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Post by: wrag on July 01, 2005, 07:33:39 AM
sex offender required to register without really trying????

http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-molest01.html

a question is brought up in about the middle of the article that creates an interesting aside.
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Post by: capt. apathy on July 01, 2005, 07:42:40 AM
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In the criminal case against him, Cook County Judge Patrick Morse said that "it's more likely than not" Barnaby planned only "to chastise the girl" when he grabbed her, but "I can't read his mind."


so much for "beyond a reasonable doubt"
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Post by: DieAz on July 01, 2005, 07:57:40 AM
hmmm

guess now every fire fighter, or 1st responder,or cop, or etc, that grabs a child to pull them out of a burning car or whatever, is guilty and must be registered.

since that law is weird like that. what would you do? risk the label or well you know.

IMO dumbest laws are passed by dumber politicians.

those kinds of politicians need a big brand on their forehead saying "1 r 5tup1d".
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Post by: Fishu on July 01, 2005, 08:06:53 AM
Does that mean kindergardens and schools are full of child molesters? :eek:
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Post by: DieAz on July 01, 2005, 08:08:22 AM
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
so much for "beyond a reasonable doubt"




in some courtrooms "the defendant is innocent without a doubt"
means nothing. they'll still get convicted.

nothing like watching/witnessing a kangaroo court in session.


don't get me started. I'm still beyond mad about a couple of trials I've seen.
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Post by: ASTAC on July 01, 2005, 08:43:21 AM
This is just giving more power to kids...adults are getting to where we have to fear children because of what they might say we did.

This man will never be able to have a normal life ever again..and for what...NOTHING!
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Post by: mosgood on July 01, 2005, 09:10:01 AM
Hopefully the citizens in that area will take note of how stupid this is and react appropriately and get rid of these idiots when the time comes.
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Post by: Jackal1 on July 01, 2005, 10:27:10 AM
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Originally posted by mosgood
Hopefully the citizens in that area will take note of how stupid this is and react appropriately and get rid of these idiots when the time comes.


  By idiots, I hope you mean the ones who prowl the streets looking for children to use the line "come here little girl" on and the constantly growing number of child sex offenders.
  I think it is sort of lame to base your opinions on the writing of a staff reporter, looking for headlines and the guy`s attorney.
  You expect a defense attorney to come to court and say " Yea, he was prowlig the streets looking for young girls, but......."?
  If you had to swerve to miss a child in your car do you think you would be in any condition where the first thing that would come to your mind to do would be to jump out of your auto and say "come here little girl", then grab her by the arm to "lecture" her? Give me a break.
  The other scenarios spoke of above are covered by the law and are not remotely similar to incidents such as these.
  One side of the story from a defense attorney and a reporter do not the truth make.
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Post by: Gunslinger on July 01, 2005, 10:39:52 AM
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"I don't really see the purpose of registration in this case. I really don't," Morse said. "But I feel that I am constrained by the statute."

Yes this is what you get when you write laws that take power away from judges by making mandatory sentencing requirments

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Recognizing the stigma that comes with being labeled as a sex offender, the appellate court said "it is [Barnaby's] actions which have caused him to be stigmatized, not the courts."


No it was the statute that stigmatizes him and the dumb jurry that found him guilty.....and the dumb DA that actually indicted him....and the dumb judge that didn't throw the case out.....and the dumb police that arrested him......and the idiot girl that was walking in the middle of the street.\

Unless they are messing with my kids I DO NOT associate with children I do not know.
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Post by: AdmRose on July 01, 2005, 10:54:18 AM
I love how not only do the courts label him as a sex offender, but then they wash their hands of the matter by saying that its not their fault. :rolleyes:
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Post by: Hawklore on July 01, 2005, 10:58:35 AM
Well then I must have several accounts of child sex offenses against me I've grabbed plenty of kids doing stupid things at amusement parks/streets/when babysitting, stay away from me!
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Post by: SOB on July 01, 2005, 11:04:29 AM
What was this tard doing, grabbing/restraining a 14-year-old girl that he doesn't even know to lecture her.  That said, he should have been sentanced to a course in how to remove your head from your ass, not registered as a sex offender.  The DA should be smacked upside his head.
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Post by: mosgood on July 01, 2005, 09:09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
By idiots, I hope you mean the ones who prowl the streets looking for children to use the line "come here little girl" on and the constantly growing number of child sex offenders.


No where does anyone say that they even suspected him of doing that.  They were following a guidline of the law.


Nice drama though.... 7.5 points
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Post by: Jackal1 on July 01, 2005, 10:45:00 PM
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Originally posted by mosgood
No where does anyone say that they even suspected him of doing that.  They were following a guidline of the law.


Nice drama though.... 7.5 points


  You expect a staff reporter and a defense attorney to admit to that?
Common sense bud.
  I`ll give you a 9.5 on the sucker scale.
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Post by: spitfiremkv on July 01, 2005, 10:47:05 PM
he should refuse to register, get arrested and hope the jury will demand that he be released and that the sex-offender status be removed.
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Post by: Jackal1 on July 01, 2005, 10:51:18 PM
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Originally posted by spitfiremkv
he should refuse to register, get arrested and hope the jury will demand that he be released and that the sex-offender status be removed.


Or the perv could try clicking his ruby red slippers together and say "there`s no place like home. No there`s no place like home" .

  If he had used the line "come her little girl" and grabbed one of my daughters and she had been lucky enough to get away from him , he wouldn`t have had to worry about a judge and jury.