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Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Reschke on June 23, 2005, 10:45:21 AM
The Final Battle in North Africa 1945 a continuation “What If” scenario. Week of June 23 - June 30.


The time is now 1945 and the German Afrika Korps has taken a beating by the combined armies of the United States and Britain with the Free French assisting them. The Allies landed a force in Morocco and began a drive eastward only to be stymied by the Desert Fox. Rommel was removed from combat with severe physical ailments but returned in time to orchestrate a brilliant defensive plan that stopped the Allies again on their drive to Egypt. Now its time to begin pulling back into Italy and prepare for what many feel will be the final battles to solidify the Thousand Year Reich.

The Americans and British have massed 500,000 troops in North Africa to beat the Germans into the Mediterranean. Field Marshall Rommel knows that he simply can’t compete with the overwhelming force that faces him. He has asked the German High Command for all the support they can muster since the Eastern Front no longer exists. As such the Luftwaffe is racing fighter and bomber Geschwaders into Italy and North Africa to support the remaining ground forces in North Africa.


Among the fighters pouring into North Africa on allied side are the brand new P-51D, P-38L, B-24 Liberator, Tempest V and the F4U-1D. The Axis forces are refitting expended fighter squadrons with the newest aircraft in their inventory and only available in small numbers. Those being the Me-262 and Ar-234 (please read the notes at the bottom); those aircraft are accompanied by the Fw-190D9, Bf-109G-10, an upgraded Ju-88 and the Bf-110G2 for ground attack and close air support.

With the Soviet Union having just completed a separate peace agreement with Germany it has opened up the war to new areas. Japan is begging Germany to push through the Middle East and attack India. Germany is beginning to see the light at the end of the tunnel of war. Can they hold out? Can they defend long enough for the army to get reinforcements through to Mediterranean? Only time will tell and sadly there isn’t much left.

The setup:

Map: Tunisia
Allied Planes: P-51D, P-38L, F4U-1D, Tempest V, B-24
Axis Planes: Bf-109G-10, Fw-190D-9, Bf-110G2, Me-262, Ar-234, Ju-88
Support Aircraft: C-47
Ground Vehicles: Tiger (Axis only), Pz Iv (representing newer M26 Pershings), M8, M-16, M3
Special aircraft notes: Me-262, Tempest V and Ar-234 will be limited to two bases each on respective territory.

Radar: 500 feet minimum Bar/Sector 30 miles
Night: Yes
Base Capture Yes/No: Yes to capture is 30 troops
Fuel Burn: 1.5
Killshooter: On but can change in the setup
Visibility: Max
Down Time on buildings: 10 Minutes
Icon Range: Short range
Friendly Collisions: On but will monitor them and adjust as needed.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: TrueKill on June 23, 2005, 10:56:28 AM
will temps be limited?
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Grits on June 23, 2005, 11:06:26 AM
I think subing the Panzer for the M26 is shortchanging the Allies a bit. The armor and the US 90mm gun on the M26 was every bit equal to the Tiger. Otherwise (and the GV's are of little concern to me anyway) it looks like a great setup.
Title: well - we DID have good #'s in CT...
Post by: Eagler on June 23, 2005, 11:42:02 AM
:(

rather see another week of the same
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: storch on June 23, 2005, 12:46:02 PM
what??? no spit IVX???  :D
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Reschke on June 23, 2005, 01:13:49 PM
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Originally posted by TrueKill
will temps be limited?


Yes and I apologize for not putting it into the MOTD. I will change that now.

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Originally posted by Eagler well - we DID have good #'s in CT...

:(

rather see another week of the same


I agree that it could be different but as I mentioned in another thread we were running out of available staffers to have it changed this weekend.

NO SPIT 14..........I don't care who grumbles and rumbles about it.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: TrueKill on June 23, 2005, 03:49:13 PM
they going to be perked.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: TexMurphy on June 23, 2005, 04:35:00 PM
Great setup... though we need to get this map desertized.. ;)
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: gear on June 23, 2005, 04:52:12 PM
Is there going to be stars out at night this time?
Turn on the kill shooter .
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Reschke on June 23, 2005, 09:36:43 PM
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Originally posted by gear
Is there going to be stars out at night this time?
Turn on the kill shooter .


I doubt the stars will be out....sorry I can't control the weather......well I can but I'm not......:D

Just for you gear I will make sure that Kill shooter is turned on.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: gear on June 24, 2005, 06:03:51 AM
thx dude. I guess I'll fly by the light of the full moon then.
:D
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: TrueKill on June 24, 2005, 09:18:23 AM
is the sky going to be pitch black again at night time?
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Reschke on June 24, 2005, 09:44:23 AM
I hope not but I still need a color suggestion to change it to. You know we have that option but I need someone to give me an RGB color number to work with.......ANYONE?????
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Eagler on June 24, 2005, 10:00:05 AM
no night at all .. it does nothing but hurt attendance as most leave as soon as they login when they find it is night time
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: gear on June 24, 2005, 10:07:52 AM
We will need night fighters then.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Reschke on June 24, 2005, 11:00:58 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler
no night at all .. it does nothing but hurt attendance as most leave as soon as they login when they find it is night time


