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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: 1K3 on June 22, 2005, 01:45:33 AM
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What's the most common model/variant frontline fighters used by the LW in late war (one for West front and the other for east front)?
Just curious since i'm setting up a semi-historic gamepley for H2H.
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Define 'late', because equipment changed a LOT during 1944... I can say for the 109s, starting with 109G-6, which almost completely disappeared by the end of the year.
I can only help you with 109s, but I think Crumpp will have data for FW 190s.
I compiled the list from http://www.ww2.dk - which would be VERY useful for your purpose, if you have your time, as it has every german unit`s equipment from March 1942-Dec1944 - but only sorted out 109s... IIRC about 200 D-9s were being around by dec 1944, somewhat less A-9s and the rest being A-8.
As for Bf 109types, I can give you a much more definiative answer :
Ie. ca 65% of the Bf 109 types being G-10, G-14/AS and K-4. Since AH only has the G-10, and the performance of the other two is VERY simialir (max speed 680-690-715kph, G14AS/G10/K), I recommend to use that one. The rest being G-14 with MW50, plus a few oddballs.
From : RL2III/1158
On 31 January 1945 the combat units of the Luftwaffe and their associated Erganzungs Einheiten, had the following strength in Bf109 types. These are on hand totals, they include both 'frontline' and 'other' units. Included are all aircraft operational and non-operational at the time. (combat/Erganzungs):
Bf109G1/5 (0/1)
Bf109G12 (0/5)
Bf109G6 (71/328)
Bf109G14 and G14U4 (431/190)
Bf109G10, G10/U4 and G14/AS (568/3)
Bf109K4 (314/0)
Bf109G10/R6 (51/0)
Total (1435/527)
Other Jagd types totaled (1058/359)
Schlacht types totaled (680/375)
Nachtschlacht types totaled (422/95)
Zerstorer types totaled (42/0)
Nachtjagd types totaled (1241, no breakdown between the two)
Kampf types totaled (543/158)
Nahaufklarer totaled (407/27)
Fernaufklarer totaled (195/81)
See types totaled (78/17)
Transport types totaled (496/9)
Grand total (6597/1631)
As of May 1945 the following Gruppen were operateing the Bf 109:
II./JG3 - Bf 109G-10
III./JG3 - Bf 109K-4
III./JG4 - Bf 109G-14/K-4
IV./JG4 - Bf 109G-14
III./JG6 - Bf 109G-14
II./JG11 - Bf 109G-10/G-14
I./JG27 - Bf 109G-10/K-4
II./JG27 - Bf 109G-14
III./JG27 - Bf 109K-4
III./JG51 - Bf 109G-14
IV./JG51 - Bf 109G-14/K-4
1./JG52 - Bf109G-14/K-4
II./JG52 - Bf 109G-10/G-14
III./JG52 - Bf 109G-14
1./JG53 - Bf 109G-10/G-14
II./JG53 - Bf 109G-14
III./JG53 - Bf 109K-4
IV,/JG53 - Bf 109G-14
1./JG77 - Bf 109K-4
1./JG300 - Bf 109G-10/G-14
111./JG300 - Bf 109G-10/G-14
IV./JG300 - Bf 109G-14
1./NJG11 - Bf 109G-14
II./NJG11 - Bf 109G-14
III,/NJG11 - Bf 109G-14
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Originally posted by 1K3
What's the most common model/variant frontline fighters used by the LW in late war (one for West front and the other for east front)?
Just curious since i'm setting up a semi-historic gamepley for H2H.
Luftwaffe Order of Battle
9 April 1945
Serviceable Aircraft Strengths
Single-engined fighters 1305
Night fighters 485
Ground-attack aircraft 712
Night harassment aircraft 215
Multi-engined bombers 37
Long-range reconaissance aircraft 143
Short-range and army cooperation aircraft 309
Coastal aircraft 45
Transport aircraft 10
Misc. aircraft (KG 200) 70
Total 3331
Luftwaffe Order of Battle
10 January 1945
Serviceable Aircraft Strengths
Single-engined fighters 1462
Night fighters 808
Ground-attack aircraft 613
Night harassment aircraft 302
Multi-engined bombers 294
Anti-shipping aircraft 83
Long-range reconaissance aircraft 176
Short-range and army cooperation aircraft 293
Coastal aircraft 60
Transport aircraft 269
Misc. aircraft (KG 200) 206
Total 4566
The Luftwaffe on the Eve of Overlord, 31 May 44
Serviceable Aircraft Strengths
Single-engined fighters 1063
Twin-engined fighters 151
Night fighters 572
Fighter-bombers 278
Ground-attack aircraft 352
Night harassment aircraft 305
Twin-engined bombers 840
Four-engined bombers 97
Long-range reconaissance aircraft 153
Short-range and army cooperation aircraft 210
Coastal aircraft 123
Transport aircraft 719
Kampfgeschwader 200 (misc. aircraft) 65
Total 4928
from http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/2072/LW_OBs.html which also gives Front, model and unit data.
Note also it is for a/c capable of missions, NOT those sitting around waiting to be fixed for what ever reason they are U/S.
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Hmm, interesting...
Serviceable Aircraft Strengths
The Luftwaffe on the Eve of Overlord, 31 May 44
Single-engined fighters 1063
10 January 1945
Single-engined fighters 1462
9 April 1945
Single-engined fighters 1305
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burning...