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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Steve on June 17, 2005, 10:28:30 PM
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http://www.wimp.com/ladytasered/
:rofl
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:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
You made my year with that clip
Tapakeg
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ROFL!#!#!#!# SHe was tough...till the taser!!!! MUHAHAHAHA:rofl :lol :aok
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it never ceases to amaze me. I know the media eats this stuff up because right or wrong it stirs contraversy and debate.....but damn that was funny. I saw that on the news just not in that good of quality and no sound so it made the officers look bad.
Of course she didn't do anything wrong. Nope not a thing if you don't count:
Driving under a suspended liscense. (edit)
No seat belt
54 in a 35
tail light out
broken wind shield
resisting arrest
assaulting a police officer (personally I didn't see her do this but I didn't feel like watching it a second time to confirm it.
yup total set up :lol
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And above all, when a man with a tazer/gun tells you to get out of your vehicle.... get out:D
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Cops: "....its over and done with. we have been tazed before and we know its not that bad so put your shoes back on"
LAdy Moaning:"....I dont care what you say. I have never been tazed before"
lololol pricelss
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
it never ceases to amaze me. I know the media eats this stuff up because right or wrong it stirs contraversy and debate.....but damn that was funny. I saw that on the news just not in that good of quality and no sound so it made the officers look bad.
Of course she didn't do anything wrong. Nope not a thing if you don't count:
No seat belt
54 in a 35
tail light out
broken wind shield
resisting arrest
assaulting a police officer (personally I didn't see her do this but I didn't feel like watching it a second time to confirm it.
yup total set up :lol
You forgot the driving with a suspended license :)
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My gawd that was funny.
My brother has told me stories about tasing people... LOL.
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Originally posted by Gunslinger
it never ceases to amaze me. I know the media eats this stuff up because right or wrong it stirs contraversy and debate.....but damn that was funny. I saw that on the news just not in that good of quality and no sound so it made the officers look bad.
Of course she didn't do anything wrong. Nope not a thing if you don't count:
No seat belt
54 in a 35
tail light out
broken wind shield
resisting arrest
assaulting a police officer (personally I didn't see her do this but I didn't feel like watching it a second time to confirm it.
yup total set up :lol
You forgot driving on a suspended license (3rd time). I heard the officer's chief on The Russ Martin Show the other day. The officer that tazed her just happens to be the tazer trainer for the department and gave her more warnings than was required. He really did everything he could before he zapped the biatch. He will not to media interviews because he has recieved multiple death threats. I really feel sorry for the guy, but gotta give him one of these.:aok
The sad thing is she plea bargined and never went to jail for the assault.
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Typical
Another perpetrator of DWB.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Typical
Another perpetrator of DWB.
Are you saying she was picked on because she is black?
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I'm saying she might have been treated differently if she were white. I'm saying the cops might have told her the reason she was being asked to step out of the car if she were white. I'm saying that they might have been more hesitant to tase if she were white. I'm saying that her reaction to the stop might have been based on her historical issues with the cops.
I also think she acted like a dimwit.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm saying she might have been treated differently if she were white. I'm saying the cops might have told her the reason she was being asked to step out of the car if she were white. I'm saying that they might have been more hesitant to tase if she were white. I'm saying that her reaction to the stop might have been based on her historical issues with the cops.
all of that is pure conjecture. The fact is that she was a dimwit and that's probably why she got the treatment she received. I see no reason other than her extreme stupidity.
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thanks for the head up on the suspension thing guys I don't know how I could have forgoten.
Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm saying she might have been treated differently if she were white. I'm saying the cops might have told her the reason she was being asked to step out of the car if she were white. I'm saying that they might have been more hesitant to tase if she were white. I'm saying that her reaction to the stop might have been based on her historical issues with the cops.
I also think she acted like a dimwit.
cry me a river, she might have been treated just fine if she would have cooperated and/or her liscense wasn't suspended.
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you see.... I said "might" in almost every sentence. That means it is conjecture. Thanks for pointing that out though.
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I don't think it was anything more than her failing to obey an officers command (not request) to get out of the vehicle. I'm a white guy and he woulda zapped my arse if I did the same thing.
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Sorry MT, it ain't just minorities here. I have been pulled over for a suspended. State failed to inform me, however, and I was cleared of the charge.
They won't give you a why until they have you out of the car in cuffs.
I thought that I should be told what I was accused of before I was in cuffs, but apparently its the "arrest them before you get an explanation" US now.
