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Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 16, 2005, 11:02:26 PM
Hey gents!

Again let me thank you for your kind offers. I accept on behalf of my Dad.

He's pretty special to me and if you followed the story of the mid-air during the run against the docked Japanese destroyer, you know he never really quite got over it or got past it.

I'm going to bid the kit on Ebay at least up to the original list of $50.... unless you guys think that's crazy. I may go higher anyway. This is too good an opportunity.

I'm glad we've got both Shane and EddieK to back that up.

Nuke, I'm not going to press for it. I now you're up to your neck in the new biz, so it'll get done when it gets done.

As a side note, my Dad got to take his PT-26 up yesterday. Mom says it takes 10 years off him for days afterwards. He's still a great stick.

He has a -26 in Canadian colors. Dad is a devout Catholic. Right about the time Mom worried about him going out solo and was ready to put her foot down, a Canadian Priest who was an ex-mechanic for the Canadian Air Force that has a pilot's license moves into Lincoln.  

You have to wonder if these things are coincidence. How many signs are in there? Canadian plane, Canadian Catholic priest, warbird mechanic/safety pilot.... I don't know who else my Mom would have trusted to go out with him if not this guy!

The priest is a great guy, keeps his homeland's history in tip-top shape and he and dad are like peas and carrots.

Now this.... what a GREAT week.

Thank you all!
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Shane on June 16, 2005, 11:37:44 PM
Also,  if there are any Hobby Lobby in your area, check them out - they *may* have some in stock - the AM B-25b/c, that is - that's where I picked mine up last winter.

also...

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AJ3431

squadron used to (still?) have a retail shop out in wheaton, MD  called eagle squadron or something.

Squadron has a very good rep for online purchases - only offer what they have in stock.  while prices can be a tad more expensive than other online shops, they're very good with handling orders and shipping.

also sprue brothers has a pretty good rep and competitive pricing...  http://spruebrothers.zoovy.com/product/ACM3431


no matter where you get your kit, be sure to check out shipping charges before you commit.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 16, 2005, 11:40:54 PM
Will do, we have one pretty close by. Thanks.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Shane on June 16, 2005, 11:48:08 PM
check the edited info to my previous post.  sprue bros has one left in stock..

also hobby lobby has infrequent 1/2 or 40% off plastic kit sales, but the selection for aircraft is usually so-so - they're more into cars it seems, but they do offer occasional gems from tamiya and AM.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 12:04:06 AM
you could build one that flys...

a lil (53") electric one:

Electric Powered B-25 ARF (http://www.hobby-lobby.com/b25.htm)

or maybe something a bit more sophisticated. ;)

(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/bombers47.jpg)

How to get 'er done:

Construction details for a Ziroli B-25 (giant scale) (http://flyinglindy.homestead.com/b25construction.html)

If you deicide to go either way I can be of some help. ;)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 12:14:49 AM
Lol! GREAT timing!

I just got outbid on E-bay. Now it's just as cheap from Sprue.

I can't seem to get it into the cart at Sprue. Will call them in the AM.

Thanks for the heads up!

Hang, that's a beauty. Does anyone custom build those? The electric one might be a great gift.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Guppy35 on June 17, 2005, 12:32:45 AM
Got a 345th Accurate Miniatures B25C here:

http://www.skywaymodel.com/airplanes_48th_1.html

Here for about 39 bucks

http://www.best1hobby.com/html/accurate/amnair.html

$51 here:

http://www.jjfpub.mb.ca/accurate_miniatures.htm

Nice review of a build of it here:

http://www.hsgalleries.com/gallery04/b25csg_1.htm


Dan/CorkyJr
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 12:34:18 AM
You'd cry if I told yah how much the big boy goes for custom built... between 101 & 116" span, weights about 40 pounds thunderin down the runway... ballpark about Six Grand and 300 hours build time.

The lil electric builds up as nice BIG display model.. fly's pretty good fer a gay electric. (there's video on the site) I guess all up it could be done fer about six hundred and 20 hours build/setup time.

Either can be 'scaled out' very, very nicely.

Both require skilled piloting.. and I hate to say it to full scale pilots; ;) buddy yah ain't got a snowball's chance in a BBQ of gettin it down in one piece with out a whole buncha stick time in R/C first... especially the big boy. Not to worry tho.. there's plenty of R/C flight simulators for the PC... getcha good enuff to fly the electric in a biiiig grass (soft) field.

But, costs be damned, its sooooooooooooo much fun flying big scale warbirds... I getta huge kick outta it. Finishing up my first 'stringbag' now.. a SE5a, 80" and 20 lbs. LOL.. canvas overcast. ;)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Guppy35 on June 17, 2005, 12:37:30 AM
One more spot to get the 345th B25 by Accurate Miniatures.  $42

http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=AJ3431

Dan/CorkyJr
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 12:45:34 AM
Thanks Dan!

Not going to be as hard to get one as I feared the. I'll grab one of those for sure.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Rino on June 17, 2005, 06:36:14 AM
Toad I'm still willing to set your dad up with a diecast 25.  My
only trouble so far has been that they have all been the sister
squadron's birds so far.

     I'm blanking on whether your Dad was in the 500th BS or
501st BS.  If you think he'd like one, let me know.

