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Title: The Doc
Post by: Lizard3 on June 22, 2005, 03:40:08 AM
I enjoyed flying in one of Doc Gonzo's scenarios "relatively" recently, but havn't seen him around recently.

I also read in a motorcycle magazine about a fella who's alias was Doc Gonzo checking out recently. Is that a coincidence? Has anyone heard from the Doc lately?
Title: Re: The Doc
Post by: SkyWolf on June 22, 2005, 07:24:43 AM
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Originally posted by Lizard3
I enjoyed flying in one of Doc Gonzo's scenarios "relatively" recently, but havn't seen him around recently.

I also read in a motorcycle magazine about a fella who's alias was Doc Gonzo checking out recently. Is that a coincidence? Has anyone heard from the Doc lately?


I think the one who checked out was Hunter S. Thompson. The original Gonzo journalist and creator of the Doc Gonzo name. I used to fly with Doc Gonzo in AW.... but never was under the impression that they were the same guy.

Woof
Title: The Doc
Post by: Lizard3 on June 22, 2005, 05:52:48 PM
Whew, I was worried!

Then I found out the guy was 69 year old burn out. What was weird was he had the same sword/fist/gonzo thing that our Gonzo uses...er stole I guess.
Title: The Doc
Post by: NoBaddy on June 23, 2005, 07:18:28 AM
Last I saw, Dok was still around...but, using shades to play.
Title: The Doc
Post by: storch on June 23, 2005, 07:57:21 AM
many of those "legend in your own mind" types that think they are somehow special due to the fact they were paying per hour to play an online flight game plus paying to be logged on to an isp plus paying long distance charges all use shade accounts. why is that?  :D
Title: The Doc
Post by: Dead Man Flying on June 23, 2005, 08:02:13 AM
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Originally posted by storch
many of those "legend in your own mind" types that think they are somehow special due to the fact they were paying per hour to play an online flight game plus paying to be logged on to an isp plus paying long distance charges all use shade accounts. why is that?  :D


Dok Gonzo isn't special because he paid per hour to play online air combat sims.  He's special because he invented the entire concept of scenarios and other community-based events that now form the core of such games as Aces High.

He has earned the title of "legend" in this community, not just in his own mind but in the mind of many others.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: The Doc
Post by: hogenbor on June 23, 2005, 08:11:46 AM
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Originally posted by storch
many of those "legend in your own mind" types that think they are somehow special due to the fact they were paying per hour to play an online flight game plus paying to be logged on to an isp plus paying long distance charges all use shade accounts. why is that?  :D


Weelll, long, long before I came to AH in 2003 I was reading about on-line sims and thrilled by the idea. About 1996 I was fascinated about Warbirds and even longer ago a friend had a copy of Air Warrior for DOS.

We couldn't even play it on-line in those dark ages of the internet. But one of the contributors of the AW manual was a Doc Gonzo. To me that counts as pretty legendary as far as on-line sims go... :D

Of course everybody now plays on-line games so there seems to be a lot of longing to the days of yesteryear when people playing on-line still had valour and honour. I guess the community was much tighter then.

Even a casual and very average player like me sometimes gets a bit annoyed by completely clueless people, but isn't that how we all started?

It all comes down to that it isn't any more as it once was. And the human brain tends to keep the good memories. But you can't turn back the clock, nor can we change the way people want to play. The lost thing I read from Doc G. was a rant on the horde mentality in the MA, here on these boards...
Title: The Doc
Post by: storch on June 23, 2005, 08:32:56 AM
I read the same rant and also participated in an exchange of volley posts with the legendary Doc Gonzo.  The impression I came away with is that he like many other "pioneers" are having a hard time dealing with the growing success of the MMOG flight variant and it's inevitable changes.  I'm sure that if one of our founding fathers were able to come forward in time to 2005 he might well be feeling the same as "our" Doc Gonzo.  Life is dynamic I would suggest a good dose of get over it and move on.  The formula that this current MMOG has is apparantly successful so in the words of Suleyman the magnificent, "the dogs bark but the caravan moves on"  I recall seeing an advertisement in the late '80s or early '90s for an online flight game.  I called the toll free number and spoke to the developer (I assume) after he laid out the costs involved I thanked him and hung up.  I came away with the impression that it was far too costly and that it would fail.  I am grateful (as it were) to Doc Gonzo and others upon whose bank accounts we are currently standing for funding the developement of this entertainment medium allowing it to be today played inexpensively by the likes of me.  :D
Title: The Doc
Post by: Ack-Ack on June 23, 2005, 03:23:13 PM
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Originally posted by storch
many of those "legend in your own mind" types that think they are somehow special due to the fact they were paying per hour to play an online flight game plus paying to be logged on to an isp plus paying long distance charges all use shade accounts. why is that?  :D


