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Title: Real Men???
Post by: wrag on June 17, 2005, 07:39:13 PM
This is a slant on a possible future I guess...........

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=56278
Title: Real Men???
Post by: bustr on June 17, 2005, 07:55:29 PM
We let women lock us males up in "Wimptitude" over the last 30 years. I guess it's gonna take women looking for real mean to let us back out again because we didn't have the balls in the first place to call them on the PC gender crap when it started.

So I guess Hitech should allow a few la7 and spit skins in the game with pink strips and yellow bows or something so we can be the new hybrid kinda guys from France............. :rolleyes:

Im too old to be anything else but what God made me. A Man.......................... ............................. ........;)
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Meatwad on June 17, 2005, 09:04:26 PM
Its the french, their used to being treated like girly men wusses. Look when germans came to france during WW2, french laid down faster then a $5 prostitute.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Hangtime on June 17, 2005, 09:10:47 PM
*sigh*

whelp, let the record show.. this time, it wasn't me.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 18, 2005, 04:53:05 AM
Now you see this is why I'd be the worst person to be put in charge - I'd ban the jerks above for a month, yes I know they're just stupid red neck bigots but a moderator got to do what a moderators got to do.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: wrag on June 18, 2005, 05:11:09 AM
Hmm........

OK this, at least to me isn't aimed at any nationality.

True it mentions a nationality, but it also points at sexism.  And possible futures.

Hmm maybe I shouldn't have posted this after all :(
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 18, 2005, 05:19:05 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
...yes I know they're just stupid red neck bigots ...


What... you have a predisposition against stupid red neck bigots?  Tolerance... tolerance...  Our strength is our diversity.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: storch on June 18, 2005, 07:02:25 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Holden McGroin
What... you have a predisposition against stupid red neck bigots?  Tolerance... tolerance...  Our strength is our diversity.


ya schaden you are behaving like an anti-red neck bigot.  meat was just expressing an opinion that is dearly held by some.  as holden said a little tolerance is in order here.  what ever happened to peace, love and understanding?
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Leslie on June 18, 2005, 07:15:34 AM
Yeah, what Storch said.  And what makes you think redneck bigots are stupid Schaden?




Les
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 18, 2005, 08:19:52 AM
Actualy they didn't lay down so fast. They fought pretty hard in some cases. They were just overwhelmed by better tactics and an army that had money spent on it. But hey they want us to pay more to the EU whilst they pay less so please continue ;)
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 18, 2005, 08:22:49 AM
Oh sure you guys say... "let the women vote... what could it possibly hurt?"

Buncha helmet wearing, seatbelt usin, scared a guns, taxi riding sissies..

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 18, 2005, 08:44:45 AM
Are you having a meltdown moment? :lol
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Sandman on June 18, 2005, 09:56:55 AM
(http://www.jimbelushi.ws/gallery/Promos/images/real_men_jpg.jpg)

Bob: I didn't know you smoked.
Nick: Just after sex, Bob. I'm trying to give it up.
Bob: Well, at least you don't smoke that much.
Nick: About a pack a day.
Bob: That'll kill ya!
Nick: Bob, it won't kill ya. But it will make you very sore.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Pongo on June 18, 2005, 10:17:55 AM
Are we to judge America by your fashion designers?
Title: Real Men???
Post by: AmRaaM on June 18, 2005, 10:25:33 AM
Frogs didnt lay down so fast....its hard to lay down while runnin.

First thing my dad had me do when I was old enough was drop my French citizenship when we got to America. And I have no regrets there.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 18, 2005, 10:25:43 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Pongo
Are we to judge America by your fashion designers?


The whole check golf trouser thing is pretty bad....
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 18, 2005, 10:30:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
Now you see this is why I'd be the worst person to be put in charge - I'd ban the jerks above for a month, yes I know they're just stupid red neck bigots but a moderator got to do what a moderators got to do.


What was stupid, redneck (one word, Euroboy) or bigotted about the above?
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 18, 2005, 11:28:53 AM
mmm let's see if you can work this one out for yourself....don't think of it as a test or anything....

Bigotry
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
(Redirected from Bigot)
A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own.

Bigot is often used as pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to their prejudices even when these prejudices are challenged, often engaging these prejudices in a rude and intolerant manner. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology, like racism, religion, and nationalism.

