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Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 12:00:01 AM
Circumventing language filter - See Rule #7
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: NUKE on June 22, 2005, 12:09:57 AM
I'd be very pissed.

Why/how did they accuse you of stealing twice in the last week? Seems a little strange.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: SOB on June 22, 2005, 12:11:00 AM
Brush it off...why let it bother you.  He sounds like an overzealous pinhead, and will prolly get quickly disinterested (if he hasn't already) when he gets nowhere with you.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: ramzey on June 22, 2005, 12:13:39 AM
they look for reason to fire you, first thought
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Toad on June 22, 2005, 12:18:24 AM
Is he trying to impress "management" that Inspector Clouseau is always on the job and no one is above suspicion?
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 12:26:20 AM
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Originally posted by SOB
Brush it off...why let it bother you.  He sounds like an overzealous pinhead, and will prolly get quickly disinterested (if he hasn't already) when he gets nowhere with you.

That was my thoughts on the first incident. This second time just really got under my skin. I have never, NEVER been a thief. I've had too much stuff stolen from me and I hate a thief more than anything on the face of the earth.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Gunslinger on June 22, 2005, 12:34:34 AM
RPM when I worked in retail LP guys were never "cool".  They did their job and sometimes took it to the extreme.  I don't know how it's going on at your store(s) but just like upper managment is screaming at you to produce his boss is yelling at him to catch.

This might now be the case at all and the guy's just an arse.  If that's the way you feel what harm would it do to talk to him one on one and ask him what's up.  Show him the respect that you know he has a job to do and tell him how you think he's doing it.

Maybe after a few weeks the guy will settle down into a routine and get the hang of his new surroundings.  

as the bellybutton manager does he work for you?
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 12:41:40 AM
No, he works for "corporate". I probably should blow it off, but twice in a week just really got to me.

I did ask him where he was when a lady shoplifted $50 worth of the prime ribeyes we had Sunday, 5 minutes before I walked out with the plant I paid for.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Gunslinger on June 22, 2005, 12:48:01 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
No, he works for "corporate". I probably should blow it off, but twice in a week just really fluff'n got to me.

I did ask him where he was when a lady shoplifted $50 worth of the prime ribeyes we had Sunday, 5 minutes before I walked out with the plant I paid for.


I allways tell people this.  Try and be the better person.  If he want's to continue "stalking" you file a formal complaint citing the above mentioned theft and allways be a profesional about it.

G'luck
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: JB73 on June 22, 2005, 01:01:09 AM
Circumventing language filter - See Rule #7
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: NUKE on June 22, 2005, 01:11:47 AM
wow JB73, you are old enough to have a girlfriend?
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: GtoRA2 on June 22, 2005, 01:14:58 AM
Sounds like a classic case of DWW :D
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Hangtime on June 22, 2005, 01:17:29 AM
Workin Retail sucks... yer a target for the shrinkage because yer 'management', yer a target for pinhead customers because they are pinheads, yer a target for problem employees because yer the 'man'.. gawd; I hated retail. Not many folks 'enjoy' food shopping so yer not in the loop for postive customer encounters often.. a thankless ungratifying job for me.

As for this security supercop.. he's dangerous. An overzealous twit with a hard on for yah, having been 'made a fool of' twice will probably fabricate the evidence in your next encounter.. If your name already features in his reports to his superiors yer probably already damaged goods reputation wize with the company.  I'd be howling right up the management chain about this clown.. at the very least a written enounter report with your manager and a formal clairfication with your seniors regarding areas of responsibility, methods and reporting for the security clowns is in order.

Best defense is an organized focused offense. In yer shoes I'd confront the poser in the presence of the manager and file a formal grievance.. get mean. Yer reputation, if not yer phoney-baloney (pun intended) job is at stake.

Best of luck, buddy!
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Russian on June 22, 2005, 01:19:35 AM
Steal some stuff as a pay back :aok
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: SuperDud on June 22, 2005, 01:20:10 AM
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Originally posted by ramzey
they look for reason to fire you, first thought


My 1st thought too. And like JB73 said, if they're real jerks it can really hurt you. I'd be looking for employment else where if I were you.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Yeager on June 22, 2005, 01:23:49 AM
sounds like a suck job rpm.  best of luck to you.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 01:30:15 AM
Actually I'm thinking of popping in and talking to the owner tomorrow, receipts in hand, face to face and volunteering to take a polygraph asking me if I've ever stolen anything from any store I've ever worked at.

If there is one thing that I'm pure as the driven snow about, it's stealing.

As for the reason to fire me, I can't think of why. I've had no complaints from my Manager. I follow the rules to the letter on cash management and check cashing. My shifts always balance. I haven't missed a day of work. Heck, they should be looking to promote me.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: ramzey on June 22, 2005, 02:04:15 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
Actually I'm thinking of popping in and talking to the owner tomorrow, receipts in hand, face to face and volunteering to take a polygraph asking me if I've ever stolen anything from any store I've ever worked at.

If there is one thing that I'm pure as the driven snow about, it's stealing.