-SW
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Originally posted by midnight Target
you see.... I said "might" in almost every sentence. That means it is conjecture. Thanks for pointing that out though.
So, I can add my conjecture and be just as relevent I guess.
The lady might have been armed and dangerous. She might have been on drugs and had aids and was waiting for a chance to bite one of the cops. She might have been a vampire. She might have been an escaped murderer who just killed 5 people.
The only thing that is known is that she was being an idiot and not cooperating with the cop. If you choose to ignore the apparent facts and instead make up a bunch of "might-haves", then I guess thats up to you.
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:eek: She was a Vampire?:eek:
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LOL. :aok
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Personal attack
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Ideally you don't tell someone they're under arrest until about a half second before the cuffs hit their wrists. Keeps them from resisting.
Obviously, that requires that they're out of the vehicle before you tell them they're under arrest. A suspect is most likely to resist an officer when they realize they're under arrest. You want them out of their car to eliminate the chance of them going for a weapon.
Standard procedure. That whole "for both of our safety" thing.
And she's a wimp. I've ridden the taser train, and the best part of it is when it doesn't hurt anymore. :)
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And she's a wimp
Classic...the link is from Wimp.com
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The post-taze mooing is the same as the grape-stomping reporter's.
Traumatized for life.
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Oh wow. That's awesome. Let's see, argue with cop for pulling you over. Claim he has no right to clock you on radar. Have no belt on, have a brake light out, have a suspended license, ignore cop's orders while calling bf....oh man.
The taser was too nice. She needs a rubber mallet to the head
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Typical
Another perpetrator of DWB.
someone has watched TOO much of martin lawerence movies.
find another video (of the literally 1000's on the intardnet) of a supposed innocent black person being tazed.
show me.
i dare you.
if you happen to find anything, then show where the perpatrator commited that many crimes, and refused to follow the officers orders while sober.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Typical
Another perpetrator of DWB.
Typical unsupported racist statement.
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I thought US cops saved the tazer for zapping elderly ladies for sounding the horn. ;)
I've had roadside dealings with US cops, and it never occurred to me to withhold any documents they were asking for. And once we started actually talking about what had happened, any of their remaining hostility seemed to evaporate. They wuz like putty in mi hands! Got away with 2 out of 4, and had I known the system could have got away with a third.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
I'm saying she might have been treated differently if she were white. I'm saying the cops might have told her the reason she was being asked to step out of the car if she were white. I'm saying that they might have been more hesitant to tase if she were white. I'm saying that her reaction to the stop might have been based on her historical issues with the cops.
I also think she acted like a dimwit.
Take everything that she did/said but make it a _____(<---insert race/ethnicity of choice) woman instead and I'd bet the she'd still get tazed.
Had this woman obeyed the officer's requests in a friendly manner instead of the beligerent, combative, and insulting way she did, not only would she not have gotten tazed, she might well have gotten off with a warning instead.
Conjecture, of course.
Edit: oops, forgot the suspended license bit. Not going to get just a warning then.
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It never ceased to amaze me about the number of folks who figured the way to get out of a ticket was to be beligerant and offensive to the Officer. To threaten action, legal or otherwise, because they got pulled over.
She had ample oportunity to mitigate the results especially when looking down the business end of a taser. People just do not realize the time to argue a ticket is not on the street. It's in the court room where the arena is set for contending the situation. Arguing on the curb won't get the job done.
For a lot of folks, getting a ticket seems to be so terribly traumatic but they don't realize that they are the ones making it so. All they have to do is just relax and get on with their life not try to make a "federal case" out of it. If a ticket is the worst thing that ever happens to them they will have had a very charmed life.
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Typical
Another perpetrator of DWB.
You can see the full vid series here along with a dept. training officer's commentary.
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/content/news/video/taser_video3a.html
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mt.. no matter what her color...
those violations were bad but... the "no seatbelt"... it's time we started shooting people over that. Taser isn't enough to save lives... need to shoot some folks.
lazs
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Originally posted by SaburoS
Take everything that she did/said but make it a _____(<---insert race/ethnicity of choice) woman instead and I'd bet the she'd still get tazed.
Had this woman obeyed the officer's requests in a friendly manner instead of the beligerent, combative, and insulting way she did, not only would she not have gotten tazed, she might well have gotten off with a warning instead.
Conjecture, of course.
Edit: oops, forgot the suspended license bit. Not going to get just a warning then.
