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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Waffle on June 16, 2005, 10:39:23 AM
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Deadline has been passed - I'll go first and be the subject of ridicule:)
commercial (http://www.dangreve.com/HTC/commercial1.zip) 63 MB in all it's glory...lol sorry
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Here is a little preview of mine.
http://ahvirtualcinema.com/AHCom_1k.avi
You need divx to view.
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i never got around to learning to edit films in time, and kind of gave up....
i had a great story board though LOL
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looks good stream - where's the other 15 seconds? :)
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not bad waffle. very well done cinematography.
if there were multiple spots, maybe 3-4 different commercials that ran, 1 like waffle's, one done the same with an LW vs b17, one similar with GV's...
air them seperatly, and random.
just a thought
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Flame bait
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Originally posted by Killjoy2
Flame Bait
1. I wouldn't start a career in business in 8 years when you are finally old enough to work.
2. If you don't like the game the door is ------->
3. I fought a zeke last night in my f6f5 and it was 1 on 1 in the MA
4. These guys put a lot of hard work into these commercials, and they will hopefully get a whole bunch more of the prepubescent clueless dolts like yourself to pay 15 dollars a month to try this arcade game, and give the rest of us endless targets to shoot at.
I don't see your true-to-life commercial posted here, maybe you should save your snide and disrespectful comments for a time when you contributed something to a cause before you bad-mouthed it. :aok
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ahh, killjoy living up to his name yet again lol. :aok
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Originally posted by Waffle BAS
Deadline has been passed - I'll go first and be the subject of ridicule:)
commercial (http://www.dangreve.com/HTC/commercial1.zip) 63 MB in all it's glory...lol sorry
zip schmip!
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Mendez has a good one! But I'll wait for him to post! :)
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I dunno Waffle seeing as the commercial is going to be aired in the USA, was it a wise move to only show a Blue plane being shot down ?
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piss some folks...maybe they'll pay money to come hunt you down in game....lol
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I thought both were pretty good.
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Very nice both Stream and Waffle! Very exciting stuff, and I loved the external shots while firing waffle. Looked good. I loved the tunes you picked Stream.
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To both Waffle and Stream,
is the music for your advertisements in the public domain?
-Paul
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Originally posted by Paul
To both Waffle and Stream,
is the music for your advertisements in the public domain?
-Paul
Written, arranged and played by moi :) of course not for the commercial specifically, but one of those - "nah, I dont like this right now" recordings ...a "put it on the back burner" type song...lol
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Great job fellas.
BTW: I like seeing low level buffs Killjoy2.
They make for some good eatin for a chog!
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Gentlemen,
A nice job on both films and to everyone else you participated in this contest. Hopefully we will get an influx of new talent over the next few months.
I will add that the tone Killjoy used was quite disrespectful seeing as these guys have put countless hours into these projects. But I have come to expect nothing less from some of this community. With that said though, he does have some very valid points, does he not?
Waffle, very nice teaser flick. Looked crystal clear. I was curious as to why the first 11 seconds of your movie was just a countdown, versus actual AH content?
Stream, really like the pursuit formation of 38s plus a good balance of what AH offers on the gound and in the sea and air.
Once again thank you to all those who participated. This game will only get better because of your efforts, and may the best pilot win.
Spaatz
~~~FATE~~~
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11 seconds is a leader/counter.... for the 30 seconds spot.
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You guys need to go through and find out what are the "speilberg-izations" done in the clip. You'll probably have to stop and go frame by frame....lol :)
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Thanks for the comments guys.
Just so you know, mine wasn't the finished version. This was just a raw version that I wanted to finish, but when it came down to deadline time, I just couldn't do it. I had a hard time with the film viewer on most of the shots I wanted, whether it was frame rate hits, or textures not keeping up with the frame. One shot I was using F6F-5's in eclilon right doing a fall off... but it just didn't come out good enough for me. I got frustrated with the film viewer and the absence of hidden details, form of 3 players in B-17's and to get them all in the frame... you couldn't see the bombs falling from the other 2 players.
