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Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: SirLoin on June 11, 2005, 10:34:09 PM
Does this mean a fully loaded p47 drops its ord..it will have more drag than a no ord p47?
Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: Kweassa on June 12, 2005, 12:37:23 AM
Yup.

 But IIRC, the new agenda on ord/dragpoints are only at work with the new 3D models like the P-38s and the Fw190s. For instance, when you fire all the HVARs on the P-38L, you'll notice the "Christmastree" racks are still left intact.
Title: Re: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: 1K3 on June 12, 2005, 12:43:47 AM
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Originally posted by SirLoin
Does this mean a fully loaded p47 drops its ord..it will have more drag than a no ord p47?


unless you have hardpoints. they're huge penalty for speed.

one example is the P-38L with x-mas tree rockets :)
Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: Krusty on June 12, 2005, 12:49:03 AM
Consider, however, that the underwing bomb racks probably were never taken off, and so they wouldn't increase drag, just rocket rails maybe, and I don't think the centerline had a rack, just a wire frame (minimal drag there).

I don't think p47s have to worry as much as the 190 did.
Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: Schutt on June 12, 2005, 05:40:19 AM
At the moment the D25 and D40 are modelled slower thank the D11 because of the wing hardpoints.

If they change the modelling that would mean they get faster when no ord applied in hangar, not slower.
Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: Krusty on June 12, 2005, 01:42:48 PM
Except, even when the planes didn't have ord they usually KEPT the hardpoints, in real life if I recall.

Thus the modelling would be accurate.
Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: Kweassa on June 12, 2005, 08:17:27 PM
I think Krusty's right on this one. Look at the P-38s - they keep their hardpoints on despite lack of ordnance.

 I'm guessing that unless a rail/hardpoint/rack is considered a separate, external piece of equipment that was regularly removed - ie. ETC racks - the  hardpoints would not be removed.
Title: Extra Drag With Load Points?
Post by: Rino on June 12, 2005, 09:19:20 PM
I think you'd only notice the drag at top speed though.  I was
talking to Dan Damio who flies a P-47D that recently added
hardpoints to the wing. their heads on according to Dan;) >.

     I asked him if he noticed the extra drag, and he said not at
all.  Of course this is A) annecdotal and B) an aircraft that is using
a lower grade of fuel than it would have in WW2.