Possibly...but would it been as "funny"?...or been funny enough to cause hyperventilation?
Dunno.
Maybe it is just the liberal Euro (but not really Euro) in me, but I didn't even crack a smile. If she had been yellow, purple or white I wouldn't think it was that funny.
Seems to me the cop didn't even try to actually get her out of the car other than to say "get out". He went from saying something to puling the tazer rather quickly IMHO...but perhaps this is SOP..I don't know.
There seems to be some concern in the US now that cops are using those tazers more than they should. When I was in NM recently some guy was tazed a bunch of times and was in hospital after his heart stopped a few times and there was going to be an investigation about it.
She was really stupid though. If a cops says get out...you just get out.
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Originally posted by beet1e
I thought US cops saved the tazer for zapping elderly ladies for sounding the horn. ;)
I've had roadside dealings with US cops, and it never occurred to me to withhold any documents they were asking for. And once we started actually talking about what had happened, any of their remaining hostility seemed to evaporate. They wuz like putty in mi hands! Got away with 2 out of 4, and had I known the system could have got away with a third.
Jeebus, I agree with Beetle, I need to go take a bath! :)
Seriously, once I grew up and realized a snotty attitude wasn't getting me anywhere, I never got cited for a traffic violation again. The few times I've been pulled over in the last 20 years or so I've always been guilty of something or other (rolling through a stop sign at a time of day the sidewalks are rolled up, speeding on a lonely rural highway, etc) and have always simply admitted it to the cop and apologized. That approach seems to prompt them to say "OK, please watch it in future" and wave me on without a writeup.
culero
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Originally posted by beet1e
I thought US cops saved the tazer for zapping elderly ladies for sounding the horn. ;)
I've had roadside dealings with US cops, and it never occurred to me to withhold any documents they were asking for. And once we started actually talking about what had happened, any of their remaining hostility seemed to evaporate. They wuz like putty in mi hands! Got away with 2 out of 4, and had I known the system could have got away with a third.
No kidding. The last time I got stopped, I had turned left from a right-turn only lane. Yeah, I knew it when I did it. Said as much to the cop, but in my defense, I made certain there were no other cars around and that I could do it safely. He let me go.
Of course, I didn't fail the "attitude test" as miserably as this woman. :)
Oh... and I should add. It wasn't PD that pulled me over. It was a Sheriff. Yeah, I know they don't typically do traffic stops in this state, but I pulled this little stunt damn near in front of their station. ;)
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Typical
Another perpetrator of DWB.
Not to hijack, but attitudes like this suck.
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Originally posted by Goth
Not to hijack, but attitudes like this suck.
Well... it was Florida after all.
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Well, I disagree there's any evidence here of a racist attitude on the part of the cops.
I would say that the cop handling this incident was woefully inadequate in terms of his people skills and confrontation management. He wasn't hostile (hence why I deny racism as a factor) but he was very brusque, and IMO unneccessarily so.
Don't misunderstand, this isn't a defense of this woman's actions. But, when you are dealing with people and your aim is to manage them, its usually more productive to be over the top in terms of courtesy. Taking a moment to understand their lack of understanding and explain things to them is important.
This cop was great at some points (for instance, not allowing her remarks to upset him or distract him into useless discussion) but I believe if he'd invested a little in conversation he wouldn't have had to forcibly remove her from the vehicle.
culero
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On the other hand, if she had done as she was directed, he may have been more inclined to talk.
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Originally posted by Sandman
On the other hand, if she had done as she was directed, he may have been more inclined to talk.
Like I said, I wasn't defending her actions. She was out of line, no doubt.
Think of it like this. You are a manager dealing with a disgruntled employee or contractor (something I do a lot on the job, BTW). Or you are a company representative dealing with a disgruntled customer (also something I do a lot on the job).
Are you going to catch more flies with honey or vinegar?
What is more productive, having to impose your will and leaving the person you're dealing with unhappy, or convincing them that they should cooperate?
I know its impossible to prove, but if we had the chance I'd cover any bet you wanted to make that I could have talked that lady out of that car and had her under arrest peacefully, and in very little more time (if more at all) than this cop expended.
A little "yes ma'am" and "please allow me to explain" etc etc sprinkled in with "just the facts" goes a long way toward de-fusing hostile attitudes.
culero
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I'd say the woman set the tone from the start... asking for his name, ID#, telling him that he couldn't clock a car, etc. The moment she started telling him about the law, she was doomed.