As for the reason to fire me, I can't think of why. I've had no complaints from my Manager. I follow the rules to the letter on cash management and check cashing. My shifts always balance. I haven't missed a day of work. Hell, they should be looking to promote me.


dont do it, its stupist thing you can do
just start looking for better job
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Nilsen on June 22, 2005, 03:09:03 AM
I would be pissed period. Accusing your customers unless you are 190% sure is a very bad thing, better to take some losses than to start down that road.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skydancer on June 22, 2005, 03:38:18 AM
Don't do it rpm.

I think this guy is pushing you to get a reaction. Give him one and he'll be happy and ratchet it up to see what more he can get. It's tough but best policy is to ignore the jerk and I think he'll get bored. If you have to do something then a quiet word with the manager simnple stating that you feel; as if this guy is trying to cause a problem might be best.

Thats what I would do.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Shane on June 22, 2005, 06:51:08 AM
next time you see that ultra melon, ask him which internet website he printed his diploma off.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 22, 2005, 07:24:23 AM
Hire someone to really steal something and plant it in the jerks car.
then report him. :D

Actually it wouldnt surprise me if in the end it was found out that this guy was doing a bit of stealing hiimself.

Remember hearing of a similar situation around here where a cop was hired to do pretty much the same thing at a grocery store and 6 months later he himself was arrested for stealing from the very store he was hired to prevent stealing from.

Beauty of it was. This cop on the street was known to be a real hard arse. The real gung ho type that would probably give his own mom a ticket for jay walking.

From what I hear its not at all an unsual occurance.

But I would wait and see if it happens again. If it does I would do as you are thinking and go visit the owner.

I've always found its best to meet this kind of situation head on.

If you quit without saying anything you will just look like you are running, and will also make you "look" guilty.

If they are looking to get rid of you they will find a reason anyway
Which may be the case. (coul be they just dont like you)

So I would indeed say something. Yet I'd still look for something else.
But dont just quit without saying anything.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: DREDIOCK on June 22, 2005, 07:39:53 AM
And while your visiting the owner try making this suggestion.

Suggest to him to make it policy that any employee leaving the store with purchased items show the items and the present the receipt to this store security before leaving. Which he (the guard)should also have to sign.
 Point out that by the cop willy nilly stopping people in the parking lot may be opening the company up for harassment charges which whether true or not, is the kind of aggravation nobody in the company needs.
This way they cant be accused of harrassment if everyone is subject to the same scrutiny at all times

That way you dont come off as being a whiner but rather as someone who sees a potential problem and has a suggestion to make it better and covers everyone's arse including his.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Drunky on June 22, 2005, 09:25:38 AM
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Originally posted by rpm
That was my thoughts on the first incident. This second time just really got under my skin. I have never, NEVER been a thief. I've had too much stuff stolen from me and I hate a thief more than anything on the face of the earth.


Wow, you just took another step to becoming towd.

[yoda voice]Beware the dark side.  Many dangers it has.[/yoda voice]
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skydancer on June 22, 2005, 10:45:19 AM
See rule #6
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 11:02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
See rule #6
I think there has always been a line on what is acceptable beyond the language filter's autoediting. Vulgarity is the rule of thumb I use for acceptable language in my posting. But, I'm not a mod and that's just my opinion.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skydancer on June 22, 2005, 11:10:32 AM
So why was your first post in this thread deleted? I can't remember the exact content. Maybe I'm wrong who knows.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 11:22:25 AM
It's possible I crossed the acceptable line, altho I thought I edited it to a PG-13 level. Or it's possible I touched a nerve. I'm not freaked out about it, altho I would have preferred to have the offending comment edited instead of the entire post. We're still in a learning curve with the community mods.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: AWMac on June 22, 2005, 11:24:29 AM
Rpm

BDU's, shave your head and camo paint the whole head, show up at work a lil late with a duffel bag. With a sickly looking grin just keep nodding your head up and down while saying..

 "Yeaaaah Baaaaby"

:aok



*checking all the News Channels and eating popcorn....*

:rofl
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Habu on June 22, 2005, 12:49:16 PM
I was afraid of this.

Now I have no idea what the original post said and it was an interesting thread.

Maybe the guy who deleated your original post is a relative of the security guard. They seem to share some common personality traits.
Title: Re: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Ripsnort on June 22, 2005, 12:53:45 PM
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Originally posted by rpm
Circumventing language filter - See Rule #7


You want my opinion on circumventing the language filter?:confused:
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: SOB on June 22, 2005, 12:58:15 PM
Basically, RPM works for a local grocery chain, and they recently hired a local cop to do shrink (loss by theft from employees) prevention.  Twice in the same week, this guy has looked at RPM as one possible source of shrink.  First when he bought a potted flower, the guy questioned other employees to verify that he paid for the item.  Second, the shrink tard blocked him in with his car while RPM was leaving one day, and insisted on seeing the receipt for the bag of M&Ms he was carrying, in case RPM was making off with 25 cents worth of merchandise.  He wants to know if he should be pissed and feel slighted.
Title: Re: Re: Your Opinions Please
Post by: ramzey on June 22, 2005, 01:00:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You want my opinion on circumventing the language filter?:confused:


why you think anyone care about your opinion?
Title: Re: Re: Re: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Ripsnort on June 22, 2005, 01:06:04 PM
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Originally posted by ramzey
why you think anyone care about your opinion?


