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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: eagl on June 25, 2005, 12:15:39 PM
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Any reason to not get an Hitachi 42PD7800? I can get a decent price I think.
1024x1024 resolution, 6 inputs, yadda yadda. No I probably won't run AH on it, but that would look neat I think :)
Anyhow, any reason to not get this model?
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Plasma does suffer from burn-in. They run hot and need a lot of cooling.
EDIT: Also figure to replace it in 5 years or so. They do not hold up well.
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Those are reasons to not get plasma, not a reason to not get this model :)
Hitachi is advertising a 20 year life. It'll be in a well ventilated area and turned off when not in use.
Some of the reasons I like this model are the resolution, the gazillion inputs, and it is both multi-voltage AND multi-system so I can ditch my 2 tvs (one US, one UK) and replace with just this one.
At work we have had wall mounted 52" plasmas showing our flying schedule in a grid / spreadsheet format for a year, running 12-14 hours a day, with no burn-in, so I'm fairly certain that with my viewing habits I won't ruin the tv too soon.
The cost is just a bit under $3600, which is pretty decent for this one. A sony at the store using the same screen is $4500.
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Ok, just was not sure if you knew about the burnin issue.
I have no first hand experience with anything from Hitachi. Quite fanky, I personally would not have considered them when looking for TV's.
Doe snot mean they are not good product, I just do not think about them when I think about consumer electronics.
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burn-ins are mostly a thing of the past ive been told. One guy at the mac forum i visit had left it on all night (6+ hours) with a static desktop-computer image on.
After a few times of "cleaning" the screen it was all good again. A Sony 42" i belive it was.
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I can beleive they have improved it, but there is no way to get rid of it. It's phosphor, it will degrade.
But, I bow out of here as I cannot be of any help to eagl on this one.
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Skuzzy,
What do you have or recommend? I don't want a projection because I move so much, it'll just get ruined, and I don't have the room for a really large conventional tube tv. I almost bought a nice sony 32" flat tube tv but I'd have to darn near remodel my house to even get it in the door, let alone find a place to put it. A flat panel display like a plasma would fit even better than the old 29" tube I am using now.
I did almost buy a regular projection tv for about $1700 but I wasn't completely satisfied with the off-angle viewing plus the moving thing. Sure they all have automatic alignment and calibration now but when I know I'm going to be shipping it every 2-3 years, I'm fairly sure it wouldn't last. One plasma screen at work was literally kicked around for 6 months while we were remodelling it's room, and it still works just fine.
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eagl
i just read a test (in norwegian) that gave the 42PD7200 a 6/6
here is a link to the test, but its prolly no use to you. http://www.dinside.no/php/art.php?id=213210
I dont know the diff between this tested model and the 7800, but if it is a number higher i bet its even better. :)
go for it
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What about LCD? Black levels as not as good, and brightness is close, but no burnin, and they are quiet as they require no cooling fans. For moving, they are also lighter than plasma.
Price-wise, I am not sure how they compare.
I am not saying plasma is bad, by the way. I have known some folks who bought in early and got burned (pun? :)) and the industry has been desperatly trying to recover from that.
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In general the plasmas are better in darker scenes and fast moving action (movies and console gaming). They are also cheaper at the same size.
I belive the LCD wins in the rest of the categorys.
Imo 42 is too big unless you sit abit away from the screen, cause they will all look fuzzy if you sit too close and 42 is too big for me.
I would look for a good quality 32/37" LCD tv and not a 42" plasma or LCD.
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Yea.
The 7800 is new/big in Australia I think. The 7200 and 7800 may be almost the same thing but with diffs for europe/asia/aus.
If I was going to stay in the same place for 10+ years, I'd probably go with LCD or DLP, maybe a projector.
I can't get an LCD this size for anywhere close to this price. Even a huge projection tv with LCD costs more I think.
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Do not buy an plasma or LCD screens for atleast another year... prices are going to change dramatically.
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How so bodhi? They're already about 2/3 of what they were a year ago... What's coming out that will drive down the prices?
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new production lines are popping up and also the way the panels are made is changing. Most of the brands also really wants to drop production of CRT tv's and for them to do so they need to offer more and cheaper LCD's.
If i was to buy a tv NOW i would go for a good 32" crt, but you dont have that option.
Ofcourse one can always wait forever because something new is around the corner.
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With some of the modern thin DLP designs, there aren't really any great reasons to go with Plasma anymore, methinks.
That aside, the specs you listed are not HDTV. It's the bastard standard half-way definition TV.
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Bodhi may be referring to the new OLED (Organic LED) sets coming out, which will drive the price down of other technologies.
LCoS based sets are also coming along nicely.
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Oh yes... OLED's
They are supposed to be far superior to LCD and Plasma. Im glad Im not in the market for a new set now, cause stuff is happening and OLED (how could i forget) is perhaps one of the most exciting technologies that is out within a reasonable timeframe.
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Interesting. This monitor has higher resolution than most other plasma screens I've seen. Most are 1024x8xx something, or lower.