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Originally posted by Sandman
I'd say the woman set the tone from the start... asking for his name, ID#, telling him that he couldn't clock a car, etc. The moment she started telling him about the law, she was doomed.
I agree its pretty stupid to act that way if a cop stops you.
But who's supposed to be the professional in this scenario? Should a cop who wants to be the most effective peace officer possible allow a hostile attitude to cause him to be less effective in his people management skills?
In my experience, when confronted by a hostile attitude on the part of a person I need to manage, its far more effective and productive to start laying the courtesies on, perhaps even a bit more than normal. Every time I've allowed a person's attitude to cause me to become impatient, the results I've achieved have been less satisfactory than I desired. I've learned from that.
Would you agree that even though this woman was in the wrong, it still would have been preferable for the cop to have been able to secure her peaceful cooperation? That's where I'm coming from here, and her attitude is really irrelevant in that sense.
culero
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Boy she got out of the car fast. Sounded like a wolf eating a dozen owls.
P.S. You can not get AIDs from someone biting you unless their gums are bleeding or another part of their mouth, or if you left them hang on for awhile and pump gallons of saliva into your arm.
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Working with the public for better than 26 years, some people just CANNOT be reasoned with, lets face the facts ..anyone that drives without a liscense, no belt, speeds with officer there, resists arrest, takes a swipe at an officer , starts the whole thing with basically i'm gonna tell on you officer and sue you, is just a low life POS. Only thing the officer did wrong was not setting the tazer barbs into her forhead and quite possible the electo shock treatment might have corrected her stupidity and make her a real member of society instead of just another maggot.
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Hey MT, there was a guy that had a dream that his children would be judged by the content of thier character and not the colour of thier skin. I am curious as to why you did the exact opposite in this case.
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Whats his option, wrestle with her?
seemed like a very professional officer to me.
Days I glad I canceled out of the Mounties.
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It looks like MT went with the race card one too many times ala The Boy Who Cried Wolf.
I think the cops should have shot her and then planted a pistol on her to make it legit.
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Holy voltage batman!
I did say she was acting "like a dimwit".
Did she deserve to get tased? Yes.
Would the cop have been as quick on the trigger if she were a white woman? I don't think so.
Sue me .
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mt... so long as you think in such a biggoted way we will never wipe out racism.
did she deserve it? that's all you need to think about... the rest was pure biggotry and furthering of biggotry.
I coulda held the door open for a black lady at the gas station today but because of you.... I didn't.
lazs
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She got what she deserved, but wouldn't have gotten what she deserved so soon had she been white? :confused:
Did you listen to the training officer interview/commentary?
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Originally posted by Curval
Seems to me the cop didn't even try to actually get her out of the car other than to say "get out". He went from saying something to puling the tazer rather quickly IMHO...but perhaps this is SOP..I don't know.
And when he pulled out that tazer, that's when you shut your mouth and get out of the car. It's like poker, you can try to bluff, but when you know you're beat you fold. She just didn't play her cards right. Regardless of how quickly a cop pulls out a tazer and say's get out or you'll get tazed, smart thing to do is to get out, I don't care what color you are. I think the phone call could have made the situation worse too, making him take more drastic actions. He probably wanted to avoid getting her friends/family down there if they were close by, that coulda got messy.
So lesson of the day:
When a cop tells you to get out or you'll get tazed, get out:p
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I coulda held the door open for a black lady at the gas station today but because of you.... I didn't.
Bingo!
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I thibk she really had it coming and she got what she deserved, but I didn't think it was funny watching somebody suffer.
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I got a really good question. Not just for MT but for everybody.
Had a black man (not a cop) walked up to her car and pulled a gun (or tazer) and told her to get out, do you think she would have had as much of an attitude?
Or deep in her heart is she the real racist?
I ask that because there always seems to be a Quanel X or Jessie Jackson to point out just what exactly I meant when I said something and just how racist it is. It's funny that they know what I really mean. But to me it just points out THEIR racist feelings because whatever I say, it must racist to me.
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Curval - I felt the same. I did not crack a smile while watching that video. I didn't find it funny, perhaps a little sad that such measures have become routine....