He asked.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 01:07:48 PM
And just for the record, I did pay for and have receipts for the items in question per company policy. BTW, I hate a thief. I think they are despicable.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: SOB on June 22, 2005, 01:14:58 PM
Heh, oh yeah, that part pretty much went without saying, as far as I'm concerned. :)
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Ripsnort on June 22, 2005, 01:23:49 PM
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Originally posted by Drunky
Wow, you just took another step to becoming towd.

[yoda voice]Beware the dark side.  Many dangers it has.[/yoda voice]


No, its "liars" he hates to the end of the world (Well, Texas anyway..)  Remember, when he hates someone, they automatically become a liar.:lol
Title: Re: Re: Your Opinions Please
Post by: rpm on June 22, 2005, 01:26:29 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
You want my opinion on circumventing the language filter?:confused:
No, Rip. That was the edited post. It was not my original question. I think we need a bit of fine tuning on the editing process to eliminate the confusion it's creating, but that just my opinion.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Toad on June 22, 2005, 03:46:52 PM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Remember, when he hates someone, they automatically become a liar.:lol


Actually, I think all you have to do to earn a place on his list is simply disagree with him.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skydancer on June 22, 2005, 06:58:25 PM
Now I'm not backseat moderating Im asking a question.

Why is it OK for Shane to use bellybutton hat ? It makes no sense to let that one go if others are deleted! Just a question / observation.

Actualy Id like clarification so as to stay within the rules. I'm totaly confused by them.

Now I will leave this shredded thread!
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Habu on June 22, 2005, 07:25:02 PM
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Originally posted by SOB
Basically, RPM works for a local grocery chain, and they recently hired a local cop to do shrink (loss by theft from employees) prevention.  Twice in the same week, this guy has looked at RPM as one possible source of shrink.  First when he bought a potted flower, the guy questioned other employees to verify that he paid for the item.  Second, the shrink tard blocked him in with his car while RPM was leaving one day, and insisted on seeing the receipt for the bag of M&Ms he was carrying, in case RPM was making off with 25 cents worth of merchandise.  He wants to know if he should be pissed and feel slighted.


If I was him I would tell the store manager that to avoid any hit of impropriorty in the future he would do all his shopping at the nearest compeditors. That way if anyone sees him with store merchindise outside of the store they would know he stole it.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Shane on June 22, 2005, 08:58:20 PM
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Now I'm not backseat moderating Im asking a question.
Why is it OK for Shane to use bellybutton hat ? It makes no sense to let that one go if others are deleted! Just a question / observation.
Actualy Id like clarification so as to stay within the rules. I'm totaly confused by them.


weelllllllll...  what rule exactly do you perceive that I could be considered to have broken?
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Drunky on June 22, 2005, 09:34:35 PM
Well, had Shane called you an ultra melon...well, that might be different.

On the contrary he called someone not on this BBS an ultra melon I believe...and that's okay.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skydancer on June 23, 2005, 02:06:54 AM
Sorry Shane not having a go at you just trying to get some clarity.

You may be right Drunky. I could see that.

Not easy to stay withing the rules if you're not exactly sure how they operate though is it?

Nevermind I'll have to guess I spose.

:aok
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: hawker238 on June 23, 2005, 09:18:21 AM
Mods, please don't remove a whole post for language.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skuzzy on June 23, 2005, 09:33:00 AM
Posts which circumvent the language filter will be completely removed.  If you do not want that to happen, then be mindful of this.  Simple.
Your choice, make it.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: AWMac on June 23, 2005, 09:39:16 AM
IN
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: JB73 on June 23, 2005, 09:48:19 AM
i dont get it either.....


calling someone, even though not on the board, an ultra melon is ok, but putting *'s in place of a word is circumventing the language filter?

i guess i am stupid, because it does not make sence
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skuzzy on June 23, 2005, 09:53:24 AM
I do not get why people feel they need to try to make childish attempts at getting around the language filter.

I do not get why anyone needs to use profanity in a discussion on a bulletin board.

I do not get why people cry about being told they will be held accountable for thier actions.

I do not get why we have to have moderators.  Oh, I remember, because too many simply do not think they should be held accountable.  Or think they have some right to do whatever they feel like in our home.
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Post by: Westy on June 23, 2005, 10:00:26 AM
"I do not get why..."

 Cause you've forgotten, after all these years, what it was like to be 13?!   ;)
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: Skuzzy on June 23, 2005, 10:07:46 AM
There is a lot of truth in that Westy.
Title: Your Opinions Please
Post by: slimm50 on June 23, 2005, 10:17:15 AM
RPM, were it me in your situation, I'd continue to do my job to the best of my ability while looking for another job. It's apparent to me that someone there, either the store manager or the store detective, doesn't like you, for whatever reason. It'd be best to get another job elsewhere before they fire you for some trumped-up reason. That kind of thing can follow you and make your life much harder than it needs to be.

This, according to One-Who-Shall-Remain-Nameless, is my "valuable" opinion.