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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: gofaster on June 13, 2005, 03:41:30 PM
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The B-24 really needs to have a perk assigned to it. Firepower, bomb load, speed, durability - nothing can match it. Its made base defense in 190s a joke.
Oh, and bring the Malcolm hood to the P-51B! (Or otherwise introduce a P-51C model).
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I can only do so much, but here ya go.
(http://www.fmalcolmhood.com/)
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what in the world IS the "malcolm hood" anyway?
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bulged canopy like on spitfire.
(http://www.cebudanderson.com/images/p51boldcrow.jpg)
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B-24s seem to be exceptionally durable, yet they are no more durable than the Lancaster.
Here's what I did. I went offline and practiced killing the B-24 drone, attacking from various angles. I found that a short burst is enough to bring one down if you put the rounds where they count most.
Aim for the wing between either inboard engine and the fuselage. This is almost certain to start a fuel fire. Once it's burning you need only wait for the explosion.
Another area is the cockpit. 50% of the time, a good hit on the cockpit blows up the Liberator.
When possible I like to attack from directly above.
My regards,
Widewing
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I find the b24 to be the easiest do bring down of all the bombers. IMO it sets on fire more often than the rest.
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Guys... you do not need to obliterate the B-24...
hope you dodge the bullets, get close and open fire between inboard enging and the fuselage. then all you have to do is wait till the fire consumes the wing.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Oh, and bring the Malcolm hood to the P-51B! (Or otherwise introduce a P-51C model).
Patience, grasshoppa. :)
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A P-51C with Malcolm Hood and the -7 engine (worse up high than the -5 engine in the current AH P-51B but more suitable for the MA) would be quite nice indeed.
J_A_B
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Thought B/C was same except for location and prop manufacture.
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Originally posted by gofaster
Oh, and bring the Malcolm hood to the P-51B! (Or otherwise introduce a P-51C model).
All things come to those who wait :)
As for the B24, they do seem to have a engine fire vulnerability as pointed out above . Follow any advice of Widewing; he has much experience, and anything he says should be taken like it came from the burning bush. :aok
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so furball, where's the spitfire :D
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Midway through the production run of the P-51B/C series, the engine was changed from the V-1650-5 to the V-1650-7. This engine wasn't quite as good up high, but gave better power at low to mid levels which is why it would be more suited to AH.
I would ask for a P-51C as opposed to a later-model P-51B because it would be needlessly confusing to have two different P-51B's in AH. However, such would not be without precedent, as we have several Fw-190A's and several Me-109G's. The current model of P-51B we have is the P-51B-5-NA; a -15 would be considerably more capable in the low-alt environment of the MA.
J_A_B
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b-24s aren't supposed to be durable?
in EAW and WB I loved killing them, couple of shots it is on fire and dead
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B 24's were quite durable ... and the handled very well for a bomber .
(ive got a B-24 pilot up the street from my work and i'm always hitting him up for stories )
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Unlike the Lancaster, the B-24 has .50s that pack a much more lethal punch.
"Get in close..." Yeah, good luck with that against a B-24 in a high-speed chase. And then there are the long-reach .50s to deal with once you get in guns range.
"Wait for the wing to burn off..." A burning bomber can drop a full load right on target. Now, if a burning bomber had a slower airspeed and screwed up a run, then that'd be something, but as it is now...
Perk the B-24!
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b-24s die like easy
shoot til his wing falls off
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They may light up easy..but you have to be careful because they will tear you a new one. So far this campaign Ive got 44 kills and like 40 deaths in them. Doesnt seem very good, but when you are talking tail guns vs a killing machine a fighter is..it aint too shabby :)
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lol B24 perk haha.
For what? Its ziplock bag quality fuel tanks?
One hit to the top of the wing, hit the tanks and the thing is a flaming wreck.
Perk it lol.
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Bring back the O club.
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isnt there a checklist for an engine on fire? that luftwaffe guy seems eager to bail lol..oh and hes gonna get a nasty smak from that tail, is his foot on the stick? whats the signifigance of the gear coming down?
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Oddly enough, I seem to be doing a LOT better against the B-24 now than the B-17. If I can kill them, anyone can.
I agree, they are fast, they are tough, and I've always felt that bomber guns were a little too accurate and deadly for "balance'' of gameplay vs. reality.
However, I also agree that if you hit them from above and go for the wing root they'll burn like a Zeke.
The key is being patient enough to make a good attack where you hold the advantages, and not make the attack if you don't.
Just like anything else, maybe more so, if you attack without sufficient advantage, expect to fail.
I'd kill a LOT more of them if I flew a bird with cannons and was able to remain patient. As it is, with one cannon and 4 50's, and being a big target, I am far too impatient.
I don't think the B-24 qualifies as a perk plane, even though I don't REALLY like attacking bombers, and I often feel forced to defend against them and attack at a great risk, if I want to keep the FH up.
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whats the signifigance of the gear coming down?
he plans on having his plane land on its own. Its a new feature that will come soon for Aces High. Just like we have auto take off, we'll soon have Auto Landing.
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Bring the RAF P51 ( NA-91) which is a Mustang 1, 1A (20mm hispanos) which both entered service in May 1941 for the RAF, and II. The p51-c with bulged hood is a Mustang III. D model is mustang IV
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Perk all the bombers.
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Originally posted by MwDogg
Bring the RAF P51 ( NA-91) which is a Mustang 1, 1A (20mm hispanos) which both entered service in May 1941 for the RAF, and II. The p51-c with bulged hood is a Mustang III. D model is mustang IV
Very few RAF 20mm armed 51s. Most had 2 50s under the nose firing through the prop and 6 303s in the wings.
B/C is the Mustang III
D/K is the Mustang IV RAF got large number of Dallas built K models
Definately wouldn't mind a Malcom hooded Mustang though.
Dan/CorkyJr
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/169_1118796032_polishmustangiiirefined.jpg)
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Malcom Hood would be so sweet. Hopefully it will be added with the newer versions comming out.
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There was 150 of the 1A's made with 20mm's.
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Originally posted by MwDogg
There was 150 of the 1A's made with 20mm's.
Of which 93 went to the RAF to go with the 620 Mustang Is that were armed with 2 50 cals and 6 303s.
Definately not the primary RAF Allison Mustang :)
57 of that 150 went to the USAAF
Dan/CorkyJr
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Originally posted by Morpheus
lol B24 perk haha.
For what? Its ziplock bag quality fuel tanks?
One hit to the top of the wing, hit the tanks and the thing is a flaming wreck.
Perk it lol.
What he said. Its a flying Zippo.
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Originally posted by Guppy35
Of which 93 went to the RAF to go with the 620 Mustang Is that were armed with 2 50 cals and 6 303s.
Definately not the primary RAF Allison Mustang :)
57 of that 150 went to the USAAF
Dan/CorkyJr
Correction 2 50cals and 4 30cals (2 each wing).
I'd take the 50/30 combo over the 20mm plane. It'd be a challenge, but in a plane that could actually get you to the point where you can get kills with it.
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Originally posted by Krusty
Correction 2 50cals and 4 30cals (2 each wing).
I'd take the 50/30 combo over the 20mm plane. It'd be a challenge, but in a plane that could actually get you to the point where you can get kills with it.
You are correct sir :) Was going from memory of the 6 gun wing with the funny stagger.
So 4 50s total and 4 30s total.
Dan/CorkyJr