...but what I do find funny is that when a bus driver loses it with some obnoxious, arrogant kids who won't sit where they're told, and manhandles one of them after being called a f**ker, there's public outcry and he gets busted with "misdemeanor battery". But when a woman refuses to get out of her car and is subjected to the much more traumatic and much less pleasant experience of being tazered, it's regarded as "normal procedure". Now that's funny! :lol
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Originally posted by Curval
Maybe it is just the liberal Euro (but not really Euro) in me, but I didn't even crack a smile. If she had been yellow, purple or white I wouldn't think it was that funny.
I'm with Curval. I kept waiting for something funny to happen. Instead some dumb lady went and got her dumb self tazered. And she made horrible noises that I wouldn't want to hear an anmial make. Did she earn herself that zapping? Sure. Is it funny that she got it? Not to me.
Perhaps I need to be recalibrated.
-Sik
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ditto.
Watching someone hurt isnt funny.
Even if they are in desperate need of attitude adjustment, missed out entirely on the "actions have consequences" part of childhood, and function on the level of a 6th grade clique leader.
Deserved? Definately.
Funny? No.
And I am neither liberal or european.
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Originally posted by Drunky
Or deep in her heart is she the real racist?
I just watched it again and she can be heard saying something that sounds like "white police aint nothin but racists", then the cop says in exasperation "I know" She says "ya'll are some work"
She then says "ya'll pulled over my brother and arrested him for no reason"
Sounded to me like she is being racist.
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Watching someone hurt isnt funny.
The irony of her tough talk, then listening to her moan like a 2 year old who had just got a serious whipping is deliciously funny to me. I love the irony. If some of you want to get caught up in imagined social issues of the video that's fine, but you have missed an opportunity at a good chuckle.
If you over stuffed, holier-than-thou wannabes want to rue that she got "hurt" feel free. I choose to find the humor in it, life is much more enjoyable that way.
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Originally posted by Steve
The irony of her tough talk, then listening to her moan like a 2 year old who had just got a serious whipping is deliciously funny to me. I love the irony. If some of you want to get caught up in imagined social issues of the video that's fine, but you have missed an opportunity at a good chuckle.
If you over stuffed, holier-than-thou wannabes want to rue that she got "hurt" feel free. I choose to find the humor in it, life is much more enjoyable that way.
Ditto :aok
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I can see what MT is saying. I honestly cant see a cop doing this to a rich yuppie in a Mercedes. Although, I doubt a rich yuppie in a Mercedes would have a suspended license in the first place?
They should have just shot her and sprinkled some crack on her. :aok
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Is it just me or does Officer McNevin sound like one of the storm troopers on Troops (http://www.theforce.net/fanfilms/shortfilms/troops/)?
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LOL
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a bit of a technical question, how did they recorded the voices?
isnt the camera located inside the police car?
oh btw LOL, :D
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All suspects are guilty - period
LOL
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Too bad they invented the Tazer, otherwise maybe he could have just shot her and maybe saved us some welfare money. (maybe)
dago
PS: its has been determined by MT that making racist comments is okay, as long as you include a "maybe".
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I think the officers have a mic feed on their uniform?
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External microphones on the uniform and at least one on the ouitside of the car, directional.
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there is a funnier video of a white drunk guy getting tazered that I saw on some "cops" show.. the guy goes down but tries to get up about a dozen times and says "no" to every command while trying to get up and take another swing at the cop. It is funny on a bunch of levels but not big black person funny.
lazs
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someone posted that video I think lasz
I think he got tazered seven times and the idiot kept tryin to get up after four or five of them.
After the last one, when the cops told him to put his hands behind his back he says, "I can't move. I can't move."
Now that's pretty funny also.
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yep that's the one... funny as it was tho... imagine if the guy wasn't white.
lazs
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If he wasnt white, you have to throw in MTs "maybe". Specially if the cop is white.
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Originally posted by lazs2
imagine if the guy wasn't white.
lazs
WAHHHHHHHHHH evereyones a racist!!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh THEIR OUT TO GET US!!!!!!
Get over your self, No one cares how you look every culture has been a slave once. Whites were slaves in egyptian times. Blacks were slaves what 40 years ago? Get over it. Please stop saying stupid crap like this. Thank you.
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Originally posted by Sp4de
WAHHHHHHHHHH evereyones a racist!!!! WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHh THEIR OUT TO GET US!!!!!!
Get over your self, No one cares how you look every culture has been a slave once. Whites were slaves in egyptian times. Blacks were slaves what 40 years ago? Get over it. Please stop saying stupid crap like this. Thank you.
:rolleyes:
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hey is Reno 911 out on DVD yet?