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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: AdmRose on June 21, 2005, 09:24:30 PM
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Any of you guys ever had a completely disasterous transaction on eBay? Got a feeling I got myself into one of them and I've already had one before. You'd think this service would get safer over time, but nope.
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nope, not in 150 transactions. Most prob on ebay are avoidable, what happened?
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Originally posted by Chairboy
nope, not in 150 transactions. Most prob on ebay are avoidable, what happened?
Bought from a new seller (0 feedback). Haven't heard a single thing from them since the auction ended on the 17th. Tried emailing him and got no reply and he had no other items listed. Maybe I'm just being paranoid but it seems like a problem waiting to happen.
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I wouldn't worry about it yet. Just read up on the rules and be ready to act when you need to. I've had more than one seller be dead silent in email (no shipping confirmation, no response to inquiries, etc), but still send the item in a reasonable time frame. Some people are just retarded...I call those people eBay sellers. ;)
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I would follow the steps that ebay has to report him. how much was your loss?
Also what was his seller ID, i will see if i can check him out
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ID is gdelano_wholesale, but its only been 4 days so it could be nothing.
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Still to me id start checking into it. call me paranoid
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Bought book, emailed her the day and asked if I could upgrade to a faster shipping method. Did not hear, anything next day I paid by paypall, and email and asked for shipping info with tracking number.
Ebay seller finaly gets back to me with a rude, you wont have it yet I have not shipped it. (two days), Course thats not what I asked. SO I emaled back and said ok what is the tracking number?
She replies there is none because I shipped US mail. 7 bucks for a magazine size book and it goes US mail?
It did indeed go us mail and I got it like two weeks later. There were some emails in between were I asked nicely if she had shipped and she basicaly called me an bellybutton for bothering her.
So I waited 29 days and gave her a terrible feedback, saying I expected revenge feedback from her.
She did not give me bad feedback but lied through her teeth in her little rebuttal comment.
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You didn't even send money, it's only been four days... and this is already a NIGHTMARE?
Wow, if you were a girl, I bet you'd be seriously high maintenance.
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Everything I sell on ebay (well 99% of items) I ship through USPS, but also I include delivery confrimation (their version of a tracking number). Havent had one problem yet except for morons who cannot read.
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Originally posted by Chairboy
You didn't even send money, it's only been four days... and this is already a NIGHTMARE?
Wow, if you were a girl, I bet you'd be seriously high maintenance.
I DID send money, $65 to be exact.
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Question the first: Why freakout at 4 days?
Question the second: The guy has 0 feedback, you presumably did your risk assessment before bidding, right?
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4 days is too soon to panic.
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Because with most (at least that I have dealt with) sellers you'll get an email back when you email them asking the status of your item. I've already done that and got nothing in reply. Generally I don't worry about 0 feedback unless it is caused by negative feedback or there was a recent ID change. His is a new account. The only other problem I ever had on eBay was with a seller who had 1100 positive feedback and was a power seller. Goes to show ya how much feedback can mean sometimes.
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AdmRose,
I've only ever had two problems with Ebay transactions.
The first was with a buyer who thought that the brand name of a teapot I was selling "Victoriaware" indicated that it was a Victorian teapot (even though I put "almost new - hardly ever used" in the ad and it sold for under $30) and when she received the teapot she posted snitty feedback saying essentially "This is not the like new condition 100 year old teapot I thought I scored for peanuts." I've often thought ebay needs to add "rolleyes" as a response option after that.
The second was a DVD player I bought in "non-working, as-is" condition in order to get parts for my own DVD player of the same brand. When I received it, the "DVD player" turned out to be "non-working" because it was just the case and the power supply. Well, yup, that's not gonna play a DVD, you betcha.
Aside from that, I've had a generally good experience with Ebay, in fact, much better than many other retail experiences.
- SEAGOON
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LOL...some of those sellers are sneaky aren't they Seagoon. AdmRose what did you buy if you dont mind me asking.
I had a particular problem in which I bought an item but due to an emergency did not have the money at the time to pay for it, but was still willing to buy it. I emailed the seller and explained my case and she replied back, "Ok thats fine send the money soon please". No sooner than an hour later, I received an Unpaid item strike. Now forgive me if I'm being ignorant, but I'm pretty sure it's up to the seller to announce whether an arrangement has been made or if the item actually went unpaid. I guess "soon" meant within 15 minutes. :rolleyes:
Did I dispute the claim? You bet.