     With another quick check with Diecastairplane.com they have
C models from the 499th and 500th and a D model from the 499th
in 1/48 scale.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 09:06:35 AM
Rino,

Appreciate it, Buddy! I checked those out when you mentioned it. He was 501st Black Panthers. Call them diecast guys and get them to make a 501st!
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 17, 2005, 02:46:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Hangtime

or maybe something a bit more sophisticated. ;)

(http://www.rcwarbirds.com/bombers47.jpg)

How to get 'er done:

Construction details for a Ziroli B-25 (giant scale) (http://flyinglindy.homestead.com/b25construction.html)

If you deicide to go either way I can be of some help. ;)


I have the Ziroli B25 in my garage:D
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 03:20:42 PM
Flyable? Or in a pile of unassembled or maybe "previously assembled" pieces? ;)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 17, 2005, 03:53:58 PM
It's fully assembled, glassed, panel lined, riveted, hatched, painted, weathered. Retracts engines are in. We are working on the gear door sequencing ... for the last year, the restoration of the Torino took our mind away from the project for now. It has yet to fly, no turrets/cockpit done so far. I was very mildly involved in the building, panel lining/ rivetting/painting/weathering/markings is more my cup of tea.

My boss owns it, it's the first he bought as a test bed, he has 2 other kits in the box waiting.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 03:56:58 PM
Pretty neat. Maybe since they clipped my wings, I ought to get into R/C.

Or maybe ultralights.........  although I hear those things cost as much as a good Taylorcraft or Aeronca now. Sheesh.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 03:59:51 PM
G23/26's or G38's for engines?

Does he wanna sell it?

Nick Ziroli's a friend of mine.. his shops about 6 miles from here. We've got several of 'em (B-25's) flying around here.. excellent performer. Only one down-tick.. engine out w/ one the G-23's is a very very bad thing... we reccomend the G-38's.. one's enff to keep her airborne if the pilots REAL good and correctly interpets which one quit...

;)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 04:01:51 PM
How does it glide?  ;)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 04:02:52 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
Pretty neat. Maybe since they clipped my wings, I ought to get into R/C.

Or maybe ultralights.........  although I hear those things cost as much as a good Taylorcraft or Aeronca now. Sheesh.


Only one thin to say about ultralights... windshear. Yer a pilot.. what're the chances?

On the other hand, wiped a beautiful Cub out last year (R/C), got slapped on the downwind turn with a wind gust. When I came in with the mangled wreck I was smiling... one of the guys asked 'why you grinning??'

"I wasn't in it".

;)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 17, 2005, 04:04:38 PM
G45s:D
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 04:08:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
How does it glide?  ;)


Poorly.. put the sink rate is manageble. Trick is to keep the nose down and keep the airspeed way up and stay off the throttle. Coordinated turns a must. Flare like usual. No Flaps.

Plenty of Spichter english. :)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 04:10:17 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
G45s:D


Ohhh rah. Blistering speed; massive power.. lordy. Suggestion.. add a smoke pump on one engine. Wow's the crowd with a simulated 'engine out'. :)
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 17, 2005, 04:11:53 PM
So, if a motor quits are you better off cutting the other and deadsticking in?

Or try to land single-engine?


Ultralights and windshear? That'd be an E-ticket ride for sure; probably your last one.

I was thinking the sunrise or sunset 30 minute cruise on the very, very calm days. I mean, it's not like you have to actually get anywhere in a UL. It's just for the heck of it.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on June 17, 2005, 04:14:08 PM
I'll pass on the word. I'll see if I can find my camera, I'll snap a shot. Nothing really fancy.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 04:25:17 PM
Nice thing about the G-45's, Frenchy, is you can spin a scale sized 3 bladed prop... and it'll fly beautifly just off idle; and cripes, with the engines just a tad off sysnc it sounds so damn good.. ;)

Toad, yep; generally yah come back to idle on the mill that's still turning, set yer descent and get dirty and trimmed for the glide. Stay off the power in the base and final turns, keeping the nose down and the speed up. If yer gonna be a bit short, then bring the power up GENTLY... feeding rudder (you'll need it all) and cross controlling as necessary to keep her on the line.

I've seen it done.. twice. Always brought a roar of approval from the pits.. sadly, most often a twin with one deadsticked is a trajedy. :(
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: NUKE on June 17, 2005, 10:42:23 PM
Toad, just sent you an email.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: Toad on June 18, 2005, 12:19:05 AM
Got it, thanks. Replied. I don't check that addy real consistently.
Title: B-25 Model Nuke, Shane, EddieK
Post by: eddiek on June 18, 2005, 04:45:56 AM
Keep those links the other guys posted, Toad.  I am right in the middle of my work stint, and when I get back home from my 12 hour shifts, I am pretty much brain dead.......
I "think" I have it narrowed down to one of two places on the location of the kit(s)......but it will be Monday before I can drag myself into that area of the house to look (mucho junk stored up there).
In any case, keep us posted on what you find online.  I will look at the hobby stores in Amarillo in the meantime.
I know that Hobby Lobby in Amarillo, Amarillo Hobby House, and one other store have a good selection of aircraft models.  AHH just seems to think theirs is a cut above the rest and price things accordingly.
I'd stay away from the eBay deals myself, got burned on a few of them, but to each his own.........
Well, off to work for me...........later, guys!!