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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on June 23, 2005, 07:23:52 PM
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I rarely go to the theatre anymore, and when I do, it's only for the eye candy. I might go more often, but taking the entire family can be an expensive night. It's far cheaper to just buy the DVD.
Even with matinee prices, it's all the stuff afterwards that's insane... $3.00 for a soft drink? Puhleeze... and let's not forget popcorn. It costs pennies to make and yet they're selling small tubs for $4.00 or more.
It's ridiculous.
... oh, and let's not even get started on the commercials that start beforehand.
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Thats a cinema.
A theatre is where you go to watch the ballet, a play with real live actors ( not CGI) or a comedian or some such thing. ;)
Funny how we speak the same language but don't if you see what I mean.
Thats why there is so much confusion over the rules in this place.
( sorry if this is a hijack went off on a tangent )
But I agree with you. Its a rip off. I go to the Cinema rarely and only if I think the film will be better enjoyed on a big screen. I don't buy the junk there I eat and drink before I go. Mind you I don't have any kids yet so who knows!
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You make a great point. Sadly, its been that way forever. Its comedy material that going to the movies costs a lot.
I honestly dont understand why a medium popcorn is $5.50. Or a medium drink is $4.50.
And I also dont understand why more people arent vocal about this. But perhaps with the recent Hollywood theater slump, they'll figure out that its vastly cheaper to rent the DVD than sit in their theaters.
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I've gone to the movie theater three times in the past 10 years.
I haven't even seen Star Wars Ep III yet, because I am not going to a movie theater evar again.
Rip me off to sit there and have to deal with getting people to shut up or have them take their bastard child outside so it will shut up or stop kicking the chair while sitting in a crappy uncomfortable seat with some strange goo on the floors and arm rests.
No thanks.
-SW
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Thats a cinema.
A theatre is where you go to watch the ballet, a play with real live actors ( not CGI) or a comedian or some such thing. ;)
Funny how we speak the same language but don't if you see what I mean.
Thats why there is so much confusion over the rules in this place.
( sorry if this is a hijack went off on a tangent )
But I agree with you. Its a rip off. I go to the Cinema rarely and only if I think the film will be better enjoyed on a big screen. I don't buy the junk there I eat and drink before I go. Mind you I don't have any kids yet so who knows!
Can't you find a nice quiet english BBS where you don't have to force feed your culture down one's throat because of your insecurities? :D (j/k)
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It has been over 2 years since I went to a first run theater to watch a movie. I wait until it's out in the "cheap" movie theaters. I do like to see it on the big screen and hear the sound track on a super sound system.
To me the theaters and more specifically the folks who make the movies are making big bucks. Watching the "score" of how many millions the studio makes on opening weekend is a good indicator of the amount of money they are making over production costs. Then again I am NOT a fan of paying entertainers and sports entertainers fabulous amounts of money for what they do. They should be compensated decently but paying them millions of dollars for a single season / film is outrageous to me. Because of thet I do what I can to insure I pay the least amount for their "product".
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the cinemas make their profit from all the popcorn, drinks , etc, your ticket price goes to pay the "stars" 20 million per picture.
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If its an epic and something I think is interesting Ill go see it in the movies (cinema)
If its just a comedy or some sort of drama. I'll just wait for the DVD.
I'll sping for a large coke but usually sneak my own snacks in.
Anybody ever go for the double feature.
That is when one movie ends slip into another one instead of leaving?
I dont but my wife will do it with my son.
I usually get pretty pissed when I find out as Im not into that sort of thing.
Never been a good theif so I dont do it.
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I stopped watching movies in the cinema when they started showing a bunch of commericals before the film in addition to the usual previews. The point of going was to escape commercials, not be bombarded with commericals when I couldn't even change the channel.
J_A_B
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I don't envy the cinema companies.
"Home Theater" is pretty amazing right now and there's never a line for the bathroom.
Once you get in the cycle "new release" DVD's come along quite regularly and cheaply.
The companies say VHS didn't kill them and DVD won't either. Probably not; the kids have to have somewhere to take their dates, the "big screen" will always have it's appeal.
I think the "glory! glory!" days are over for them though.