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I wouldn't start to freak out at 4 days. I'd also be more carefull on who I bought from. The only time I bought from a new seller was on an item that was local. I paid in person at the time I picked it up. It was a refridgerator and I've had no problems at all with it.
I have had problems with ebay sellers and paypal. My biggest complaint is paypal offers little chance of recovering your money if you get burned.
Research your seller is the best advice I can give. Look at it this way, would you cash a check from a guy that is the 1st check on a brand new account?
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No problems here, except that in my initial buying frenzy, I bought a pig-in-a-poke more than once! The worst one was a DVD about the Northwestern Railway - turned out to be a home video of a retired driver being interviewed - boring as hell! I also bought a flower vase - it was OK, but the seller had not cleaned it prior to despatch and it still had dirt inside it.
When selling, I ask for paypal or cash on collection. No cheques because they're a PITA. Just sold an old dishwasher, and a pile of unused housebricks - cash on collection.Originally posted by rpm
I have had problems with ebay sellers and paypal. My biggest complaint is paypal offers little chance of recovering your money if you get burned.
Bad luck, rpm. My one BAD transaction was the purchase of a pair of matching tables. Total payment including P&P was £92 - about $168, so not a small amount. Heard nothing after 2 weeks, so emailed seller. Got a terse reply saying that had I read the small print, I would see that it was 28 days delivery. OK then, the 28 days came and went, still no tables. I waited another 10 days. Another email - no reply. I initiated a complaint via the normal eBay procedure. Because I'd paid by paypal, I was routed to my account on the paypal site. Entered the details and got an automated response saying that they would email the seller. Because the seller did not reply to paypal's email within the 10 days allowed, paypal decided the case in my favour. £92 was transferred from the seller's paypal account back into mine. I gave him negative feedback, and noticed in other feedback that this wasn't the first time he'd pulled this stunt. So like rpm says - always check seller's feedback.
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I use Ebay like the local classifieds. If I'm spending big bucks I only buy from people who put a phone number in the ad. Who live close enough I can pay em a visit if it goes wrong. And I can go see the thing I'm buying if I have to.
For smaller ammounts I trust to luck and the trad ebay checks etc.
I bought a vintage motorbike from a guy in Suffolk over Ebay no problems. I went and had a look at it in the flesh. Then went home and entered the bidding.
If I'm spending big bucks I wouldn't trust Ebay but then I'm a bit of a luddite.
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Originally posted by RightF00T
LOL...some of those sellers are sneaky aren't they Seagoon. AdmRose what did you buy if you dont mind me asking.
A gig of RAM for the computer.
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Found out tonight that seller cancelled his account and is up to -4 feedback. Went ahead and filed PayPal claim. Something doesn't seem right though:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=gdelano_wholesale&item=6777946598&iid=6777946598&frm=1883&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:SFS
This seem suspitious to anyone else?
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looks like you got taken by a scammer
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Chances are Ebay closed his account, file a complaint with Ebay also.
Funny...out of 160+ transactions i've had, the only one that gave me a problem is some company that sold computer memory located in South Carolina never delivered. Only cost me 20.00, but I never got a refund from paypal. After one year it is still pending.
Well, another seller of computer memory never delievered, but I managed to get a paypal refund.
Best deal I got was I low bidded on two pc3200 512mb Nanya DDr memory sticks, the winning bidder backed out, and the seller made me a second chance offer and I picked up both sticks with shipping for 45.00 us.
Just a rule of thumb (for me), don't buy from sellers with zero feedback. And never send money until after the seller has responded.
I just bought an electric motor for my rc helicopter from a guy with 1200+ feedbacks and 99.8% rating, he said it was mistakenly listed and he had it sent directly from China to my house...It took almost 40 days, but I didn't even think twice about it because he kept in constant contact...
Well, enough rambling...I enjoy using ebay...It's great for those hard to find things.
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Jesus guys, are you trying to scare the **** out of me?
I just bought my second item off of ebay.
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Originally posted by Seagoon
The second was a DVD player I bought in "non-working, as-is" condition in order to get parts for my own DVD player of the same brand. When I received it, the "DVD player" turned out to be "non-working" because it was just the case and the power supply. Well, yup, that's not gonna play a DVD, you betcha.
A classic! :D
10 years ago our computer gang wanted to place a newspaper ad saying something like "386/40/4Mb/120Mb/mid-tower/3.5-5.25/14"/VGA, used, out of order".
