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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: SMIDSY on June 17, 2005, 02:27:08 AM
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well, its official. i am to be a Seabee in the united states navy. although i was slated to be an sonar tech. why change my rating? well, my decision to be a sonarman was sort of a spurr of the moment decision adn i did not think it though very well. however, for years now i have wanted to be a seabee. and now my dream has come true. i ship out for basic training in august.:aok
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Probably a lot more useful training that you can use in civilian life later on unless you wanted to learn electronics.
:aok
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electronics may pay well but it is too tedious. i like building stuff.
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Best of luck to you!
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Building stuff is just one part of it. You actually get to UNBUILD stuff with explosives too. :D
Good luck to ya.
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SeaBees!
An instructor at my Bootcamp was a seabee, and there is a SeaBee HQ at NAS jax.
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Good Luck Bud. Going down the same path as you next year.
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Originally posted by Maverick
You actually get to UNBUILD stuff with explosives too. :D
The real Mav steps forward.
G/L Smidsy! Thanks for serving!
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what is a seabee?
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Originally posted by JB73
what is a seabee?
Construction Battalion... CB... Sea Bee.
My next door neighbor is a CB. Good guy.
Best of luck, SMIDSY.
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CB, can stand for Construction Battalion and/or Combat Battalion. But I believe the first is correct.
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Good luck SMIDSY!
SeaBee - CB - Construction Battalion.
*couple minutes slow on the draw for me*
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BTW... do you know what rate you'll be SMIDSY?
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so he'll build buildings and stuff?
isn't the navy out to sea generally? (i know there are some on land, but isn't the nature of ther navy to be in the water?)
sorry i know nothing of military ranks, jobs, names, or any of that stuff.
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Originally posted by JB73
so he'll build buildings and stuff?
isn't the navy out to sea generally? (i know there are some on land, but isn't the nature of ther navy to be in the water?)
sorry i know nothing of military ranks, jobs, names, or any of that stuff.
The Navy does have bases and facilities on land. In hostile areas, they are built and maintained by the Navy, with Navy personnel.
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Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
The Navy does have bases and facilities on land. In hostile areas, they are built and maintained by the Navy, with Navy personnel.
i know that... thats what i am asking... is he going to be building / maintaing them?
or is "Construction Battalion" a navy way of saying something completely different?
it just is odd to me such a well known position (you all seem to know exactly what it is) would exixt while not in direct contact with the water in any way. i mean working on the ships in harbor, serving on the ships, flying the planes off the ships, in contact in some way with the boats is what i guess i envision 3/4 or more of the navy doing.
i could be mistaken and 3/4 of the navy never see's the water even, but that doesn't make sense. i just know nothing about all this and it is confusing the heck out of me LOL.
could someone please explain exactly what a seabee is (as in job functions), and why everyone automatically know what it is.
thank you,.
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SeaBee fix,build, unbuild pretty much anything. They do anything from repairing things on other military branch bases to building bridges on the other side of the world. SeaBees work hand in hand with Marines, and from what I hear from my recruiter, the SeaBees will be converted to the Marines in the future.
They do work on water too. Im going in for Marine Engineering (the water kind) Will be building/repairing/ and designing new ships.
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SeaBee's also build bases for the USMC. Marines don't exactly stay out to sea. They tend to go inland and establish a base.
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They also do security in hostile areas, where new bases are being built.
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Originally posted by BlueJ1
They do work on water too. Im going in for Marine Engineering (the water kind) Will be building/repairing/ and designing new ships.
Sweet!!!
sharks with fricken lazerbeams on their heads!!
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thank you. that makes sense now.
you say they will be transferred to the marines? i guess that is more logical. thats what was making me go "what the heck"?
all armed forces if i typed badly and made it sound inflamatory i did not, it just bugs me when i don't understand something, and can't logically figure it out
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SeaBee's typically work closely with the marines...or they used to. In my stint in the military, stayed at Panama one time and we were on a naval base. Our quarters were in between SeaBees and Seal quarters. Both Seals and SeaBees partied hard.
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Hey!
The kid's just now signing up!
Quit trying to run him off with all this talk of hanging around with Marines!
;)
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The Army also has a segment of itself outside of the Corps of Engineers that performs a similar function. They are responsible for helping combat ops with establishment of barriers, barrier removal as well as bridging water obstacles. While they are not considered a strictly combat unit like Infantry, Armor or Artillery they are certainly in combat just as intense if not more so at times.
Both the Seabees and the Combat Engineers have a very proud history and tradition. Just because you are in a unit who's main weapon is a bulldozer does not mean it isn't closely tied to combat. to the members of both.