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Madstone cinema in Phoenix (Chandler, on Ray) tried the old fashioned film approach and quickly ran out of business.
They had a guy give a spoken intro to each movie, which was really good I thought, and a nice place to sit for drinks or talk next to the register. That could have been improved in terms of comfort and aesthetics, but they obviously hadn't made enough profit yet.
It showed mostly indy and foreign films, and the better hollywood stuff.
The sound systems and seating were as good as the regular big theaters, so it's a shame it didn't last.
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I'm just going to chime in here since I work at a 5 screen cinema.
As john9001 said, cinema's make all their money at the snack bar as we get almost nothing off the ticket. Our cinema got 2 copies of SW:EIII and after the first week was over, we ended up with our best opening weekend ever. Our ticket sells netted 13,000 bucks, the best ever for a cinema in this little town. However, the movie company gets 90% profit off each ticket, so that means out of that 13,000 bucks the cinema got 1,300. Bare in mind if that was our only income, we would be looking for new jobs now, however, even though we only made 1,300 dollars in ticket sells, our snack bar made well over 10,000 dollars in candy, popcorn, and drink sells, and that is 100% profit right there. So I hope you guys can understand why prices at cinema's are so high.
Also a little tidbit so you know how much cinema's have to spend to stay running. At our cinema it cost's us 15 dollars an hour to run 1....ONE projector and all its support equipment. (lamphouse, lights, exhaust, platters, automation, sound system, ect.) Times that number by 3 since Star Wars is 3 hours long. Now times that by 10, as for the first 2 weeks we had 10 shows of Star Wars running a day. If my math is right that comes out to 450 dollars a day to run 2 theatre's, and I'm not even adding in the fact that we had 3 other theatre's playing other movies besides Star Wars.
So please, next time you goto see a movie, spend a few dollars (if you can spare it) at the snack bar. Those people behind the counter will thank you as their paychecks and jobs are riding on it.
/rant off
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FWIW,
movie houses now make more money off of DVD sales (in most cases) than they do off of theater/cinema tickets or concessions.
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Originally posted by Skydancer
Thats a cinema.
That there's a picture show. dang city folk.
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"pichure show" I think, isn't it?
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Beefcake, thanx for the info... I didn't realize it was that bad.
Of course, by continuing to bring my business to a "cinema" I am enabling a bad business model. I think I'll stay home until the movie companies get their heads out of their asses.
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ppl who go to movies do not have widescreen hi def mega tv, progressive scan dvd with surround sound at home... or they like the crowded, noisy aggravation that the movie going experience has become..
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You people are going to the wrong cinemas at the wrong times. I haven't had a bad experience since LOTR: Towers, and that was only bad because we were stuck on the front row in an IMAX theater (our fault, showed up late).
However, I do tend to go earlier in the day, just after lunch when there's virtually no crowds if heading to a regular cinema. Also, y'all would probably change your minds if you could ditch your kids & head to an Alamo Draft House, which serve alcohol & good food.
The commercials need to stop though :mad:
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Originally posted by Eagler
ppl who go to movies do not have widescreen hi def mega tv, progressive scan dvd with surround sound at home...
Your right.
My pockets arent deep enough to just buy a system like that on a whim.
And spending $2,000 on a cheap system just to watch TV and some occasional movies is not very high on my priority list right now. And wont be for the forseeable future LOL
I do drool when I look at them though. I just cant justify the price
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Originally posted by Sandman
Beefcake, thanx for the info... I didn't realize it was that bad.
Of course, by continuing to bring my business to a "cinema" I am enabling a bad business model. I think I'll stay home until the movie companies get their heads out of their asses.
See now if the movie houses were smart, they would band together and refuse to run the movies unless they got a larger cut of the ticket sales
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Originally posted by indy007
You people are going to the wrong cinemas at the wrong times.
However, I do tend to go earlier in the day, just after lunch when there's virtually no crowds if heading to a regular cinema.
The commercials need to stop though :mad:
Another good time to go is around dinner time around 6:00.
Actually thats a good time to go to alot of places. the mall, Home depot. etc
Your right about the commercials. bring bag bugs bunny and road runner cartoons! LOL
But you can walk in just before the start time and miss most of those commercials, which unfortunately are here to stay.
