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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Reschke on June 29, 2005, 09:32:24 AM
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Only kidding about the title. Its a funny story from my viewpoint.
Putin takes Super Bowl Ring from Patriots owner. (http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3726702)
This made my morning. Especially the part in the article when "a Kremlin official who spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of compromising his position".
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:rofl
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NUKE EM'!
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LOL...beautiful.:aok
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First, it's a SuperBowl ring. Next, it's Estonia.
The Russian 'Freedom Tanks' will be liberating eastern europe from their oppressive fledgling democracies any time now.
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I hope that folks are seeing this. Next person to greet Pres. Putin make sure you keep your hands in your pockets!!! :eek: :p
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that was funnay.
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Interesting story.
Looks like a provocation.
Putin can understand English, so I doubt he could misunderstood and take such thing if it wasn't given as a present. Maybe translator's mistake?
Boasting such thing is like some Russian businessman boasting... I don't know, maybe a golden gorodki bat.
Another thought: any presents made to President or any other official can't be kept as personal posession.
"a Kremlin official who spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of compromising his position" - I leave it to a sick imagination of the journalist.
I love a modern tendency to show Russians in cold-war colours. Just as good as a hype about Khruschev's shoe.
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Putin stole Kruschev's shoe too?!?!?!?! Man you better get that klepto under control soon! :eek:
:p :p
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Originally posted by Boroda
Interesting story.
Looks like a provocation.
Putin can understand English, so I doubt he could misunderstood and take such thing if it wasn't given as a present. Maybe translator's mistake?
Boasting such thing is like some Russian businessman boasting... I don't know, maybe a golden gorodki bat.
Another thought: any presents made to President or any other official can't be kept as personal posession.
"a Kremlin official who spoke on condition of anonymity out of fear of compromising his position" - I leave it to a sick imagination of the journalist.
I love a modern tendency to show Russians in cold-war colours. Just as good as a hype about Khruschev's shoe.
LOL Boroda.. yer as transparent as a freakin window.
Yah LOVE the 'cold war' mentality; hell; you and I are Cold War Poster Children.
Lets both relax and enjoy the show!
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Originally posted by Hangtime
LOL Boroda.. yer as transparent as a freakin window.
Yah LOVE the 'cold war' mentality; hell; you and I are Cold War Poster Children.
I only try to find reasonable explainations for this idiotic accident.
Don't you agree that your media has a bias towards Russia? Just like some media here is biased towards US, the direction depends on political orientation, from adoration to hatered.
About Khruschev's shoe: IIRC he didn't beat it against the rostrum in United Nations. He was at his seat tieing his laces or something and started to react emotionally on someone's speech, but now "everyone knows" that he was threatening the West beating his shoe :)
Originally posted by Hangtime
Lets both relax and enjoy the show!
I don't care about Putin and IMHO it may be quite funny if he just played dumb and took the ring from boasting American, bursting into laughter after leaving the meeting :D He does have a sence of humor ;)
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Boroda; I just spent two weeks in Russia and it really is that sucky place.
You have rules but you don't obey them.
You have police but nobody trusts them.
You have roads but nobody takes care of them.
You have buildings which are falling apart on their own.
You have government officials who work only two days per week.
What you don't have is good manners and it looks like that applies to Putin too.
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(http://graphics.nytimes.com/nytstore/images/products/photos/americanexp/1960/NSAPFS5_large.jpg)
That's Mr K, and sitting in front of him is the 'alledged' shoe he used to pound the rostrum with. His assistant appears to be smiling, the guy behind him is laughing, and Mr K does not appear to be too emotionally over-wrought.
And, the shoe looks tied to me.
;)
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Originally posted by Staga
Boroda; I just spent two weeks in Russia and it really is that sucky place.
Then - why bother visiting?
Originally posted by Staga
You have rules but you don't obey them.
You prefer to always obey all rules? How do you survive? ;)
Originally posted by Staga
You have police but nobody trusts them.
We don't have police. We have Militia, that translates from Latin as "armed crowd". See the difference? ;)
Originally posted by Staga
You have roads but nobody takes care of them.
What? Do you think all that holes and bumps appear by themselves? ;)
Originally posted by Staga
You have buildings which are falling apart on their own.
They kept standing for 60 years since they were bombed last time, isn't it an achievement? ;)
Originally posted by Staga
You have government officials who work only two days per week.