So what I am saying is, this is not completed. It is just in a rough draft that I got out for HTC, one day I would like to finish it. If they want to use it... they can, if not, so be it. I was aiming more toward the multiplayer aspect, and the vehicles in the game when I started this.
... to answer your question Paul, mine is copywright free... I bought the rights to it.
(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/269_1118965229_vfs1000.jpg)
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nice stuff
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Flame bait
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I had a hard time with the film viewer on most of the shots I wanted,
BINGO!
My biggest and probably one of my only real gripes with the film viewer is how we are tied so tightly to the plane's. I would give anything for a god mode. Or the ability to manipulate the views with the mouse curser. RATHER than having to use the key pad or the sliders.
What I mean when I say being tied to the planes... We need a god mode.. Or a way of moving about within a certain range of the plane without having to move from a given axis. That axis being determined only by which plane you are viewing from. Just like we have in the DA, or while off line. Not only would it be easier to get the films and shots you wanted, but it would also make for a much better film in the end.
I know HT is busy with AH's ToD. So I wont press anymore on the subject. Just wishful banter on my part.
Edit: I have a commercial started. I fell short, like stream of the deadline tho. I just didnt have the time to finish it.
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im thinking htc wanted them to be more historical in nature with the coming of tod, which just might say something about its release date.
i can safely say im one of those who lost interest in the ffa nature of ah, but im hoping tod will pull me back.
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Killjoy seems to have a point.
But:
Ppl may want to "test" a historical matchup, but the short-time-fun is beeing had by "mindless furballing" (tm). And thats what many ppl do, esp when beginning to play AH.
And if you would make the planesets country-specific, you would most probably run into problems on typical US timezones. There would be an overwhelming number of allies, with only a few axis to counter them. At least I think it would turn out this way.
Many ads are just lies. If you take some ads for say 4WD-Cars, what do you think would happen if you buy one of those and try in RL what you see in the ad. It'll be wrecked.
AFAIK an ad does not have to represent the actual experience in all ways. And few do.
So, if ppl want it sell it to them. But wrap it up in a way they want to see themselves in.
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The game is what you make it. It could be historically accurate if people wanted to fly that way. And I don’t see how these commercials are misrepresentations at all! I almost always fly an allied plane, and guess what, more than half of the time I will find myself facing an AXIS plane. How is the Zeke v the f6 in any way a misrepresentation?! What should they show? People bickering on ch200??
When they advertise madden20XX on TV, they almost always use REPLAY footage, which IS in game footage but it never actually looks like that when you are playing because of the zoomed out, overhead angle. Why the hell would they show what the game looks like 90% of the time you play it when they could show the awesome looking part that doesn’t really come up that often, but its there. Is that misrepresentation?? And what about EVERY Squaresoft game that shows nothing but pre-rendered cut scenes in their commercials. It’s a common practice in video game (and every other kind of) advertising. You show the best side of your product while hiding the less attractive sides of it.
Drink Budweiser! It will get you drunk and make you hit your girlfriend!! Oh, and it tastes great too!
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I will post mine when i get back home from work. I liked your one waffle i had problems running streams film (all i got was audio)
I understand this commercial is being run on the US history chl but i have yet to see a non US allied plane in any of these commercial attempts. You would think the war in the pacific was the only air battle of ww2. I keep seeing P51's vs lw, f6's vs zekes, lw Vs B17 etc. Was it in the competion rules that you have to cater for a historically ignorant public.:rolleyes: I my-self have a greater view on the type of audience that maybe viewing this commercial. Thought it may be nice to add some UK planes also aswell as JP, lw and US think i missed the Russians and italians and im very sorry for that:(
Good luck to Paulv from what i have seen he should win this thing.<>
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You stand a MUCH greater chance of being in a historically accurate fight if you fly Axis planes over allied ones.
The greater majority of my fights are against one of 4 types.
dw..Spit, La's,P-51's, P38s.
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Originally posted by MENDEZ
I liked your one waffle i had problems running streams film (all i got was audio)
http://www.divx.com 5.2.1 Codec Bundle... you can just install the codec.