If ignorance is bliss, you have a mighty blissful look on your face.


ack-ack
Title: The Doc
Post by: BigR on June 23, 2005, 03:40:25 PM
Maybe they play under shades because they just want to play the game, and don’t want to deal with people such as you. It sounds like they have already taken their dose of "get over it". Maybe you should take yours now.
Title: The Doc
Post by: BTW on June 23, 2005, 04:04:09 PM
Storch, you gota read Holmes' "Monkey" post. I'll see if I can find a copy on the net :)

Its all about nannas...
Title: The Doc
Post by: storch on June 23, 2005, 05:08:13 PM
See rule #5 and #4
Title: The Doc
Post by: Hornet on June 23, 2005, 05:58:21 PM
i'm sure with all that's passed, it still warms the cockles of the wrinks hearts that, while the handles change, the ankle humping dweebs never go away.
Title: The Doc
Post by: dhaus on June 24, 2005, 02:59:26 PM
Mo 'Nanas story by holmes:  http://www.vulch.clara.net/monanas.html

I loved that one!
Title: The Doc
Post by: slimm50 on June 24, 2005, 04:06:36 PM
dhaus, thanks for finding that. I'd not seen it b4. Great stuff.
Title: The Doc
Post by: BTW on June 24, 2005, 04:57:24 PM
I was going to put "BTW (organ-grinder)" as a sig file, but I thought better of it. Contex is everything.
Title: The Doc
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 24, 2005, 05:08:18 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Dok Gonzo isn't special because he paid per hour to play online air combat sims.  He's special because he invented the entire concept of scenarios and other community-based events that now form the core of such games as Aces High.

He has earned the title of "legend" in this community, not just in his own mind but in the mind of many others.

-- Todd/Leviathn


Not only that, he gives up alot of his own time when he does scenarios just to make things more fun for the players.  Despite his rather salamanderly exterior, Dok cares alot about the community and does his part to help.  

On top of that, he's a pretty darn nice guy.  Aside from his temper.  Besides Storch, I'da figured anyone that could get that worked up and rant like Dok Gonzo can would be alright in your book.  Or are you just stirrin the pot again?  lol  Which rule is that?  :)
Title: The Doc
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on June 24, 2005, 05:10:00 PM
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Originally posted by BTW
Contex is everything.


Aint that some of them "feminine aids"?
Title: The Doc
Post by: DoKGonZo on November 01, 2005, 11:47:18 PM
Storch, you am be an idiot.

My frustration is not, nor has ever been, due to "difficulty dealing with the growing success of the MMOG flight variant". Rather that the genre has yet to live up to its potential.

That I don't play the game is more a tribute to a lack of time and the ambient suckiness on display in the main arena. Some nights the MA is so bad I swear I could see my screen start to go concave from it.

I have always hated the Horde Ethic. It's effective, but dull and inefficient. And it erodes the the skill level of everyone involved. The critical toolkit for a fighter pilot is just as much instincts and decision making as flying skills and gunnery. In the Horde, only the last two are of use and get developed. You do the math.

What makes The Survivors of GEnie so special isn't that we spent more money than we should have. It's that during that narrow band of time we were able to immerse completely in the game in a way that hasn't been possible since. And its that We Were There when the game crawled out of the swamp and sprouted legs. In my case, that goes back almost 20 years.

In any event, I am still very much alive. The real DoKtor GonZo, Hunter S. Thompson, took his own life earlier this year. There were several discussion in this very BBS about it.
Title: The Doc
Post by: 38ruk on November 02, 2005, 01:28:28 AM
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Storch, you am be an idiot.

couldnt have said it better lol