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SeaBees, among others helped make island hopping possible during WWII in the Pacific. Coconut grove --> airbase for bombers and fighters.
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mauser
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Yep, the SeaBees carved many a base out of the island jungles across the Pacific during WWII. Some of them also become mechanics while onboard ships. Good friend of mine was a SeaBee from 72- 80ish I think. Great guy. He can build or fix just about anything.
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Originally posted by Goth
SeaBee's typically work closely with the marines...or they used to. In my stint in the military, stayed at Panama one time and we were on a naval base. Our quarters were in between SeaBees and Seal quarters. Both Seals and SeaBees partied hard.
When I was in SA in Desert Storm, I had a HUGE perimeter to secure. I need to channel any aggressors. SO Instead of digging and such by hand I request some SeaBee help. 6 guys show up with Bulldozers and backhoes. I gave em my plan they looked at it and made few changes and 8 hours later Walllaaaaaaa Instant defense zone. All I had to do was lay wire, mines and trip flares.
My unblistered hands and unbroken back not to mention those of my troops love the SeaBees.:aok
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
well, its official. i am to be a Seabee in the united states navy. although i was slated to be an sonar tech. why change my rating? well, my decision to be a sonarman was sort of a spurr of the moment decision adn i did not think it though very well. however, for years now i have wanted to be a seabee. and now my dream has come true. i ship out for basic training in august.:aok
The best of luck to you. You'll be in good company, considering teh history of the SeaBees. Me late father-in-law was a SeaBee in the PTO in WWII. Saw action in the early years of Guadalcanal.
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Originally posted by Sandman
BTW... do you know what rate you'll be SMIDSY?
Builder.
i go to DEP (delayed entry program) meetings every wednesday, we do PT and learn stuff bout the navy. its kinda like layed back basic training. anyway this takes place at the recruiting building which is clustered with all the other branch's buildings so when i show up early to a meeting and nobody is in the navy office, a guy from the marine, army and sometimes coast gaurd office will invite me in out of the sun. so i get along with marines, among others.
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Originally posted by Toad
Hey!
The kid's just now signing up!
Quit trying to run him off with all this talk of hanging around with Marines!
;)
:rolleyes:
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Hehe, don't take it so hard, Jarhead, kid's got brains after all!!
Congrats and good luck, Smidsy.
Look me up when you get off active duty, if you do.
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will do.
PS
now remember, a marine is just a salor with anger issues and an attitude problem.
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My Uncle was a SeaBee in the Pacific in WW2 as well. Good luck to you.
Hey... Guns... It's a JOKE son, Ah say a JOKE!
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my grandfather joined the navy durring WWII because he "was too old to be drafted and too young to stay home." so he has been very supportive of me.
my dad was initialy pissed, then he got over it, then he found out i signed up for 8 years, then he found out that was the standard enlistment length, then he got pissed when he found out a seabee is a dangerous job. and now he is over it again.
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Originally posted by Toad
My Uncle was a SeaBee in the Pacific in WW2 as well. Good luck to you.
Hey... Guns... It's a JOKE son, Ah say a JOKE!
That's humor.........I recognize that.....
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Hey bootcamp! Don't forget these little nuggets o' wisdom:
1. Fallopian tube does NOT exist in the paintlocker.
2. Mail-buoy watch. Don't fall for it.
3. Saltpeter may or may not be in the food. Hehe.
4. "Ricky" Sunday is actually only about 4 hours long, not a full day.
5. Nothing's more comfortable than a pair of broken-in boondockers. No, seriously, I ain't lying.
6. They don't "tack-on" crows anymore. GD PC Navy.
7. You're first liberty in a foreign country does not mean walking around the city yelling, "Where's the woman with the donkey bar?!?!?"
8. Every sailor on that other ship in port is the enemy. That is until the real enemy starts shooting first.
9. If it doesn't need paint, you're gonna paint it anyway.
10. Listen to your chief, he/she has years of wisdom to help you. When he/she walks away, do it your way.
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
well, its official. i am to be a Seabee in the united states navy. although i was slated to be an sonar tech. why change my rating? well, my decision to be a sonarman was sort of a spurr of the moment decision adn i did not think it though very well. however, for years now i have wanted to be a seabee. and now my dream has come true. i ship out for basic training in august.:aok
so you traded a dark ops room for beaches and hula girls giving you drinks while you pick seashells off the beach..
sounds like a smart choise
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i also gave up the rank of petty officer 3rd classs. but oh well
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What did you give E-4 up for ?
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didnt like the job. besides, i didnt join for the pay. also, rank should go with field experience and not 10 weeks of training.
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Didnt mean why, as in what rank are you getting instead ?