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Looks good stream:aok Again only US planes though:(
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My Commercial (http://www.ahfilms.com/golfer/golfersahcommercial30sec.wmv)
This was the first movie I ever made and I used windows movie maker and the free version of fraps.
The final draft of this commercial has the Fraps propaganda cropped out.
Music-Me on the geetar
Voice-me on the mic
Planes-every one of them are me and i mostly did them specific for shots I'd want for the commercial.
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i think i have a good chance of winning.
my video (http://furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/userfiles/Furball/pwn.gif)
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Originally posted by Furball
i think i have a good chance of winning.
my video (http://furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/userfiles/Furball/pwn.gif)
LMAO!~!
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(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/180_1119053872_pwn.gif)
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I'd like to post mine but I promised someone I wouldnt. So good luck to the winner
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spade...no go on the email. try again here (cfigeorge@earthlink.net) since AOL's spam filter is gay.
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Originally posted by Furball
i think i have a good chance of winning.
my video (http://furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/userfiles/Furball/pwn.gif)
I know funny...
And THAT'S funny.
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Hehe Golfer..ya made me wanna buy some Country Time Lemonade there! Nice job though. Wish I knew how to do it.
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Thanks for links to your submissions, guys. I'm looking forward to seeing the ad on TV. What's the planned airing date -- does anyone know?
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Well, here's my view:
I see something to like in all three videos. But if I was HTC I wouldn't see any of them as ready to show.
One has great aerial footage, and I love the end screen on that one (Waffle).
Stream has some super shots that ought to be included of the cruiser, LVTs, and tanks.
Golfer has a great concept with the salesman's voiceover.
I think all these elements need to be blended together, but there's an important point missing in all of 'em - the fact that in Aces High, you're playing with and against real people in real time.
culero
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Originally posted by Golfer
My Commercial (http://www.ahfilms.com/golfer/golfersahcommercial30sec.wmv)
This was the first movie I ever made and I used windows movie maker and the free version of fraps.
The final draft of this commercial has the Fraps propaganda cropped out.
Music-Me on the geetar
Voice-me on the mic
Planes-every one of them are me and i mostly did them specific for shots I'd want for the commercial.
Thats a damn good commercial.
bout the only thing I would change is "you can fly a p51 mustang or any of the (however many number of planes there are) and escort or shoot down bombers"
But I think this is definately on the right track
Very nice work
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Thanks for the input Drediock. That's why I "released" the film earlier than the deadline so I could get some input in both the raw filmmaking aspect so I could improve as well as input on the commercial.
There have been no complaints about the commercial and I see that as a big positive. I don't expect to win and sadly because I'm on dialup I have a difficult time downloading large files with the limited amount of time I spend online.
I agree that the script could be improved, but in order to get everything into the commercial (as pyro warned in the announcement) you'll need to be fast and furious.
I took the line they said which was along the lines of "a concept and knowledge of WWII history" and ran with it. Everyone watching Discovery Wings (military channel) and the History Channel knows what a P-51 is and what it did. I wanted to get the people thinking about the game in their minds because if a commercial makes someone think...then it's done it's job. They'll teach you that in an advertising class :)
Anyway...I do wish I could have put more into it but the only way to cover the whole aspect of the game is to come up with a high intensity workout which was exactly what I didn't like about the "where can you?!" commercial.
I chose to go a slower route while showing a few points of detail. The very detailed landing gear retraction/gear doors (giving the viewer a moment to imagine himself controlling a real P-51) or the landing on a carrier which looks remarkably like the real thing allowing to think back to newsreels they'd seen. The flyby of the paratroopers over 'st mere egliese' or any one of a number of places that random town may have been (i think it was A5 in the TA lol!) and the 262 shots including an approach to landing.
Give the person a few seconds to watch and become immersed in the commercial and I think the number of 'hooksets,' if I may be permitted a simile of the trolling mentality of our BBs, and people who will log into the website and learn all they need to know or all that I didn't cover with the commercial.