Bigotry is not "intolerance," but "unreasonable intolerance". For example, some Jews may be intolerant of Nazi Anti-Semitism; that doesn't necessarily make them anti-Nazi bigots.

A bigot will continue to hold these opinions even when confronted with evidence that challenges such stereotypes. To protect his views, he may either dismiss the challenges he encounters as an aberration to the norm and ignore the fact that they threaten to undercut his prejudices. On a more extreme level, he may deny the evidence altogether. Both reactions can be classified as forms of cognitive dissonance.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 18, 2005, 11:32:11 AM
The redneck stereotype:

Today, a redneck is a stereotypical southern United States socially conservative, rural, working class white person with northern European ancestry. The stereotypical redneck is a male, has a beer belly, consumes cheap American beer such as Budweiser or Miller by the case (Pabst Blue Ribbon in more traditional settings) as well as Jack Daniel's, and holds deeply conservative political views. Stereotypically they are homophobic, racist and distrustful of "city slickers". The stereotypical redneck also lives in a trailer, drives a large pickup truck with a Confederate Navy Jack flag decal and a gun rack in the rear window, has a stained sleeveless t-shirt, a trucker hat or baseball cap with long sideburns. Their favorite activities include hunting, professional wrestling, NASCAR, monster truck rallies, and car engine repair. Country and Southern Rock bands such as Lynyrd Skynyrd and other classic rock groups from the 1970s are their preferred genre of music.

I might add that they generally get their panties in a twist because when they tried to bully the French they got a rather Gallic shrug and were told to get stuffed - apprently the whole surrender at a drop of a hat doesn't occur when dealing with America.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Leslie on June 18, 2005, 11:46:39 AM
When did Confederates ever bully the French?   And I don't understand the last paragraph Schaden.  Please elaborate.  



Les
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 18, 2005, 12:00:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Leslie
When did Confederates ever bully the French?   And I don't understand the last paragraph Schaden.  Please elaborate.  



Les


Am sure Saurdaukar will assist with an explanation....if he stops pouting that is - though one has to wonder about ANYONE who names himself after the Imperial Storm troopers in a sci fi novel - very, very adolescent or perhaps just confused about growing up.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: storch on June 18, 2005, 01:59:19 PM
ahhhh the old O club is indeed here again.  thanks schaden.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 18, 2005, 07:46:55 PM
Without the French this might be a British BBs and most of you guys would be subjects of Her Majesty and not prone to wasting good tea by floating it! ;) ( see tea thread ):lol
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Toad on June 18, 2005, 08:15:41 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
one has to wonder about ANYONE who names himself after the Imperial Storm troopers in a sci fi novel  


This from a person who's chosen a nom de plume to represent himself to the community as one taking malicious satisfaction in the misfortunes of others.

It's one of the reasons I love this place. :)
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 18, 2005, 08:35:26 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
Am sure Saurdaukar will assist with an explanation....if he stops pouting that is - though one has to wonder about ANYONE who names himself after the Imperial Storm troopers in a sci fi novel - very, very adolescent or perhaps just confused about growing up.


Ewww... I see... you really cant find anything wrong with my question because you know your post was bull**** so you attack my name?

Thats rich.

Especially coming from someone who's name personifies teenage angst.  

Try again.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 19, 2005, 02:14:46 AM
Schaden, I want to protest your post on Rednecks.  As they say, That dog just wont hunt.

First of all, my ancestors were Irish, not Yourupeens.  Second, have you seen the prices on Bud these days??  It sure aint cheap my friend!  And I aint seen a man drink Pabst since my friend Rodney when we were in high school (he spent the night throwing up too) nearly 20 years ago.  Third, no decent redneck drinks Jack Daniels, its too dang expensive and its too sweet.  I much prefer Jim Beam for good whiskey (Bourbon), but something cheaper is much more inline for trailer dwellin folks.  Third, I aint never been afraid of livin in a home.  So dont  you go callin me "homophobic".  Trailers aint the only places I ever lived.  I do admit to bein racist tho, I love NASCAR and Indy cars.  Tho why they ever named a type of racecar after that Harrison Ford character from the movie is beyond me.  Oh, and my shirt aint stained.  Well, not that bad.  And these aint sideburns, its part of my beard dangit.  

So you see, just aint much about your post thats right.  I want an apology.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Suave on June 19, 2005, 02:29:53 AM
Snap!

