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Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: DA98 on December 03, 2001, 06:25:00 PM
And it's the Fw-190 A5. With    :eek:  28   :eek: different version/ordenances.


FW 190 A-4/U1 (2xMG 151/20)
FW 190 A-4/U1 (2xMG 151/20 + 1xSC 250)
FW 190 A-4/U1 (2xMG 151/20 + 1xAB 250)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xSC 250)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xAB 250)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xSC 500)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xAB 500)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-4/U8 (2xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-4/U8 (1xSC 250 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-4/U8 (1xSC 500 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U2 (2xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-5/U2 (1xSC 250 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (MG/FF Removed)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xSC 250)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xAB 250)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xSC 500)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xAB 500)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xSC 250 + 4xSC 50)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xAB 250 + 4xSC 50)
FW 190 A-5/U8 (2xMG 151/20 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U8 (1xSC 500 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U8 (1xAB 500 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U17 (1xSC 500 + 4xSC 50)
FW 190 A-5/R1 (1xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-5/R1 (1xSC 500)
FW 190 A-5/R1 (1xAB 500)
FW 190 A-5/R6 (2xWfr.Gr. 21)


For more info:
 http://www.ilyushin2.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001333.html (http://www.ilyushin2.net/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001333.html)  

and

 http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zzwmh (http://forums.ubi.com/messages/message_view-topic.asp?name=us_il2sturmovik_gd&id=zzwmh)

[ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: DA98 ]
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Wardog on December 03, 2001, 07:26:00 PM
So IL2 can get 200+ people in the arena now?????

If not, no interest here.. No use at all for Boxed games.. Exactly what good are planes that you cant fly against other people?

The 190a5 is useless with even 1 loadout if ya cant fly it against other people!!

Dog out......

[ 12-03-2001: Message edited by: Wardog ]
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Sunchaser on December 03, 2001, 07:40:00 PM
Wardog, I don't think DA98 was trying to convert you, just relaying info.

And you can actually fly it against other people....well ya can if you can actually get online with it just not quite 200 of them.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: DA98 on December 03, 2001, 08:06:00 PM
Wardog, I'm not trying to convert anyone, the post is just for the people who bought IL-2 or may be interested in buying it. There was great expectation about what the new plane could be, so I thought that some people might be interested in knowing that the plane is the Fw-190 A5 (with a lot of toys to play with  :D).

About the MP... I played some MP missions with the beta, and you are right, there aren't 400 players connected as in the MA, 16/32 (coop/dogfight) is the maximum. But if you tried and liked the CT arena, you know that you don't need 400 players to have fun in a realistic environment  :).
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Gadfly on December 03, 2001, 08:40:00 PM
It is a perfectly crappy game if you want 200 AWAC's following dweebs gangbanging you and stealing your kills, insulting you all the while.  On the other hand, you and 15 of yer Buds can fly it and have time of your life.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Wardog on December 03, 2001, 08:55:00 PM
Hmmmm

nope, still not sold.

After 5 years in AW-DOS, 5 Years in WBS and 2 years in AH, i still have no interest in the Boxed game. Even in AH latenight early moring i can find 80 or so guys flying.

16/32 guys in IL2, they all on at different times of the day, 24 hours a day?

Gladfly, im sure your a good shoe salesman. Please stay with it, cause sellin Box games just aint workin for ya  ;)

Dog out........
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: capt. apathy on December 03, 2001, 09:15:00 PM
the on-line is not near as big as aces but for individual missions it kicks ass.
you can set up 16 guys on a mission, define objectives and if somebody don't show your nights not screwed you just assign his slot to ai. this game rocks i traded in all my other flight sims last weekend.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Gadfly on December 03, 2001, 11:14:00 PM
http://www.lizking.com/sortiebombers.jpg (http://www.lizking.com/sortiebombers.jpg)

 http://www.lizking.com/sortiejetty.jpg (http://www.lizking.com/sortiejetty.jpg)

 http://www.lizking.com/sortiembr.jpg (http://www.lizking.com/sortiembr.jpg)


It isn't for everyone, and I had serious doubts, but, provided 5 or 8 people can hook up, it is sweet.  It won't replace AH or any other game; think of it as an extremely detailed Scenario, something you organize, not a MA type thing.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Staga on December 04, 2001, 02:21:00 AM
It's not MMPG but it is a sim with nice FM and DM and stunning graphics with real looking cockpits, snow-storms and rains, lightnings etc etc.