Two times per week? I thought - two times per month... ;)
Originally posted by Staga
What you don't have is good manners and it looks like that applies to Putin too.
Let me answer you in a polite Muscovite way: "Dear Staga! It's not Your ****ing business!" :D J/K ;)
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It was the funniest thing I read all morning long because of the official speaking out but wanting to keep quiet.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
That's Mr K, and sitting in front of him is the 'alledged' shoe he used to pound the rostrum with. His assistant appears to be smiling, the guy behind him is laughing, and Mr K does not appear to be too emotionally over-wrought.
And, the shoe looks tied to me.
;)
Hang, Khruschev is a reason enough to demand compensation from Ukraine for his stupidity and ignorance. He was a clown.
As I said: he took his shoe off at his seat, not while making a speech on a rostrum.
Just to show you a similar propaganda "hook" from "Red" side: everyone knows that US defence secretary, Forreslall, committed suicide by jumping out of a madhouse window screaming "Russians are coming!!!", when he heard some noise from the street that he thought is from Soviet tanks. ;)
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This is the ring that is involved.
(http://cachemediasrv.patriots.com/ImgDyn.cfm?s=patriots_ring_pr.jpg)
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Originally posted by Staga
Boroda; I just spent two weeks in Russia and it really is that sucky place.
You have rules but you don't obey them.
You have police but nobody trusts them.
You have roads but nobody takes care of them.
You have buildings which are falling apart on their own.
You have government officials who work only two days per week.
What you don't have is good manners and it looks like that applies to Putin too.
Wait........
Were you in Russia or France???
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Don't EVER introduce your wife to that man... He might take her home too. Heaven forbid some mayor gives him a ceremonial "key to the city".
If he was given a set of plastic wings by the airlines, would he think he's in charge of the plane?
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Looks like the Kremlin Library ended up with this ring, not Putin.
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Figure its probably happened like when you borrow someones lighter then without thinking about it put it in your pocket.
Funny story though
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LOL.. Boroda, with all due respect.. you are quite the piece of work. ;)
Originally posted by Boroda
IAbout Khruschev's shoe: IIRC he didn't beat it against the rostrum in United Nations. He was at his seat tieing his laces or something and started to react emotionally on someone's speech, but now "everyone knows" that he was threatening the West beating his shoe
So I put up the NY Times picture of Kruschev.. with a shoe on the table. The incident is a matter of very public record; happened in the UN, with the world's ambassadors & press looking on.
Hang, Khruschev is a reason enough to demand compensation from Ukraine for his stupidity and ignorance. He was a clown.[/b]
Now, the 'shrugged shoulders, upturned hands' sterotypical rooski re-direct.. kinda like Col. Klink apologizing away Hitler as an 'Austrian'.
You really crack me up sometimes.. yer so.. so...
Russian!
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BOSTON (AP) - Russian President Vladimir Putin walked off with New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft's diamond-encrusted 2005 Super Bowl ring during a recent meeting with U.S. business executives.
But not to worry: Kraft says the ring was a gift to Putin, presented out of "respect and admiration."
Earlier, Russian media had speculated that Kraft hadn't meant to give away the ring.
"I showed the president my most recent Super Bowl ring," Kraft said in a statement released Wednesday. The Russian president "was clearly taken with its uniqueness," Kraft said.
"At that point, I decided to give him the ring as a symbol of the respect and admiration that I have for the Russian people and the leadership of President Putin," Kraft said.
Putin met with the businessmen Saturday at Konstantinovsky Palace near St. Petersburg, Russia. Near the end of the meeting, Kraft took off the ring, and handed it to Putin. Putin tried it on, put it in his pocket and left, according to Russian news reports.
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/3726702
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Well whatever happened Kraft was big to let it go. Either he really gave it away..or let the incident end there and said he gave it to him to avoid an embarrassing moment for both men.
As for him laughing after he walked away from the boasting business man...Thats what I dislike about alot of people in the world. Cry poverty, get the whole sandwich from a generous guy, then laugh as you chow down, making jokes about him having to eat his socks.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
So I put up the NY Times picture of Kruschev.. with a shoe on the table. The incident is a matter of very public record; happened in the UN, with the world's ambassadors & press looking on.
You misunderstood me, probably because of my poor English :(
My point was that he took off his shoe at his seat, not beating it against a rostrum while making a speach shouting "we will bury you!". Taking a shoe off shows him as an ignorant semi-illiterate peasant he was.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Now, the 'shrugged shoulders, upturned hands' sterotypical rooski re-direct.. kinda like Col. Klink apologizing away Hitler as an 'Austrian'.