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
But you can walk in just before the start time and miss most of those commercials, which unfortunately are here to stay.
Yup, but supposedly we'll be getting commercials on HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, & the rest of the premium channels in the next couple years. They'll be between the movies, not interupting them, but they'll be there nonetheless. So much for paying the extra $20/month to avoid them.
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Originally posted by indy007
Yup, but supposedly we'll be getting commercials on HBO, Cinemax, Showtime, & the rest of the premium channels in the next couple years. They'll be between the movies, not interupting them, but they'll be there nonetheless. So much for paying the extra $20/month to avoid them.
(http://www.bookofjoe.com/images/tivo_logo.jpg)
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skyprancer.... we call them "movie theater" This is, like all American english, a much more accurate description of what is really going on than the foppish brit version.
I like movies but go a lot less now. the "movie theater" is a good place to go when in the afternoon when it is 105 out or when there is something that I have been waiting to see or some grand spectal with fantastic effects or scenery or...there is a good kids movie to take the grand daughter to.
I like movies a lot. I have hundreds of em.. I have a 62" TV with surround sound. It is very close to the movie theater experiance for me with none of the hassle.
Go to maybe 6-10 a year. I will definetly go to see the new "land of the dead" and "serenity" and still end up buying both of em.
lazs
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I have to agree with lazs on this. I have a decent home theater with hundreds of DvDs and I still prefer to see movies in the theater. There's no home system that beats it. The big screen and dominant sound is just too cool. The crowds and consessions can be avoided.
For those with kids... I understand how it would be an issue. But, where in the hell can you take your kids and spend less (other than the park)? They're just too expensive. You should keep them locked in the garage and only let them out for school and yardwork.
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Originally posted by lazs2
Go to maybe 6-10 a year. I will definetly go to see the new "land of the dead" and "serenity" and still end up buying both of em.
lazs
I don't get this.. how can you see a movie then buy it?
Do you watch it again and again? Do you read the same book over and over again?
I see a movie and read a book once, don't you lose some of interest when you know what happens next? how it ends? just wondering ..
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yes... I may watch some movies 3 or 4 times over the years.
As for books... any book you have read when you were 10 or 20 years younger or even... before a life changing experiance... any of those books will read completely differently to you now..
unless you are an idiot.
lazs
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must be a ID-10-T error here - thanks for pointing that out.. :)
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I didn't say you were an idiot.
I said that if you did read a book or watch a movie more than once and didn't get something new from it.... then you would be an idiot.
You claimed you never have so... your idiocy or lack thereof is still a mystery.
Tell you what... read the Great Gatsby again and tell us if you got anything different from it this time compared to when you read it in junior high.
and yes... you probly will know what is going to happen.
lazs
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"ppl who go to movies do not have widescreen hi def mega tv, progressive scan dvd with surround sound at home... "
Don't get me started on TV's....
I don't go to the movies anymore, and I sure as heck don't own one of those hideous, overpriced, 5-foot-screen monstrosities. I mean, my god, I see TV's for sale for $7K nowdays and for that ripoff price all you get is an ugly lump of plastic that sticks out like a sore thumb in almost any room as opposed to naturally fitting in. No thanks! I'd rather stick with my 20 year old RCA, it still works great.
J_A_B
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I went to go see SW3 and thoroughly enjoyed it. Paid about 20 bucks for three of us and we didnt buy any food or drink. Since this was 3 weeks after the release and was a 830pm show on a wednesday night we had our pick of seats. Was a total of about 20 people in a cinema that seats ....well........alot more than 20.
I might go see 1 or 2 films a year.
And yes, cinemas are overpriced and the industry is hurting themselves by making the experience too difficult for many people to want to bother with. DVD rentals are way more popular than visiting cinemas.
Whiners....hell, everyone whines about everything.
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"Whiners....hell, everyone whines about everything."
Why do you think god (or maybe just Al Gore) invented online forums? Where else can I read complaints about the current state of the theater industry right alongside the proper way to set up a tranny for optimal 1/4 mile performance?
J_A_B
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"No thanks! I'd rather stick with my 20 year old RCA, it still works great."