Shaden put the hammer down!
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 19, 2005, 06:50:12 AM
mmm Suave and SoA......a fairly convincing rebuttal, I will concede that there might be a small chance that you are not rednecks of the old school (standards are slipping everywhere these days!)

Now now Saurdaukar, no need to get all hot and bothered, am sure there are some people out there who are impressed with your choice of name (one has to ask was SS STORMTROOPER already taken?) and don't think you're a total prat - am sure they will come forward and tell you what fine fellow you are and how jolly impressed they are that you took your name from a Frank Herbet novel.

It's some time since a read Dune - but didn't the Emperor's Saurdaukar get their arses kicked by the Fremen Fedaykin, the desert dwellers who waged holy war under the banner of M'uadib to protect their desert lands and the riches it held that were coveted by the evil Empire?

Interesting allegory for our times don't you think?

(Translation of the phrase "Total Prat" can be found here http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=total+prat&btnG=Search&meta=)
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Suave on June 19, 2005, 07:00:26 AM
Rebuttal ? Something must've been lost in the translation.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 19, 2005, 08:22:08 AM
the fact that we even have a tea thread is proof of how far into the world of homesexuality this board has sunk..

and... shaden defining... well... anything American..  it just keeps getting better and better.

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 19, 2005, 11:59:44 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden

Now now Saurdaukar, no need to get all hot and bothered, am sure there are some people out there who are impressed with your choice of name (one has to ask was SS STORMTROOPER already taken?) and don't think you're a total prat - am sure they will come forward and tell you what fine fellow you are and how jolly impressed they are that you took your name from a Frank Herbet novel.

It's some time since a read Dune - but didn't the Emperor's Saurdaukar get their arses kicked by the Fremen Fedaykin, the desert dwellers who waged holy war under the banner of M'uadib to protect their desert lands and the riches it held that were coveted by the evil Empire?

Interesting allegory for our times don't you think?

(Translation of the phrase "Total Prat" can be found here http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=total+prat&btnG=Search&meta=)


Your trolling ability is slipping, Boy Wonder.

Im hardly hot and bothered.  You must understand that, in the States, the phrase means something you probably arent aware of, which would explain your use of it.  

You called me horney, you see.  Although I find your thick skulled posting style slightly arousing, your desire to be impregnated, wear pink shirts and call people "prats" is turning me off.  

Now... my young Padawan, If you care to explain to me how anything in this thread is bigotted or "redneck-ish" Im more than willing to listen.  It does not appear, however, that you are able to do so.

Substance next time, Mr. Angst, substance... or it gets the hose.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 19, 2005, 12:42:23 PM
If you feel a need to read homo eroticism into everything people say you really should seek some help about the issues you are obviously refusing to face up to - secondly only a total and complete prat resorts to quotes from Star Wars whilst....I was going to use "discussion" but rant would be more like it....try not to froth at the mouth, it's the internet you don't matter to me or to anyone else, I (hopefully) don't matter to you - get a grip.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 19, 2005, 12:43:55 PM
Quote
Originally posted by lazs2
the fact that we even have a tea thread is proof of how far into the world of homesexuality this board has sunk..

and... shaden defining... well... anything American..  it just keeps getting better and better.

lazs


Hey..i did my bit to try drag coffee into the whole thing but I got shouted at a by a tea nazi.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Saurdaukar on June 19, 2005, 01:39:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
If you feel a need to read homo eroticism into everything people say you really should seek some help about the issues you are obviously refusing to face up to - secondly only a total and complete prat resorts to quotes from Star Wars whilst....I was going to use "discussion" but rant would be more like it....try not to froth at the mouth, it's the internet you don't matter to me or to anyone else, I (hopefully) don't matter to you - get a grip.


My, my, my.  

Lets recap your posts, my son.

1.)  Youre a bigot.
2.)  Youre a redneck.
3.)  Youre a Nazi.
4.)  Youre a homosexual.

That about sum up your "argument?"

Next, I suppose youll tell me (instead of actually answering my question, mind you) that youre "done with this" in some fashion?  This, of course, based upon the precursor comment "its the internet and doesnt matter."  Paraphrasing, of course.

Youre a poodle of your own delusions.  Now can you answer my question or will you continue to claw away from the corner youve put yourself in?
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Schaden on June 19, 2005, 02:38:46 PM
lol "son" is that supposed to be some sort of insult? It's difficult to take someone seriously with a name like yours - like being insulted by a 15 year old or a McDonalds worker- I mean geesh what's to be upset about.

