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Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Staga on December 01, 2001, 07:52:00 AM
I just played couple hours and at some point I was getting a feeling "something is missing"...  Channels 1 and 2   :D
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Sunchaser on December 01, 2001, 10:51:00 AM
It is also missing the DSL fix expected in the final release and ubisoft has no dedicated servers up yet but they say they are working on both problems.

So far IL2 is what I expected, a great boxed sim with online problems.

An encouraging thing is the stability experienced online by those who can get there.

Stage, how many were in the lobby with you and how did it run?
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: capt. apathy on December 01, 2001, 11:03:00 AM
what is the dsl problem? i've had no problems on line with my dsl
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Kratzer on December 01, 2001, 01:24:00 PM
I believe the 'DSL' problem, if it is the one we saw in the demo, was that the second internal IP used by the network card in an external DSL modem setup would cause such players to be unable to connect to the true IP.
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: capt. apathy on December 01, 2001, 02:09:00 PM
ah, i have an internal dsl.  maybe thats why i've had on problems
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: funkedup on December 01, 2001, 02:40:00 PM
Staga maybe we can ask HTC to make a chat applet that allows use Ch1 and Ch2 independently of AH.   :D
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Swoop on December 01, 2001, 09:07:00 PM
What a great idea Funked!  Then I could laugh at the hilarity of Gunman26 while at work.

HTC, do it!

 :D

 (http://www.swoop.com/images/logo_small.jpg)
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Fishu on December 02, 2001, 03:49:00 AM
demo worked fine for me with MP.
Only gripe was those skins changing sometimes when some other player changes his planes skin...
and I have DSL with computer having static local network IP which is translated to internet IP at ISP. (NAT)

but what IL2 lacks, is some lil' tweaking into those AIs..
they like to crash in the ground sometimes when I go for landing and sometimes they collide at me in clear situation.
Not to talk about taxiing past 1st plane if you're 2nd plane out of 4..  then 3 and 4 taxiis right into 1.

oh yah.. theres like 90 missions in german fighter campaign, never got to fly FW190A4 :I
Seems like no K4 either, its already late april '45. (flying G6/AS, but thats one fun toy with wep.. sure speeds up!)
Also noticed that 30mm is sometimes quite porked, I've met 2 fighters that has took 5 hits of 30mm before something happens and few more with 3-4 hits. (IL2 goes easier  ;))

oh.. those AIs are also masters of kill stealing  :D

[ 12-02-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Staga on December 02, 2001, 06:10:00 AM
What a wonderful idea Funked!  :D
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: capt. apathy on December 02, 2001, 11:00:00 AM
new patch for il2 comming monday.  we get another plane.
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: DRILL on December 02, 2001, 05:26:00 PM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy:
new patch for il2 comming monday.  we get another plane.

huh i would like to just play on line with it so far i have not beable too  :)
 Fix that first i say  :D
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: AKSWulfe on December 03, 2001, 10:49:00 AM
Uh oh! You know what else they are missing???

The LuftWhiners!

Nope, too late, didn't take very long:
 http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zzwtk (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zzwtk)

Except the entire 109 series is superior in climb, acceleration and manueverability to the entire Russian planeset- exception being the La5FN and the Yak9U.

Someone should clue those dumbshits in, the German planes are by far better than the Russian planes.
-SW
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: AKSWulfe on December 03, 2001, 10:58:00 AM
and this is a real (un)intelligent comment here: "
In view of the fact that it took 3-4 30mm hits to bring a large bomber like a B17 but it takes more than that to take down a much smaller russian aircraft would suggest to me that the damage model needs improvement in IL2.

Perhaps someone could modify this feature in the game ie get into the damage model folder of IL2 and change it so that it is more accurate. Can this be done like in CFS2?"

I think those people that play Il-2 are some of the most amazingly uneducated people ever. They can't discern fact from fiction and make some pretty bogus claims.

The fact that it takes exactly ONE 30mm shell to take the tail or wings off any Russian fighter must of escaped his grasp. The moron was probably shooting all his guns at the same time and only the 15mm were hitting.
-SW
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: SirLoin on December 04, 2001, 11:17:00 AM
I have only been able to get online once at ubisoft.com...I always get an  error message.But when I was in,it was great with no noticable lag.
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Gadfly on December 04, 2001, 01:00:00 PM
I did the ubisoft thing, got into one dogfight area, it was 6/6.  Worked fine, no lag at all, but boy did they suck.  I shot one down, smoked another and was lined up for a 3rd when the host pulled the plug.  And I suck bad, so they must have been newbies, but the code seemed to work fine.
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: Buzzbait on December 04, 2001, 04:57:00 PM
S!

Some of the Soviet aircraft are overrated.

The Lavochkins and Migs all have better performance than even my Russian data would indicate.  It seems Oleg has used the test data for the prototypes, instead of tests for a factory produced model.  Because of poor Soviet manufacturing standards, the difference was often in the area of 15-20mph in speed and 15% in climbrate.  In IL-2 the Lagg-3 is particularly overrated.  The La-5FN is also too fast and climbs too well.  The Mig-3 is far more maneuverable than historical data would suggest.

The Yaks don`t seem to be out of balance.  I think this is because for some reason Oleg has a personal dislike for Yakolev, the designer of these planes.  If you have been following discussions on the various boards for the past couple years, you would remember him dissing Yakolev at every opportunity, while simultaneously praising Lavochkin.  These two had a personal vendetta during the war and Oleg seems to have taken the side of Lavochkin...   ;)

The German aircraft seem to be well done with perhaps the exception of the 190`s which seem to lose control input at high speeds too easily.
Title: What Il-2 is missing.
Post by: csThor on December 05, 2001, 01:43:00 AM
Hehe Gadfly... what do you expect if a Fw190 A4 can outturn a Yak9U and send her down  ;)

And that was not because FM was wrong  ;)