Hang, you know that I am half-Ukrainian myself, so, again - misunderstanding of what I hoped could be recognised as sarcasm towards our "smaller brothers" and all the idiotic "occupation/compensation" hype in Western press. Was my Grandfather a Ukrainian occupant in Russia?...
Originally posted by Hangtime
You really crack me up sometimes.. yer so.. so...
Russian!
I got used to all kinds of weird minds here, so I am hard to surprise. And your way of thinking is exactly as if it was copied from Soviet-time propaganda pamphlets. :rolleyes: ;)
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Originally posted by Boroda
I Don't you agree that your media has a bias towards Russia?
Our media has a bias toward everything. But they will tell you they're not biased, but they're only fooling themselves.
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Originally posted by slimm50
Our media has a bias toward everything. But they will tell you they're not biased, but they're only fooling themselves.
Not only your media, it's so all over the world.
This is why I will always insist that there is no such thing as "free press".
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always with the re-direct. Russians. :rolleyes: Now it's 'my poor english'. LOL
Boroda, if my 'way of thinking' was from an anti-soviet propaganda pamphlet (somebody's gotta produce one of those.. never seen one, myself) I'd not be calmly chatting with yah now.
Regarding Kruschev.. why would you consider him an ignorant peasant? The guy was a Hero of the Soviet Union, and thanks to him you guys didn't get turned into radioactive swiss cheeze and florida is still inhabitable (barely).. he musta had some redeeming qualities, beyond saving your un-born butt!
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Originally posted by Hangtime
always with the re-direct. Russians. :rolleyes: Now it's 'my poor english'. LOL
Hang, I speak a foreign language here, and it's from a different group then Russian. And our cultures are really different. So I try to explain things that you don't know in a language that isn't meant for it.
Originally posted by Hangtime
Boroda, if my 'way of thinking' was from an anti-soviet propaganda pamphlet (somebody's gotta produce one of those.. never seen one, myself) I'd not be calmly chatting with yah now.
Hang, again, I was speaking about Soviet-time USSR anti-american propaganda, not about anti-soviet. Misunderstanding again or you misread my post?...
Originally posted by Hangtime
Regarding Kruschev.. why would you consider him an ignorant peasant? The guy was a Hero of the Soviet Union, and thanks to him you guys didn't get turned into radioactive swiss cheeze and florida is still inhabitable (barely).. he musta had some redeeming qualities, beyond saving your un-born butt!
Carribean crisis was his main political achievement, together with missile-bluff. At least he (or let me say Soviet government) managed to force US missiles out of Europe, and he scared US to death with Sputnik.
A Hero of a Soviet Union? He got that title because of his position. His military talent resulted in 1942 Khar'kov catastrophe. He's the one who is responsible for it.
He was good in political intrigues, and pretty bold there, like 1953 coup against Beriya and his team, when he used Army against MVD/MGB, and several years later got rid of the people who brought him to power.
Space race and missile doctrine are usually assosiated with him, but space projects started mostly against his will because of Sergey Korolyov's enthusiasm, when he had to almost blackmail military command to get some R-7 missiles for sattelite launches. You need to see an old Soviet movie called "Taming of the Fire " (http://imdb.com/title/tt0069434/) about Korolyov. And Khruschev's missile doctrine ended up in total destruction of Air-force and Navy...
And his ideas about planting corn in the Arctic! Ike almost ruined Soviet agriculture by showing Mykita corn fields in the US...
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Wasn't Kruschev number 2 or 3 in command at Stalingrad?
He has my respect for just living through and surviving THAT.
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Originally posted by Curval
Wasn't Kruschev number 2 or 3 in command at Stalingrad?
He has my respect for just living through and surviving THAT.
IIRC he wasn't there during critical operations. For his ****-up at Kharkov he deserved to be executed. He used his power as a "Front military council member" (Party advisor) to insist on pushing forward even after it was obsious that it's a German trap...
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Horsepucky. You speak (type) and understand american english better than some americans I know. Language dodge is not accepted. I prefer the 'Col. Klink' ruse, myself. ;)
So.. which do you admire more.. Stalin for his purges, or Kruschev for his reforms and stellar dipolmacy?
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Which issue of Todays Revised Russian History are we using? I can't keep up sorry.