Since you're struggling the the course of the discussion - I'll reiterate and try to answer your questions, I hope you'll answer the ones I've posed as well

1. I never called you a bigot - before you jumped in I merely used "redneck bigot" to describe posters who act in  a redneck bigoted way - as described by wikpedia - which I posted for your edification. However having got to know you a little better, such a joy btw, over the last couple of posts I would certainly say you're a bigot and you do have some, if not all those characteristics of a redneck

2. Answered in 1. above.

3. Nope never called you a Nazi - I was referring to Ramzey in another post and was hoping that the description "Tea Nazi" striking a chord in popular culture from the sitcom Seinfeld's "Soup Nazi" would be taken - hopefully a normal person, which I'm sure Ramzey is would take this in jest - if not however I do apologise to Ramzey in advance.

I would however add the Saurdakar would have been the Nazi Troopers of their age - I seemed to have missed your explanation of your choice of that epithet as your online persona - why was it so attractive to you again?

4. You're a homosexual - nope didn't claim you were, however since you feel an obvious fascination/fear of homosexuals - ie it's your choice of insult which you choose throw out I have to wonder why this is and whether or not your obvious homophobia
is linked to a need to "prove" your own masculinity - the "I hate queers and therefore I couldn't possibly be one" thing - again normal people take it for granted that they are not homosexual and don't feel a need to prove that they are not. Homophobia is often linked to questions of sexuality - if you are or not big deal who cares......

Now I've answered your questions, please take the time to answer mine - ie Why did you call yourself Saurdakar and did you actually read Dune - specially the bit about how Fremen where considered to be superior warriors? Lol such irony, the supermen being killed off and beaten by the towel heads ( to use current sterotypes)

Hope this is not all too much for your blood pressure btw, I'm in my forties so if you can comfortably call me "son" and try to show a mentor pupil relationship with you Star Wars reference you must be a geriatric - take care old timer, look forward to hearing your answers!!
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 19, 2005, 07:22:20 PM
I think this thread has wandered a bit!

Lazs exactly why is tea gay? :confused:
Title: Real Men???
Post by: deSelys on June 19, 2005, 07:55:27 PM
It's all Hollywood's fault: without the Governator's movie I've forgotten the name of, french wanna-be-mother men would never have thought about this!
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 19, 2005, 07:57:11 PM
tea.. is not gay in and of itself... drinking it is another matter.

Iced tea is permissable unless you actually care what brand it is.

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Holden McGroin on June 19, 2005, 08:35:13 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Schaden
..is linked to a need to "prove" your own masculinity - the "I hate queers and therefore I couldn't possibly be one" thing - again normal people take it for granted that they are not homosexual and don't feel a need to prove that they are not. Homophobia is often linked to questions of sexuality - if you are or not big deal who cares......


Normal people?  In this day and age of tolerance you say, "normal people take it for granted that they are not homosexual"?

Freudian slip?
Title: Real Men???
Post by: john9001 on June 19, 2005, 08:38:20 PM
"dune" is fiction and is typical of the "righteous underdog defeating the superior bad guys" type of story that has been done in thousands of storys.

i think your trying to make the USA the bad guy in iraq is cute, but it's been done also, think of something new.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: rpm on June 19, 2005, 08:57:17 PM
That's why I'm casting my vote for the next Governor of the great state of Texas!
(http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/07-02/NHP_12_Kinky.JPG)
(http://www.whiterose.org/michael/blog/archives/KF100_lg1.jpg)
Title: Real Men???
Post by: SkyTex on June 20, 2005, 01:58:11 AM
Quote
The redneck stereotype:

Today, a redneck is a stereotypical southern United States socially conservative, rural, working class white person with northern European ancestry. The stereotypical redneck is a male, has a beer belly, consumes cheap American beer such as Budweiser or Miller by the case (Pabst Blue Ribbon in more traditional settings) as well as Jack Daniel's, and holds deeply conservative political views. Stereotypically they are homophobic, racist and distrustful of "city slickers". The stereotypical redneck also lives in a trailer, drives a large pickup truck with a Confederate Navy Jack flag decal and a gun rack in the rear window, has a stained sleeveless t-shirt, a trucker hat or baseball cap with long sideburns. Their favorite activities include hunting, professional wrestling, NASCAR, monster truck rallies, and car engine repair. Country and Southern Rock bands such as Lynyrd Skynyrd and other classic rock groups from the 1970s are their preferred genre of music


Break down of why your wrong.