We had all the stuff to make it real: rusty AT case, cracked 386 motherboard, sclerotic RAM, HDD knoking it's head against the wall, burnt-down VGA card and a blind 14" VGA display. Plus a KBD with 50 keys out of 101 and a ball-less mouse. No kidding: used and out of order! Any smart-ass who thought he'll buy a system that doesn't boot because of wrong CMOS setup value could get a surprise :D
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Originally posted by JB66
Chances are Ebay closed his account, file a complaint with Ebay also.
Filed the PayPal claim immeadiately, have to wait 10 days after auction close to file one with eBay. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
Jesus guys, are you trying to scare the **** out of me?
I just bought my second item off of ebay.
No, but if being scared makes you that much more cautious before shelling out your hard earned cash based almost entirely (most of the time) on blind faith - so be it. I've had 65 or so transactions and two (this one included) in the last 7 months have gone sour. Got my money back for the first and hopefully I will here too.
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Originally posted by JB66
I just bought an electric motor for my rc helicopter from a guy with 1200+ feedbacks and 99.8% rating, he said it was mistakenly listed and he had it sent directly from China to my house...It took almost 40 days, but I didn't even think twice about it because he kept in constant contact...
Well, enough rambling...I enjoy using ebay...It's great for those hard to find things.
Dude...that guy rocks! :eek:
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AdmRose
I see all the negative feedback concerning your seller is with regard to computer memory chips. Hmmm - I'm in the process of trying to buy a 1GB SD memory card for my Casio Exilim camera. I made a Buy-it-Now bid on something suitable - Far East, but promises 10 day delivery and about half the retail price. When I came to pay for it, Paypal said the recipient could no longer receive funds - transaction cancelled. Emailed the seller - no reply after almost 24 hours. Very suspicious, given that so many scams involve memory of one sort or another. I also notice that many of these camera memory sellers start the bidding at about £15 but want £25 postage - for a little item like a memory chip.
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Beet...I bought a nice SD card for a decent price off of eBay back in January from Digi4me (http://tinyurl.com/bxjuo). They also shipped from somewhere in Asia, but it got here in a reasonable amount of time.
The card I got was a 512MB PQI HiSpeed 60 SD card. I gambled, and got this instead of one of the Ultra cards from Sandisk, and was pleasantly suprised. I use it in my Canon SD200, and in multishot mode on highest resolution, I can hold down the snapshot button and the camera will contiuously take pictures until the memory is all used up.
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Rgr that, SOB - thanks! I'll check him out. My Exilim has a movie option with sound. I'm wanting the extra memory because of a long trip to Italy next month.
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Definitely. I thought I'd be good with 512, but my camera does 30fps vid at 640x480, and it eats the memory up in a hurry! I wish I woulda gone for the 1 GB or more.
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I personally see no problems with eBay other than how easy it is for someone to make an account, list some bogus items, take peoples' money and run with no trace and no recourse. Then they just create a new user ID and do it all again.
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Originally posted by AdmRose
I personally see no problems with eBay other than how easy it is for someone to make an account, list some bogus items, take peoples' money and run with no trace and no recourse. Then they just create a new user ID and do it all again.
When I became an eBay seller, I had to give all sorts of information like CC number, even bank details. I don't know if there was a way for them to check that my account was in good standing - kind of like a credit check.
As for fraud, that's what paypal is supposed to prevent. It worked perfectly for me. Read my post about the tables I was going to buy. ^
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Never had much problem with ebay other than i could allways get whatever it was cheaper from some other group.. Healey and Hot rod parts are cheaper from my other groups.. probly about half.. BMW motorcycle parts are cheaper from a BMW group.. about half what ebay gets.
Ebay is just a dealer locator for me.. the "buy it now" is just that dealers regular price usually.
lazs
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Late advice but as has been said here and in other topics on eBay....
Don't assume anything when considering bidding on an item. Good example was the non working DVD above.
And just walk away from items for sale by someone with less than 99.0% positive feedback or if they have none at all. A feedback rating of 98.x% and less does not cut it IMO.
And never, EVER send payment before exchanging emails with the seller.
Even then make sure you discuss packing and shipping first. Do not assume they will do a good job to keep tyhe item from being busted up or that the shipping costs will include tracking and insurance - which you will almost always want.
I've not sold anything on eBay. I don't want the headaches one can get from dealing with the masses of illiterate retards ((ref Seagoons example above) or with those who are out to scam buyers. But I have bought about 140 different items over the past couple of years and was bit just once. I lost $6.00 on an old book.