The biggest thing I was worried about was my video editing skills (or lack thereof!)
Again...thanks to everyone who gave input over the last month and hopefully I'll be able to contribute AH music videos in the future!
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Originally posted by Golfer
I don't expect to win and sadly because I'm on dialup I have a difficult time downloading large files with the limited amount of time I spend online.
Anyway...I do wish I could have put more into it but the only way to cover the whole aspect of the game is to come up with a high intensity workout which was exactly what I didn't like about the "where can you?!" commercial.
I think you have every chance of winning.
With all due respects for the other entries I think this is the best yet overall. But thats just my opinion.
When I used to have diealup and had to DL large files I'd to it while I slept.
Just start the DL before you go to bed and it should be finished by the time you wake up. And if for some reason the DL fails you literally didnt loose any sleep over it LOL.
If there is something large you want to DL and for some reason cant. Drop me a line and I'll DL it for you,burn it to CD and snail mail it to ya.
Your right, the slower route is the way to go. Much better then the "Where can YOU" addy which to me seemed more like the annoyance of a jackhammer then something I'd want to listen to.
You just want it to stop LOL
Yours is like. "Hmm whats this? It made me say, "hey that looks cool" and I play this game LOL
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Originally posted by Sp4de
I'd like to post mine but I promised someone I wouldnt. So good luck to the winner
lol
Why?
Just post it. You dont have to enter it.
Will they murder your entire family if you enter it?
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How now brown cow.
(Edited due to undisclosed reasons.)
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Originally posted by Morpheus
lol
Why?
Just post it. You dont have to enter it.
Will they murder your entire family if you enter it?
Untill I get the ok from someone I dont want to post it.
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Originally posted by Sp4de
I'd like to post mine but I promised someone I wouldnt. So good luck to the winner
Bull-chips, Spade! POST THE COMMERCIAL DAMMMMMMIT!!!1111
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LOL WTF?
you need a note from home first?
i dont get it.
if its your film. why not? haha
i wont lose sleep over not seeing it... but wtf? lol
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he's prolly waiting for permission from the host, Morph. and, i can totally understand that.
Spade, my boy, when you get permission...son...
[size=10]POST THE COD-DAMNED CUMERCIAAAAAL!!11!!!!![/size]
:D
Thank you.
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Word to the wise. Leave sp4de alone. Or else...
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Wait. I found it!
"Spade now has my permission to post the film of the AH commercial. I wanted to make sure he cleaned his room first.
Yours truely,
Spades mother"
Bah,,wanted to do a Juan Epstien type note but dont think it came out as well LOL
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Spade you said you emailed it my way and I have had no emails. Kindly resend here (cfigeorge@earthlink.net) or here (cfigeorge@aol.com)
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Originally posted by Drunky
Word to the wise. Leave sp4de alone. Or else...
Or else what? :cool:
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Originally posted by Golfer
Spade you said you emailed it my way and I have had no emails. Kindly resend here (cfigeorge@earthlink.net) or here (cfigeorge@aol.com)
I was going to and Im not sure if i can yet.
Just hold off ok guys? You will get to see it i just want to make sure of something first.
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Originally posted by Sp4de
I was going to and Im not sure if i can yet.
Just hold off ok guys? You will get to see it i just want to make sure of something first.
Must need to make sure all "actors" were of legal age and consenting....
:)
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Originally posted by Furball
i think i have a good chance of winning.
my video (http://furballunderground.com/blueknights_pictures/userfiles/Furball/pwn.gif)
we have a winner!!!!!!!!!!!
:rofl :rofl LMAO :rofl :rofl
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Originally posted by Sp4de
I was going to and Im not sure if i can yet.
Just hold off ok guys? You will get to see it i just want to make sure of something first.
ok man, but please hurry up. my life is rapidly falling apart without it.
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Nice work guys.Real nice.
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Golfer :aok
Furball :lol
Tried to view some others but downloads too long or other problems.
Great creativity by all. Way to use the medium to the max!