It'w worth of money  :)
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Fishu on December 04, 2001, 03:17:00 AM
You who have IL2, try to sometime set up big artillery to barrage a city with enemies in there and then set up few cameras and go enjoy the show  :)

Especially interesting with subwoofer.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: leonid on December 04, 2001, 05:26:00 AM
Well, Wardog, I played WB for 2 years, AH for 2, and now I prefer a setup like il2 to MMOP.  If I was into arena play I'd probably still be into AH.  But Il2 makes historical missions come alive.  Of course, there's none of the versatility of AH or WB or AW, but my WWII interests reside in the Great Patriotic War, and not much else  :)
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Animal on December 04, 2001, 05:59:00 AM
Why are you trying to convince him?
He's stubborn and close minded (because he never played the game)

I'm sure that if he tries it, and at least TRIES to like it, he will enjoy it.
If he doesnt, then who cares.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: gatt on December 04, 2001, 06:22:00 AM
Thx for the info DA98   :)
Look, you cannot even post an intersting info in the OT forum that an ugly warcheerleader comes out of his hole LOL,   :D

[ 12-04-2001: Message edited by: gatt ]
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Chaos68 on December 04, 2001, 07:28:00 AM
im still playing the demo of IL2, I dont have enough money to buy the game right now.  :(

I love IL2 i cant wait to buy the game.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: LUPO on December 04, 2001, 07:47:00 AM
Quote
Wardog wrote: After 5 years in AW-DOS, 5 Years in WBS and 2 years in AH, i still have no interest in the Boxed game.  
Wardog after 12 years spent being part of a community you'd learn to be more polite with people...
  :p
Tks for the info DB!!!
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: LUPO on December 04, 2001, 07:50:00 AM
And of course, DA98, I have to say that I'd love to see the same amount of 190's variants in AH!!!   :D

 (http://lupoweb.supereva.it/LUPO190a.jpg)
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: mauser on December 04, 2001, 11:05:00 AM
From DA98:
And it's the Fw-190 A5. With  28  different version/ordenances.

FW 190 A-4/U1 (2xMG 151/20)
FW 190 A-4/U1 (2xMG 151/20 + 1xSC 250)
FW 190 A-4/U1 (2xMG 151/20 + 1xAB 250)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xSC 250)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xAB 250)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xSC 500)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xAB 500)
FW 190 A-4/U3 (1xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-4/U8 (2xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-4/U8 (1xSC 250 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-4/U8 (1xSC 500 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U2 (2xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-5/U2 (1xSC 250 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (MG/FF Removed)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xSC 250)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xAB 250)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xSC 500)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xAB 500)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xSC 250 + 4xSC 50)
FW 190 A-5/U3 (1xAB 250 + 4xSC 50)
FW 190 A-5/U8 (2xMG 151/20 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U8 (1xSC 500 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U8 (1xAB 500 + 2xDroptank)
FW 190 A-5/U17 (1xSC 500 + 4xSC 50)
FW 190 A-5/R1 (1xType D Droptank)
FW 190 A-5/R1 (1xSC 500)
FW 190 A-5/R1 (1xAB 500)
FW 190 A-5/R6 (2xWfr.Gr. 21)


Wow.. lots of toys! Are there panzershrek or panzerblitz in IL2?

mauser
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Gadfly on December 04, 2001, 11:17:00 AM
Note that that is not anywhere near a complete set of the 190 variants/loadouts in the game
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: R4M on December 04, 2001, 12:12:00 PM
Yeah Gadfly. And here in AH we don't even have a decently-represented Fw190F8 (they even discuss you wether it had wing racks for DT and heavy bombs or not...sheesh)...

I ordered my copy of Il-2 today. Hopefully next week I'll have it. I had my personal fears about that game FM but it seems that it is at least credible enough to make it immersive. Plus there are lots of loadout options for each plane.

Worth a try.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: AKSWulfe on December 04, 2001, 04:29:00 PM
Getting somewhat pissed at UBIsoft.. Where in the hell is this patch? The Russian version had the patch available over 24 hours ago... what the hell is this roadkill?

They chose a crappy distributer when they went with ubisoft.
-SW
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Fishu on December 04, 2001, 06:43:00 PM
So much for tuesday release as well..

time to go sleep and thank ubi for once again talking this and doing that.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Wardog on December 04, 2001, 07:05:00 PM
Go the demo, tryed it.. Couldnt find 200+ people to fight. Deleted it..

Am pretty sure those who like playing with themself will have fun with it.

If they open an online arena like AH, WB, AW then my interest might be peaked.