As for recourse? eBay and Paypal could careless about buyers for the most part as long as the fees from the sellers keep coming in. IMO the buyer will take it in the shorts one way or the other when it comes to having eBay or Paypal take car of an auction gone bad most of the time.
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Originally posted by Boroda
A classic! :D
10 years ago our computer gang wanted to place a newspaper ad saying something like "386/40/4Mb/120Mb/mid-tower/3.5-5.25/14"/VGA, used, out of order".
We had all the stuff to make it real: rusty AT case, cracked 386 motherboard, sclerotic RAM, HDD knoking it's head against the wall, burnt-down VGA card and a blind 14" VGA display. Plus a KBD with 50 keys out of 101 and a ball-less mouse. No kidding: used and out of order! Any smart-ass who thought he'll buy a system that doesn't boot because of wrong CMOS setup value could get a surprise :D
Note to self: NEVER buy anything from a Russian.
:aok
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Lazs - I have the very thing for you - only a penny. LOL the text - "no pink toilet paper". Click here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=27383&item=4556409588&rd=1). (private joke) ;)
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On a side note... I just got a notice from ebay saying that my account was susspended because of my unethical selling practices..
I have never sold a single thing on ebay. Don't even have a sellers account.
lazs
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Did you pay paypal with credit card/ debit card or did you deposit money in your account..
If you used the card option you have other sources availible to you to expedite your refund..
namely your credit card company... call them up tell them what happend and put a stop payment on the funds to paypal..
paypal has no choice but to refund your money..
Then paypal may bill you until the situation is resolved on their end but it beats them sitting on your money on a clear fraud case collecting interest on your money and jerking you around...
Be shure to write a certified mail letter (not email) to paypal / ebay explaining such; listing your research and fraud on the seller..
This way if ebay or paypal trys to get ignorant you have legal recourse to shove it up their arse.. as you notified them..
I have some horror stories and have been taken by ebay / paypal for some low money collectibles. yeah you get your money back but when is the question..
I would have my CC company go to bat for me.. Thats why you pay them.. (either interest on your account etc..)
DoctorYo
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I think they were just giving themselves a head start and telling you that you are unethical before you try to do anything.
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Originally posted by lasersailor184
I think they were just giving themselves a head start and telling you that you are unethical before you try to do anything.
:lol
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man i just had my first bad expirience with paypal, i paid $200+ with
paypal to the company -> ACT LABS. First it worked ok, got email
response that they got the money. But now 2 weeks later i got
a emal again, ACT LABS is sorry now they cant use paypal anymore.
To get my money back i now have to fill a buyer claim against ACT LABS
with paypal. Ive done it and waiting now what will happen...
crap, really crap.
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Yep.. Only one....
Peter Cozzens...
Supposedly a US ambassador to Mexico..
Lets just say he's an ASS..
He supposedly lost the book, didn't send my money back over paypal, made me wait 2 weeks for my money, and called my mom a ***** and a child..
The Plus side? He sent me a book that was signed that I had no ****ing intrest in..
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Did someone infer that I might not be ethical on the new more kind and sensitive BB?????
I have been called a crook and not one moderator did a thing?
bet their all socialist girly men.
" Dear eBay. com customer,
You have been indefinitely suspended from eBay because our records indicate your account was involved in activities that violate our policy governing seller non-performance.
We now need you to re-confirm your account information to us. If this is not completed till June 23, 2005, we will be forced to suspend your account Indefinitely, as it may have been used for fraudulent purposes.
We thank you for your cooperation in this manner ."
lazs (why are they saying such hurtful things about me and why doesn't someone stop them?)
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You can't sell guns on eBay.
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I stopped accepting PayPal after some deadbeat charged back an item and never returned it to me. I was one of the first PayPal users right after it came out and was totally free.
PayPal is now owned by EBay and they make a lot of money off of it and mostly the seller is taking a the risk, in my opinion. It's not worth using.
I only accept check or money order and will not ship until the payment clears my bank.
As for paying for an auction, I would never send payment until I have heard from the seller.
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Regarding Paypal...I thought if you did do a charge back to paypal, they would close (suspend) your paypal account, or something like that.
Alot of people don't like the way paypal and ebay operate, just google "paypal account locked".
I've sold on ebay also, and I had to give a valid CC number, as well as a valid email account which you had to respond to email they would send you (I think, it's been years since I set up my account).