Color tv?
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Originally posted by Eagler
I don't get this.. how can you see a movie then buy it?
Do you watch it again and again? Do you read the same book over and over again?
I see a movie and read a book once, don't you lose some of interest when you know what happens next? how it ends? just wondering ..
every time "office spaces" comes on TV i have to watch it, lol.
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You bet Westy! Stereo sound too, and it's one of those newfangled models with rollers instead of legs. The TV is actually one of the newer pieces of furniture I have; most of the stuff dates from the '40's - '60's. I'm not a big fan of the "modern" (AKA all plastic all the time) look. Personal preference.
J_A_B
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"Personal preference."
Just a little good natured ribbing.. :)
I have a couple hobbies that's for some things going back to the 30's and 40's.
"I don't get this.. how can you see a movie then buy it? "
I watched Animal House for the thirtybazillionth time the other night AND I own it on DVD.
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I like the theatres just fine. Hollyweird is the problem.
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I go to the movies all the time. Lately, with school and whatnot, I have the ability to go during the day...usually to the first showing. Price ain't that bad during the day, and my local theater chain (Regal) has a card you can get for free that you have them swipe when you buy a movie ticket or buy something from the concession stand, and you earn points, and get free stuff when you hit certain point levels. You also get a free small popcorn on Tuesdays with the card (which can be upgraded for the price difference which is $.25 between the sizes).
I saw High Tension the other day. It cost me $5.75 for the ticket, it was Tuesday so I got a free small popcorn, and I hit a level that gave me a free small drink. Upgraded 'em both to medium and was up to $6.75. Also, I was one of three people in the theater, and the other two, a couple, left about twenty minutes into it. Oh, and the movie was pretty good too.
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Originally posted by SOB
I go to the movies all the time. .
I don't think they are tallking about the ones you meet PeeWee Herman at in your raincoat.. :)
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Originally posted by Eagler
I don't think they are tallking about the ones you meet PeeWee Herman at in your raincoat.. :)
Excuse me, but he prefers to be called Paul when he has his wang exposed. Calling him PeeWee makes him feel self concious.
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Originally posted by Mini D
For those with kids... I understand how it would be an issue. But, where in the hell can you take your kids and spend less (other than the park)? They're just too expensive. You should keep them locked in the garage and only let them out for school and yardwork.
You mean there are people that dont??
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Originally posted by Eagler
I don't get this.. how can you see a movie then buy it?
Do you watch it again and again? Do you read the same book over and over again?
I see a movie and read a book once, don't you lose some of interest when you know what happens next? how it ends? just wondering ..
Some movies I have. actually now that I think about it.quite a few.
And I rarely bother renting anymore. I just buy it then I can watch it at my leasure and not have to worry about returning it on time or late fees.
Same thign with books. I've for example read BH Liddel Harts book "Strategy" 4 times. As well as both volumes of "The Patton Papers"
Quit a few regular novels I've read multiple times and enjoyed just as much as the first time I read them.
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I only go to the ****in movie theaters because I'm not patient enough to see the movies I want to see out on DVD.
Almost all movies I see in the Theaters I will buy on DVD. There isn't a single movie I own that I don't like.
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Um... I go... and I pay for the popcorn.
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I love going to the movies. Before I had a kid I went almost every weekend. But I have to go to the Sunday early show, when everyone else is asleep. I love the movies but I hate people.
-Sik
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I don't mind going to cinema's, there is one in New Lennox (Kerasote #14) that if you show a student ID (my brother, 34, showed his OLD HS one (don't know why he had it with him) and they charge you 6 bucks for tickets. As for food we usually sneak our own in like candy, but we buy soda because of the huge refills.
I like the movie experience with a group of friends at a late late late show, its basically empty and we can goof off a little bit.
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I thought Cinema was a French word we nicked off them!
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I go to a discount candy store and buy the candy first. Soda too. Tougher to sneak in during the summer months!
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I carry a back pack with beer and homemade popcorn when I go see the latest Holywood remake of something that was once original.
Now I feel guilty after reading mr Beefcakes post.
Just let us in the back door when yer not busy..We'll load up on snacks i tell ya!..(still gonna sneak in beer though)