I agree Eagler but if I can find a lighter shade to make it less dark then that should help matters greatly.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: gear on June 25, 2005, 06:51:05 PM
The ack is down less then 2 min.Is the way it is set?
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: eskimo2 on June 25, 2005, 08:54:53 PM
I'm not excited about this one.  I'll see you all next week.

eskimo
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: storch on June 26, 2005, 12:12:51 AM
The ack is rediculously high and the plane set is about what you find in the MA so I'll see ya's next week as well.  here's a clue 1943 to early 44 planesets seem to be very popular with the majority of folks. no one likes eating bait.

carry on.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Slash27 on June 26, 2005, 09:15:05 AM
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Originally posted by storch
The ack is rediculously high and the plane set is about what you find in the MA so I'll see ya's next week as well.  here's a clue 1943 to early 44 planesets seem to be very popular with the majority of folks. no one likes eating bait.

carry on.



 So you cant handle a P51D,P38L vs G-2,G-10,D-9 set up now? The ack was set at MA norms,if thats rediculous why do you fly the MA?
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: storch on June 26, 2005, 10:14:28 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
So you cant handle a P51D,P38L vs G-2,G-10,D-9 set up now? The ack was set at MA norms,if thats rediculous why do you fly the MA?


The G10 and the Dora are easily the planes I use least because all they are good for is running from a fight, you will usually find me running to a fight.  the 109G2 is absent from the plane set we have the very capable 110G2 but while I can hold my own in most 1 v 1 engagements in it it doesn't fare too well against multiple opponents.  

with regard to the ack issue,  the game play in the MA is significantly different from game play in the CT for two reasons, people and distance.  in the MA there are many people and if some player runs to ack one can fairly easily find a fight in the same sector thereby obtaining one's "fix" that is not typically the case in the CT.  with regard to distance TK posted another thread on the topic if your attention span will allow read it, he is spot on.

 just post if I can help you clear up any questions or lingering doubts.  I know you don't play much any more and that puts you  out of touch with the goings on in the arena.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Reschke on June 26, 2005, 10:31:34 AM
Storch I have been working on getting it adjusted all morning so far. I have things working better and have now rebuilt my computer....something I really didn't need to spend the money on this weekend but it had to be done since this one is my wifes business machine as well.

Anyway I was leaving the G2 in the setup but changed it to the G6 and because the 262, Temepst and Tiger were perked the last time they were in the arena they are still perked. With the last minute change I forgot to talk to Skuzzy about getting them changed and now I think its for the best.

As for the puffy AAA I am adjusting that as well. I flew in there a few minutes ago to see what the range was and its ridiculous but severly inaccurate. I flew at 5k feet at under 200mph and never got hit once. Also I dove into an airbase and on the third time through the guns I got hit three times running the length of the base with no jinking to avoid any gunfire. So I think that is a little better than what it was last week. If you have anything else please let me know.
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: storch on June 26, 2005, 10:57:23 AM
if the G6 or the G2 is enabled that should be sufficient.  I don't suspect you'll see many people in the jet.  my preferrence would be the G2.  I suppose I would have enabled the 205 and the 190A8 as well but it isn't up to me is it?  enabling the P38J, P40E and the P51B wouldn't be a bad idea either.  but then that wouldn't be 1945 would it?
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Slash27 on June 26, 2005, 12:47:02 PM
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Originally posted by storch
The G10 and the Dora are easily the planes I use least because all they are good for is running from a fight, you will usually find me running to a fight.  the 109G2 is absent from the plane set we have the very capable 110G2 but while I can hold my own in most 1 v 1 engagements in it it doesn't fare too well against multiple opponents.  

with regard to the ack issue,  the game play in the MA is significantly different from game play in the CT for two reasons, people and distance.  in the MA there are many people and if some player runs to ack one can fairly easily find a fight in the same sector thereby obtaining one's "fix" that is not typically the case in the CT.  with regard to distance TK posted another thread on the topic if your attention span will allow read it, he is spot on.

 just post if I can help you clear up any questions or lingering doubts.  I know you don't play much any more and that puts you  out of touch with the goings on in the arena.



 Because I am unable to play AH due to Savvis doesnt put "out of touch" with anything. Ive played longer than you so trust me, I get the game.  Who's fault is it you cant put up a fight anyway?
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: RTR on June 26, 2005, 01:22:02 PM
Just my opinion, but I'd get rid of the 262 and the Tempest.

262 is just a pain in the arse at the best of times, and Tempest is really only there to counter it.

Maybe enable the G2 for the Axis drivers. I understand it has a soft seat that helps keep the chafing to a minimum from the  leather thong:D .

Nice to see the F4U in the mix here though:)
It's gonna create some fun fights.



RTR
Title: The Final Battle in North Africa 1945
Post by: Eagler on June 26, 2005, 03:23:36 PM
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Originally posted by RTR
Just my opinion, but I'd get rid of the 262 and the Tempest.

262 is just a pain in the arse at the best of times, and Tempest is really only there to counter it.


yep, removing these two planes can only help

why do the germans need the g2 again? it is lopsided enough without it..