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Lazs, you are obviously being slighted, and should respond to eBay as soon as possible to clear your good name. Be sure to give them your credit card and banking information when they ask for it, just so they know it's you, and I'm sure everything will turn out all right.
Keep your spirits up, I hope you can get through this without the inevitable mood swings and cramping. Let me know if you need some help, and I'll gladly take you for a calming stroll on Airhead's beach!
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people are allowed to make fun of me here? What purpose does that serve?
lazs
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Originally posted by JB66
Regarding Paypal...I thought if you did do a charge back to paypal, they would close (suspend) your paypal account, or something like that.
Alot of people don't like the way paypal and ebay operate, just google "paypal account locked".
I've sold on ebay also, and I had to give a valid CC number, as well as a valid email account which you had to respond to email they would send you (I think, it's been years since I set up my account).
"valid" CC is what gets me. A stolen CC and a fake email address can do a lot of damage to everyone involved on eBay.
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yep sob... I did click on the link just to see how realistic it was... It was very good... they even had a "register" section for new users.
gonna keep it and check in a few days to see if it is still up.
lazs
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Originally posted by lazs2
Did someone infer that I might not be ethical on the new more kind and sensitive BB?????
I have been called a crook and not one moderator did a thing?
bet their all socialist girly men.
" Dear eBay. com customer,
You have been indefinitely suspended from eBay because our records indicate your account was involved in activities that violate our policy governing seller non-performance.
We now need you to re-confirm your account information to us. If this is not completed till June 23, 2005, we will be forced to suspend your account Indefinitely, as it may have been used for fraudulent purposes.
We thank you for your cooperation in this manner ."
lazs (why are they saying such hurtful things about me and why doesn't someone stop them?)
This is called a phishing attack that is designed to make you panic and enter your info in the non ebay site without realising that its a scam. I hope you did not fall for it.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep sob... I did click on the link just to see how realistic it was... It was very good... they even had a "register" section for new users.
gonna keep it and check in a few days to see if it is still up.
lazs
I got one of those a few weeks back too. Almost fell for it till I remembered that PayPal (or any major site that has your CC on file, for that matter) never sends out emails asking for your information.
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It's a bad idea to even click on it. Most of the phishing attacks have a unique identifier in the URL, so by clicking on it, they know that your email address has someone who might click on an advertisement. Your account is then sold as a 'premium' listing to other spammers.
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Originally posted by lazs2
yep sob... I did click on the link just to see how realistic it was... It was very good... they even had a "register" section for new users.
gonna keep it and check in a few days to see if it is still up.
lazs
lazs ... I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Can you still log on to your e-bay account ? If you can ... then that is a bone-fide hoax/scam.
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I always watch what I buy on there. One thing I always check is the shipping. I seen one of them wireless networking cards for a laptop. It was at $3, but the shipping was $19. I emailed him and asked why something that would only cost $3.85 for a little card be charged $20 shipping. I got some response that he charged $10 to wait in line at the post office plus other fees like taking the time to email me and for generally using his time to sell me the item.
needless to say I didnt bid on it. Some sellers are bad at that, gets them a lot of bad feedback also (power sellers are the worst)
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Yea meat, I'm pretty sure some of these sellers use the 'guestimation' system for shipping. Probably not sure how much it weighs or would cost for packaging and shipping so they just use some inflated round number 'just to be safe.'
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I would guess that they would know how much something weights if they mailed it enough times. I got me one of them postal scales for my stuff though. Most things I already kow their weight, but weigh the ones that I am not sure on.
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Depends on what it is...I think sellers sometimes jack up the shipping price, combined with a low BIN price to get the buyer to look at the listing (since the BIN price is what they'll see in the list of items). I bought a Palm Vx a month or so ago for $20. $5 for the product, and $15 for the shipping, and it definitely didn't cost that much to ship. And the seller wasn't a penny pincher either...they shipped me the wrong cradle (auction said it'd come with a sync cable only), so to make up for it, they sent me a cradle for the Palm Vx, and a prepaid return shipping envelope for the wrong one even though I said I'd pay to ship it back to 'em.
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Remember, it's shipping AND handling. Sounds like, in your case, you got great handling of the error.
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Nah, it's total cost of the item. At least that's how I look at it, and what I base my buying decision on pricewise. Palm Vx for $20 ain't bad, regardless of what breaks down to for product/shipping/handling costs.