a straight freakin face.
Really.
For starters, if Dad were alive, you could ask him how he felt about Stalin backing China and North Korea, so he could spend a wonderful time in South Korea in the early fifties being shot at by those wonderful marvels of Soviet technology like the Mig 15, and any number of other pieces of Soviet military hardware. Not to mention the Russian military personnel operating some of that equipment and directing the operation of the rest of it.
I've got a few dozen friends you could ask how much they enjoyed their time in South East Asia, under pretty much the same conditions.
Hell, you could ask the general population of the South Eastern US how much they enjoyed the Cuban Missle Crisis, you know, that wonderful little episode where RUSSIA sent Castro all sorts of neat little toys to point at the region, and all sorts of help to operate it.
Shoot, you could ask the families of the pilots who died flying cargo planes into Berlin when RUSSIA decided to blockade the city and starve it into submission.
Are you so ignorant and uneducated that I need to continue this laundry list of what RUSSIA did that affected average US citizens?
Or are you going to deny that any of this happened? Or better yet, deny that RUSSIA was involved? Hell, go us all one bettter and blame the US for all of the above.
Naw, RUSSIA never did a damned thing to the US or its citizens. Nothing REALLY happened between 1946 and 1989. It was all a dream. Thousands of Americans didn't die opposing Soviet backed communist aggression. Never happened. No reason at all for any lingering bitterness or animosity.
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Nevermind that the premise of communism is complete ****in garbage. :)
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Ok, so what's with the indignant wailing?
Just as a FYI.. my generation fought communisim.. hot wars. Not just cold. With better than 104,000 american servicemen dead between Korea and Vietnam, the riots and civil unrest here in this country during vietnam directed, funded and led by the american communist party....
I just want to remind you that we have nothing with your war in Vietnam. It is your own war, we just gave some advices.
And about Vietnam and Korea.. hey, it wasn't Pearl Harbor or Europe, you fought for american intersets not for surviving of american nation. You have to pay for what you want to get. Somewhere you have got a lot ( Iraq, the second world resources of oil), somewhere you got nothing. Actually, I have no idea what you were going to find in Vietnam, you could find nothing there but "freight 200".
But in what connection communism there?
Vad, I have been spit upon right here in my own country by home grown commies, shot at by the export models and attended the funerals of friends killed by the russain speaking kind.
Me too. By english speaking ones.
It was in 1984. Alexander Madora, KIA. He was 18, complete newbe, and in any case couldn't be threat for US trained professionals in Afgan.
And what does it mean? I have to take revenge now?
Read 'Black Book of Communisim'. 60 million dead worldwide, thanks to the 'benign' totalitarian system of government you seek to whitewash.
60 million dead americans? You are kidding. Oh, they were not americans, they were others. But why do YOU hate us?
Don't pretend that Americans have no reason to hate communists or communisim... not Here. not Now. not Ever.
Exactly what I wanted to say - you will hate communism just because you have to do that. Without reasonable explanation.
I want to know just one simple thing - why "not now"? why "not ever"? Only that, nothing more.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
For starters, if Dad were alive, you could ask him how he felt about Stalin backing China and North Korea, so he could spend a wonderful time in South Korea in the early fifties being shot at by those wonderful marvels of Soviet technology like the Mig 15, and any number of other pieces of Soviet military hardware. Not to mention the Russian military personnel operating some of that equipment and directing the operation of the rest of it.
What did your father do in South Korea? Vacation? All inclusive hotels, girls in bikini, martini and... what a f..ck, Russian Mig-15!!!
Who is idiot - you or me?
I've got a few dozen friends you could ask how much they enjoyed their time in South East Asia, under pretty much the same conditions.
What did your friends do in South East Asia? Vacation? All inclusive hotels, girls in bikini, martini and... what a f..ck, Russian Mig-21!!!
Who is idiot - you or me?
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Ok, later. I have to take some rest, tomorrow is a busy day.
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When you work, you are sovereign of what you reap.
When someone takes that from you without your consent, that's stealing.
Usurp all you want from people who don't know better, but don't be surprised in the lack of interest from those who do know better.
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Originally posted by Vad
You can't distinguish between two posts from two different authors. And you want that I discuss with you quality of American education system? Gimme break!
I quoted both you and genozaur. If you can't figue out who typed what then now you know how the rest of us see it. Different names, same ignorant shyte.
Your arse, your face what's the difference...? If you can't figure it out don't blame me.
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Originally posted by Vad
But why do YOU hate us?
Answer was spelled for you already many posts back but if you refuse to acknowledge and understand it then there's not much to do but wish you a nice day and say tadaa :)
btw I'm leaving to Russia in couple days and going to spend a nice two weeks in there with my Russian friends.
Thank God they're intelligent people unlike some other Russians who's post I've had a displeasure to read.
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Originally posted by Vad
I just want to remind you that we have nothing with your war in Vietnam. It is your own war, we just gave some advices.]
Horsepucky. Out right lie. Ask Boroda what his uncle did in the War.
And about Vietnam and Korea.. hey, it wasn't Pearl Harbor or Europe, you fought for american intersets not for surviving of american nation. You have to pay for what you want to get. Somewhere you have got a lot ( Iraq, the second world resources of oil), somewhere you got nothing. Actually, I have no idea what you were going to find in Vietnam, you could find nothing there but "freight 200".
Apologist drivel. We were soldiers. We served. 5 million of us in Vietnam alone. Another 16 MILLION American Cold warriors served, standing guard, serving their nation, many of them did not come home.
But those of us that did.. we remember why we served. What we guarded against. We talked, watched the news, raised our kids. The word tends to get around about who yer enemies are out there in the big bad world..
60 million dead americans? You are kidding. Oh, they were not americans, they were others. But why do YOU hate us?
You just don't get it, do yah? Who do you think lives here? Americans? you betcha. From Ukraine, latvia, estonia. Czech's, slavs, Swede's, Finn's, poles... the list is very long... and quite a few of them just happen to be here because they escaped or left living in communist paradises... and came to America. And talked. and watched the news, raised kids... many, many, MANY millions of 'em.
Exactly what I wanted to say - you will hate communism just because you have to do that. Without reasonable explanation.
Oh, read the book. Please do. 'Black Book of Communisim'. Would you like a link?
I want to know just one simple thing - why "not now"? why "not ever"? Only that, nothing more.
There were surviors. They talked. For the Familys of those that didn't. So my kid's won't have to send their sons and daughters to fight communist tyranny and oppression.
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Take the bigotry somewhere else folks, it is not welcome here.