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Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: 1K3 on July 01, 2005, 09:07:33 PM
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imo P-47s especially D-11 turns too tight for my taste even at lo alts:)
Title: Re: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: DipStick on July 01, 2005, 09:14:00 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
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imo P-47s especially D-11 turns too tight for my taste even at lo alts:)

Not "tight" enough. ;)
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: RightF00T on July 01, 2005, 10:35:50 PM
LOL..and what real world data do you have for this?  Just because it doesnt feel right it should be changed?
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Messiah on July 01, 2005, 10:36:52 PM
"for my taste"
Title: Re: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 01, 2005, 11:30:58 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
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imo P-47s especially D-11 turns too tight for my taste even at lo alts:)



LMAO!


ack-ack
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: RTSigma on July 02, 2005, 02:05:08 AM
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Originally posted by Messiah
"for my taste"



quoted for hilarity.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: RightF00T on July 02, 2005, 08:43:14 AM
Am I missing a joke here??:confused:
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: SlapShot on July 02, 2005, 08:46:08 AM
Hmmmmm ... so we are modeling by taste now .... hmmmmm ... let me think about this.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Morpheus on July 02, 2005, 09:27:17 AM
lol

Man, I've started some pretty retarded threads in my day... But the ones that come from this guy redefine retarded.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: 1K3 on July 02, 2005, 03:22:36 PM
Go try to fly this so called big bus (for example, D-11)...

(in lo alt fites)

Try applying "tricks"

When the situation gets ugly, extend ubermagnificent flaps...

Viola!!! now you can out turn ANY plane except for A6Ms and SPITFIRES and this plane wont tip stall like 109s 190s at slow speeds (back then i thought i was flying a P-38 in P-47 lol)

sounds gamey but works.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Toad on July 02, 2005, 03:40:23 PM
Is this Straiga, the F-14 pilot to whom the Navy has no record of awarding aviator's wings?

Or is this a new one?
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Vudak on July 02, 2005, 03:49:02 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
Go try to fly this so called big bus (for example, D-11)...

(in lo alt fites)

Try applying "tricks"

When the situation gets ugly, extend ubermagnificent flaps...

Viola!!! now you can out turn ANY plane except for A6Ms and SPITFIRES and this plane wont tip stall like 109s 190s at slow speeds (back then i thought i was flying a P-38 in P-47 lol)

sounds gamey but works.



You can do the same thing in a Hellcat and to some extent in Corsairs and Mustangs.  It's not gamey, it's what the planes can do.  Course in real life I doubt many pilots would have liked to get that low and slow in the first place as self-preservation would have been high on their list.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Widewing on July 02, 2005, 04:23:16 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
Go try to fly this so called big bus (for example, D-11)...

(in lo alt fites)

Try applying "tricks"

When the situation gets ugly, extend ubermagnificent flaps...

Viola!!! now you can out turn ANY plane except for A6Ms and SPITFIRES and this plane wont tip stall like 109s 190s at slow speeds (back then i thought i was flying a P-38 in P-47 lol)

sounds gamey but works.


Please, many fighters out-turn the P-47D-11 in a stall fight. Stop making a big to-do about nothing.

My regards,

Widewing
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 02, 2005, 04:45:45 PM
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Originally posted by 1K3
Go try to fly this so called big bus (for example, D-11)...

(in lo alt fites)

Try applying "tricks"

When the situation gets ugly, extend ubermagnificent flaps...

Viola!!! now you can out turn ANY plane except for A6Ms and SPITFIRES and this plane wont tip stall like 109s 190s at slow speeds (back then i thought i was flying a P-38 in P-47 lol)

sounds gamey but works.



All of the P-38s can fly circles around a P-47D-11 in that situation you describe.

The sky is not falling 1K3.



ack-ack
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: SuperDud on July 02, 2005, 04:52:20 PM
P38 can't out turn a P47 with powerups and a pilot with a wizard hat!
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: pellik on July 02, 2005, 08:59:34 PM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
P38 can't out turn a P47 with powerups and a pilot with a wizard hat!


My PJ with the +1 to Dexterity and Turnarity mods might have a chance. It also mods my Charisma +2 when I wield it, but that doesn't effect the game much.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: SuperDud on July 03, 2005, 12:11:32 AM
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Originally posted by pellik
My PJ with the +1 to Dexterity and Turnarity mods might have a chance. It also mods my Charisma +2 when I wield it, but that doesn't effect the game much.


Aren't you afraid of prismatic sprays??? You'll have to roll a 20 to avoid:eek: Or what if the pilot is wearing boots of evasion?
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: SirLoin on July 03, 2005, 12:20:36 AM
As soon as we get the new cockpits..It will be tweaked!..:)
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on July 03, 2005, 01:26:48 AM
I wished my P47 had the "shoes of escape":lol

Hey IK3, check out the wings of the P47, they semi elliptical ... sounds familliar with a spitfire wing?
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Roscoroo on July 03, 2005, 01:47:32 AM
what the hell are u worried about 1k3 .. your still stratching for kills in h2h land .

As far as the d-11 is concerned I dont think its compleatly recoved from the ah2 switch .. its still too soft as in pilot wounds go and it doesnt seam to have regained the nice "edge" it had befor (i still fly it alot)
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 03, 2005, 02:23:52 PM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
P38 can't out turn a P47 with powerups and a pilot with a wizard hat!




LIGHTNING BOLT!  LIGHTNING BOLT!  LIGHTNING BOLT!




ack-ack
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: pellik on July 07, 2005, 02:12:18 PM
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Originally posted by Roscoroo
what the hell are u worried about 1k3 .. your still stratching for kills in h2h land .

As far as the d-11 is concerned I dont think its compleatly recoved from the ah2 switch .. its still too soft as in pilot wounds go and it doesnt seam to have regained the nice "edge" it had befor (i still fly it alot)


The d11 feels pretty good to me when I fly it. The only big difference I've noticed is that those 8 50s don't hit so hard as they used to. This plane can merge the hell out of about anything, but when 8 50s don't get the job done fast enough E burn puts you on the defensive too often. Other then that E burn and flaps still feel pretty good in the old jug.

I havn't really compared the performance of this and the old FM, as I was far more focused on learning the new 38 model after the switch and didn't pay attention until well after I had forgotten exactly how the d11 handled. If any of you have noticed specifics on what's not up to par I'd love to hear it.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: JB73 on July 07, 2005, 02:16:41 PM
LMAO that any thread discussing FM of any plane always falls into "my p38 is best at this and that"


ROFLMAO
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Wolfala on July 07, 2005, 02:20:05 PM
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Originally posted by SuperDud
Aren't you afraid of prismatic sprays??? You'll have to roll a 20 to avoid:eek: Or what if the pilot is wearing boots of evasion?


My PJ just uses its Peter North spray method to end the debate all together.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Karnak on July 07, 2005, 02:38:55 PM
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Originally posted by JB73
LMAO that any thread discussing FM of any plane always falls into "my p38 is best at this and that"


ROFLMAO

Noticed that too, did you.
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: JB73 on July 07, 2005, 03:20:37 PM
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Originally posted by Karnak
Noticed that too, did you.
hehehe ; )

it's like godwin's law only with p38's instead of hitler : D
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: hubsonfire on July 07, 2005, 03:45:41 PM
Does this guy actually fly in the MA, or just try to start FM accuracy fights and perk arguments? :rolleyes:
Title: Will P-47s also get FM tweaks?
Post by: Kweassa on July 07, 2005, 04:43:15 PM
*shrug* maybe a little more E-bleed when flaps are constantly put on?