LUPO never bothered to read my post right through, i stated very politly that i had no interest in IL2 and my reasons for it. Cant see where i told anyone to fekoff, get lost or go sleep with there sister.. So im not quite sure what your on about :)

It could have the perfect FM, but without 200 or 300 people to try it against, why bother. Its got missions, like Doom?? Never took an interest in that either..


Dog out,...........
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Gadfly on December 04, 2001, 08:04:00 PM
I think the most you can ever see is, what, 32?  The rest are just stuff happening around you, unseen, and so far as it affects you may as well be AI driven.  That is what IL-2 is.

Wardog, I won't look up the posts, but my reaction after doing the demo was pretty much like yours, if not more vociferous.  I was wrong.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Chaos68 on December 06, 2001, 11:44:00 AM
i still play the demo because im a borke ass.

Best thing to do is set up a quick mission and have 20 friendlys and 12 enemy bombers with escorts. and set the alt above 5000. The con trails are awsome!
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: leonid on December 08, 2001, 11:56:00 PM
Ok, Wardog, I hear ya.  Later.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Gadfly on December 09, 2001, 09:38:00 AM
You mean like this:

 (http://www.lizking.com/contrails.jpg)
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: R4M on December 09, 2001, 09:57:00 AM
Got it friday morning.

I'm still trying to get away from computer  :D.

Best WWII flight sim ever. Love it  :).
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: LLv34_Snefens on December 09, 2001, 04:15:00 PM
To bring the topic back on track, that AB-500 bomb is one cool ordinance.  :cool:

Just 3 pics that show a drop on a russian convoy. My release was a little low (engine out), so the bomblets hadn't time to spread out that much (The black puff is from when the spread started)

 (http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens/bombs1.jpg)
 (http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens/bombs2.jpg)
 (http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens/bombs3.jpg)

------------------
Ltn. Snefens
RO, Lentolaivue 34 (http://www.muodos.fi/LLv34)
My AH homepage (http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens)
 (http://home14.inet.tele.dk/snefens/209.gif)
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Tuomio on December 09, 2001, 04:31:00 PM
My new years wish will be: Il-2 to MMPOG!

Maybe Hitech could buy licence for hosting il-2 on their servers for 10$/mo.   :D
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Staga on December 09, 2001, 05:00:00 PM
Think big:
AirWar from AH, GroundWar from WWIIOL and ships'n'subs from SilentHunterII  :D
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: ~Caligula~ on December 10, 2001, 02:04:00 AM
Would be nice,but I think we need to wait with all that untill broadband is the standard.
Right now all online games have to be playable with a dial-up connection because most people sill use dial-up.
Just think about the amount of data needed to be flowing in a full out online war.
56k can`t do it,and releasing games for only broadband users is a move no developer
have the balls to do yet.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: -lynx- on December 11, 2001, 04:46:00 AM
Yes, it's not perfect, yes I hate the viewing system but the attention to detail where it matters (planes, damage etc) is simply mind boggling. You can watch training missions as a movie it's so pretty...

Multiplayer? There are active squadrons out there, I know 5 GvIAP is doing training on-line ;) It's only a question of time when servers will be up and running with scenarios etc.

200 people on-line? Hmmm... You never see at least 170 of those and get involved with a dozen at the most in any one time. What was the problem again? If you don't like it - it's fine but personally I think you're shortchanging yourself there  :)

I just hope that with time more planes will become player controlled - I16 and I153 vs 109Es and He111s - yum! :)

I also wonder if there are language options for people who don't speak Russian since you do need to know what your wingmen and gunners tell you? ;)
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: easymo on December 11, 2001, 10:10:00 AM
"releasing games for only broadband users is a move no developer"

  Still. You have to wonder how hard it would be to set up a separate room for broad ban users.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: ~Caligula~ on December 11, 2001, 05:41:00 PM
That`s a good idea,and I`ve actually seen it done on the zone I think.
Maybe they`d have to make two different netcodes for the broadband and the modem users.
Title: New IL-2 plane is out
Post by: Badger on December 13, 2001, 06:07:00 AM
For IL-2 online players who want an option to using either UbiSoft or HyperLobby, check out "The All-Seeing Eye".

Besides providing metaserver support to a ton of online games such as Ghost Recon, Operation Flashpoint, Rogue Spear etc, I noticed that they are supporting IL-2 under their (believe it or not) "oldies" section.  

It's FREE.
 http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/index.html (http://www.udpsoft.com/eye/index.html)

Regards,
Badger