I went to the store to buy it tonight, and was thwarted by the store. Either they're a bunch of retards or they don't actually want to move expensive non-discounted merchandise. They have 12 in stock but one is in storage 15 miles away at the old store they closed down 2 months ago, and the other 11 are in a trailer behind the store and haven't been accepted into stock because I live in the freaking UK and retailers just don't think that way. None will be available until Monday, and I'm working 12 hour days so I can't get to the store during the week. I mean really, why actually unload merchandise before a weekend when people might want to buy it? Only an ignorant barbarian colonist would expect a hot new featured item to actually be available for sale on a Saturday, really. There is even a hotshot international Hitachi salesperson who's been here for 2 weeks pushing these things, but if you actually want to buy one on your day off, you must be a fool.
So I don't have a new tv and I'm not sure I'll bother. I don't really NEED a 42" plasma screen and if they won't even go to the effort of unloading their merchandise off of the truck so it can be sold on a busy retail weekend, why should I give those retards any money?
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Originally posted by eagl
Interesting. This monitor has higher resolution than most other plasma screens I've seen. Most are 1024x8xx something, or lower.
I went to the store to buy it tonight, and was thwarted by the store. Either they're a bunch of retards or they don't actually want to move expensive non-discounted merchandise. They have 12 in stock but one is in storage 15 miles away at the old store they closed down 2 months ago, and the other 11 are in a trailer behind the store and haven't been accepted into stock because I live in the freaking UK and retailers just don't think that way. None will be available until Monday, and I'm working 12 hour days so I can't get to the store during the week. I mean really, why actually unload merchandise before a weekend when people might want to buy it? Only an ignorant barbarian colonist would expect a hot new featured item to actually be available for sale on a Saturday, really. There is even a hotshot international Hitachi salesperson who's been here for 2 weeks pushing these things, but if you actually want to buy one on your day off, you must be a fool.
So I don't have a new tv and I'm not sure I'll bother. I don't really NEED a 42" plasma screen and if they won't even go to the effort of unloading their merchandise off of the truck so it can be sold on a busy retail weekend, why should I give those retards any money?
is this AAFES or a local retailer?????
and
WAAAAAAHHHHHHHH sir!
R/S
Gunslinger
;)
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aafes
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Originally posted by eagl
aafes
explains everything sir. AAFES does not have a business model to speak of. They couldn't make money at an exchange if a base were completly sealed and troops were forced to shop there.
Ours here has redicilus prices, the only way to get a good deal on anything is to price challenge them with a best uuy or walmart add. worst part is those stores are 50 miles away.
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Bodhi may be referring to the new OLED (Organic LED) sets coming out, which will drive the price down of other technologies.
OLED
Is that a minituarised version of CRTs?
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I am not sure who makes there pannels,
But if you have a chance look at the panasonic ones, They just switched to a new type of process to increase the life of the units. T
here is not a better one out there at the monent for plasma life, They also have some of the best black levels around,
If you look at the non consummer versions they are alot of times cheaper then anyones. But those dont come with tunners, or speakers or anything like that
But then i am a little biased
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Originally posted by 1K3
OLED
Is that a minituarised version of CRTs?
nope
organic light emitting diode
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Someone who knows something about their stocking system realized that the one in "remote storage facility 1" was actually out back in the main warehouse, so I brought it home today.
So far there's only one real problem, and I'm a total tard apparently.
This thing is a monitor, not a tv. That's right, no tuner. Oops. Why do I need a tuner? Because NTL in it's infinate wisdom tossed out my old but broken digital cable box with the separate coax, s-vid, and video/sound outputs, and gave me one that has ONLY coax out. That means that it can only be used with a tv that has a cable tuner, even though the box itself is used to select channels.
I think I may be able to convince NTL to come out and either give me the digital breakout cable or swap me into a new, more useful cable box, but I'm a retard for not noticing that this sucker didn't have a coax input. It has an antenna input, but no coax. It has DVI and VGA inputs, 8 inputs in all including 3 digital connectors I've never seen before, but no coax.
Tard -=> eagl.
That's the only issue I'm annoyed at. The preset contrast was maxed out and there were some other settings that made dark dvd scenes explode in green and pink blotches, but getting rid of those require nothing more than tweaking a few settings. The picture is very nice too. I bought a cheap progressive scan dvd player and it turned out to be a piece of junk. I couldn't even force it into progressive scan mode with the included instructions, so I may return that player. My older dvd player has 3 vid quality modes, standard, hi-res, and no-flicker, but the manual completely skips that menu so I'm having to experiment to see if I can figure out if one of them forces it into progressive scan mode. Lots of reading and research into seeing how to make this sucker look better, but it's already a massive improvement.
Even though it doesn't have coax input. Damn.
Oh yea, I also blew up my subwoofer swapping out cables because I forgot to turn it off before switching the cables out and I think it's not grounded right, so it went "whomp" a few times while swapping the cables. Now it's not very loud anymore and it makes a loud pop every few minutes when running my stereo in surround mode. Bummer.
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Lol... thats abit more trouble that i would have liked, but its all fixable.
Congrats with yer new tube!
err... liquid crystals i mean :)