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Assuming no JROTC, he would have gotten PO3 after ST school. Now, it looks like he'll be an E2 after TIR is met after bootcamp.
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
didnt like the job. besides, i didnt join for the pay. also, rank should go with field experience and not 10 weeks of training.
have you signed up yet, IE: actually been to MEPs and taken the oath?
If not talk to your recruiter about all the benies you can, especialy an enlistment bonus. The services are giving out mad cash right now for recruiting and why should you be left out of it?
Don't worry bout him he wants you to sign up more than you do and will usually bend over backwards for a good canidate.
Good luck either way. READ YOUR ENTIRE CONTRACT FRONT AND BACK EVERY SINGLE WORD BEFORE YOU SIGN IT. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT ASK!
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took the oath on march 12. CB was one of the career choices so the transition will be easy. scored 81 on the ASVAB...mostly because of the electronics section because my dad has an obsession with vacum tubes.
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Congrats! It will be hard work under some brutal conditions, but you will learn a ton of transferable skills for when its time to get out.
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unless i get tired of the navy i plan on staying in for as long as they let me.
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SMIDSY,
There are far worse choices to make in life.
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Giving up E-4 isn't nearly as bad as giving up E-5 or E-6. If you're going to do it, do it early.
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well, i partly realized that rank does come with responsability. and after 18 weeks of training i dont think i would be ready for it. i will work my way up just like everyone else.
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Originally posted by Sandman
Giving up E-4 isn't nearly as bad as giving up E-5 or E-6. If you're going to do it, do it early.
Wise words.
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Cool and congrats on joining the "Fighting Seabees".
My daughter who is 18 joined the Navy last November. She left for basic in Great Lakes on December 16th. We went to her basic graduation and it is a very proud moment for a parent. She did her A school at Sheppard Air Force base in Wichita Falls. She also chose the path of a Navy Seabee. She is actualy in town now for two weeks after she graduated A school before she reports to her battalion in Gulfport Mississippi. She is extrememly proud to be a Naval Seabee. She is a CE (construction electrician). In Gulfport they will learn many things that most Navy personel do not. They will learn combat skills such as firing M-16 weapons and others. They learn survival and many other things that the Marines do. They know that when the Marines go in first, that Seabees also go in with them. Seabees are actualy a special forces type unit in many cases. No not like the SEALS, but they specialty training as well as combat training. They are trained to fight as well as build. She tells me that she will never be on a ship lol. Anywhere they go they most likely fly there, or at least fly to the carrier that will send in the first troops. I am very proud of her as well as concerned for her safety. Her battalion ships to Baghdad in February. One side of me wishes she would not have been a CB so I could feel she would be safely out to sea. But the thing is, as with most of the young military personel, she wants to go there. She wants to help the Iraqi people.
Holy cow!!! I have just went on and on, well anyways, thanks for the post so that I could talk about how proud I am of my daughter and all of the men and women who serve.
The motto for the Seabees is
"We Build, We Fight"
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it would be cool if i ended up in the same unit as her. but it prolly wont happen.
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I knew quite a few Bosun'mates that gave up E-5 and E-6 on a regular basis. They were big fans of the 45/45 club.
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45/45 club? not aware of this.
all i know is that i can serve my country better as a seabee than a sonar tech.
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Only requirement is you have to go to a neat little ceremony called "Captain's Mast", which in and of itself is very neat, and then you can become an official member of the 45/45 club. There are other less prestigious clubs like the 30/30 club and there's even a 15/15 club but nothing is as infamous as the 45/45.
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Only requirement is you have to go to a neat little ceremony called "Captain's Mast", which in and of itself is very neat, and then you can become an official member of the 45/45 club. There are other less prestigious clubs like the 30/30 club and there's even a 15/15 club but nothing is as infamous as the 45/45.
UM....LOL, if you go to Captain Mast, you in big trouble. You don't wanna go there ;)
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could somebody explain what the captain's mast is? also how i can avoid it?
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I'd like to know as well. I have a vague idea that it is something similar to an Article 15 hearing but I really don't know.
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Originally posted by SMIDSY
could somebody explain what the captain's mast is? also how i can avoid it?
It's a hearing (not a trial) conducted by the Commanding Officer. He'll decide if you're guilty and determine punishment.
You can avoid it by staying out of trouble.
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Yes Sandy but SMIDSY still wants to know what the 45/45 club is.
;)
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Originally posted by DiabloTX
Yes Sandy but SMIDSY still wants to know what the 45/45 club is.
;)
45 days restriction and 45 days extra duty... typically served concurrently. :)
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Yep that sounds just like an Article 15 situation otherwise known as Company level punishment.