1. No beer belly here
2. Budweiser ain't cheap.
3. Jack Daniel's costs more than home made so we prefer to make our own.
4. We're not scared of homosexuals. Hell we're not scared of anything so "homophobic" is not the right word.
5. We're only racist when the other race makes us mad. That can be any race.
6. City Slickers can't be trusted, they are evil. your right on that.
7. I live in a trailer yes, but it's a damn nice one too. double wide and even got a fire place.
8. My pickup ain't that big yet. I gotta work on it more.
9. Don't mess with a man's hat boy... you might get shot.
10. The south will rise again!
11. It's not just a gun rack. You might want to watch what is in the gun rack a little more closely.
12.My hat is sexy
13. I ain't got no sideburns, I do know what a razor is.
14. Hunting, Wrastlin, Monster Trucks, workin on cars, tractor pulls, and rodeo's are the best thing ever. Who needs a computer and AH if this went on 24/7.
15. We prefer hank, george, and willy over lynard skynard.

And Finally, #16.

NASCAR rules, your all freaks who think otherwise. #8 is the man! WOOO GO DALE!
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 20, 2005, 04:36:44 AM
:lol "Iced Tea" now that is a very nice drink for a lady!

;) :lol

Hot sweet with milk and in a chipped mug with a bacon and egg sarnie to eat ! Proper tea.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Spooky on June 20, 2005, 07:23:10 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Meatwad
Its the french, their used to being treated like girly men wusses. Look when germans came to france during WW2, french laid down faster then a $5 prostitute.


Here we go again, oh well...

Casualty estimates vary in the Battle of France. Approximately 27,074 Germans were killed and 111,034 were wounded, with a further 18,384 missing for total German casualties of 156,000 men.

French casualties were 90,000 killed, 200,000 wounded.

this does not includes hundreds of civilian refugees strafed on the roads...

So shove your bad stand up comedy comments, and respect people who fought and died.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 20, 2005, 08:21:06 AM
iced tea is what you drink in a mexican resteraunt if you don't drink beer..

"hot sweet with milk" is the manly way to drink that poison?   I don't think I could even bring myself to say that in public.   course... I can't figure out how grown males can order those conncoctions at starbucks...  

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Suave on June 20, 2005, 08:52:29 AM
lazs is gay
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 20, 2005, 09:05:34 AM
I don't rule out the possibility but so far... it holds no appeal..  If I did change tho I would be a really great homo.   I would add a whole new meaning to "fear of homosexuals".

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Suave on June 20, 2005, 09:23:04 AM
You'd fit right in with misogynist gay biker types. Do you own chaps ?
Title: Real Men???
Post by: DiabloTX on June 20, 2005, 10:10:22 AM
"I hate Illinois Nazi's."


(http://ww7.tiki.ne.jp/~canta/bb/jake.jpg)
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 20, 2005, 02:20:52 PM
Nope... no chaps..  they look too gay.

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: GtoRA2 on June 20, 2005, 04:12:34 PM
With people like shaden around this board is doomed.


The gene pool as well.
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 20, 2005, 07:16:38 PM
The OC Is back! :rofl

Up pops another French bashing artical ( is it the fashion in the US?) and then we wander from how useless/not useless they are as a military nation, How soft their men are, then we get onto rednecks and bigots, Tea!!! and its manliness / non manliness, then some wierd discussion based on trading insults over the merit of calling yourself some geeky starwars name or something and here we are back at the stage where things degenerate ionto thinly veiled personal attack! Its priceless and vintage OC :rofl :rofl

Anyone trying to moderate this has my deepest sympathy.:cool:
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Wolf14 on June 20, 2005, 08:00:49 PM
Quote
Originally posted by rpm
That's why I'm casting my vote for the next Governor of the great state of Texas!
(http://www.dallasnews.com/img/photo/07-02/NHP_12_Kinky.JPG)
(http://www.whiterose.org/michael/blog/archives/KF100_lg1.jpg)


Kinky rules
Title: Real Men???
Post by: lazs2 on June 21, 2005, 08:18:38 AM
did skyprancer call someone a geek?   Seems hurtful to me.

lazs
Title: Real Men???
Post by: Skydancer on June 21, 2005, 02:44:43 PM
Jees are you getting all sensitive on me Lazs?

:rofl