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Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nash on July 03, 2005, 04:48:37 PM
This might be pretty cool. (http://www.nasa.gov/externalflash/deepimpact_front/index.html)

NASA is shootin' some kinda spacecraft at a comet tonight.

1:52 am EST.

The explosion is supposed to be something like a lot of tons of TNT. Prolly be able to see it from the ground if you look up.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nilsen on July 03, 2005, 04:54:29 PM
Exciting stuff... been looking forward to his for awhile now and i hope they can get some really_good photos of it.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 03, 2005, 05:41:20 PM
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The size of the resulting crater could range from a large house to a football stadium, and be from two to 14 stories deep. Bursts of debris from the cosmic collision could be visible to the naked eye in some areas of the world, scientists said.


This is a government program to alter the path of a life ending impact.  

The "scientific" story is just a cover up to keep us from hoarding bottled water and spam.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Vulcan on July 03, 2005, 05:44:55 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
This is a government program to alter the path of a life ending impact.  

The "scientific" story is just a cover up to keep us from hoarding bottled water and spam.


BS, everyone knows its an Alien spacecraft...
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 03, 2005, 05:49:05 PM
Naw. It can't be an alien spacecraft.  Our studies of captured alien technology from Roswell and other places show that we could not possibly damage their spacecraft with a simple hunk of copper.  If we could find them at all what with their cloaking devices and all.

Bottled water and Spam I tell ya... buy it quick.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: vorticon on July 03, 2005, 05:56:59 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin

Bottled water and Spam I tell ya... buy it quick.


why not just fill big buckets with tapwater, and steal the neighbours sheep (those who havent already)

or why water at all? beer is safer and more plentifull.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Saurdaukar on July 03, 2005, 06:07:52 PM
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Originally posted by vorticon

or why water at all? beer is safer and more plentifull.


A wise man.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 03, 2005, 06:14:17 PM
But the spam will last longer than the neighbors farm animals in your underground bunker, and no waste products to deal with.

As for the beer, I already have mine, but figured most of you could afford a couple pallets of bottled water.  Beer will be in short supply what with the fourth supposedly happening tomorrow. You only have a few hours to prepare.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: FUNKED1 on July 03, 2005, 06:56:15 PM
We always celebrate Independence with a bang.
I think from now on we should do a megaton range nuclear test every 4th.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nash on July 03, 2005, 07:09:23 PM
That'd be pretty cool, and it'd be great if this set some sort of precedent. Like the creation of a whole new NASA Department of the Fourth of July. Just think of the crazy **** they could pull off. Not to mention the good PR that NASA could use lately.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Thrawn on July 03, 2005, 07:34:07 PM
Does no one care for the poor harmless comet?  :(
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: slimm50 on July 03, 2005, 07:56:03 PM
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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
Naw. It can't be an alien spacecraft.  Our studies of captured alien technology from Roswell and other places show that we could not possibly damage their spacecraft with a simple hunk of copper.  If we could find them at all what with their cloaking devices and all.

Bottled water and Spam I tell ya... buy it quick.

If all I had to look forward to was a future of bottled water and spam, I'd just as soon camp out in a lawn chair at ground zero with a cold beer and watch the show.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 03, 2005, 08:35:49 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Does no one care for the poor harmless comet?  :(


In nature things have a way of getting back at ya. And as the saying goes.
"what goes around comes around" LOL quite literally in this case.

I just hope they are crashing into this thing as its headed away from us and not towards us. Our luck they would hit it in jussst the right spot and splinter it into several large chunks all headed in our direction
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: DREDIOCK on July 03, 2005, 08:37:29 PM
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Originally posted by slimm50
If all I had to look forward to was a future of bottled water and spam, I'd just as soon camp out in a lawn chair at ground zero with a cold beer and watch the show.


I dunno. just think of all the fun we can have after reverting back to survival of the fittest.
Certainly could get rid of alot of dead wood
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: FiLtH on July 03, 2005, 08:41:40 PM
The large chunks will be harvested and delivered to Mars for the terraforming to begin.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Maverick on July 03, 2005, 09:02:31 PM
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Originally posted by FUNKED1
We always celebrate Independence with a bang.
I think from now on we should do a megaton range nuclear test every 4th.


Got an idea for location of those fireworks?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: majic on July 03, 2005, 11:06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Maverick
Got an idea for location of those fireworks?



We pick a new bad guy country each year.  Or the sky.  You pick.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Vulcan on July 04, 2005, 12:09:18 AM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Does no one care for the poor harmless comet?  :(


well actually someone does...

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Russian Astrologist Plans to Crash NASA’s Independence Day
Created: 19.04.2005 16:34 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:21 MSK

Anna Arutunyan

MosNews


Remember Deep Impact — that global disaster movie from the 1990’s when the world’s finest astronauts embarked on a suicide mission to save mankind from a comet heading straight for Earth? Now, imagine if the producers introduced a new twist to the plot: besides the comet, NASA is pitted against a Russian astrologist who sues the space agency because destroying a comet would irrevocably harm her “system of spiritual values”.

Well, we’re not in the direct trajectory of a comet (not yet anyway), but a Deep Impact mission is underway, with a NASA spacecraft scheduled to collide with the Tempel-1 comet on July 4, perhaps blasting it to smithereens. That’s right, it’s Independence Day.

Now, the last thing NASA expected was a lawsuit from Russia.

But Russian astrologist Marina Bai gave it a try, and, according to her lawyer Alexander Molokhov, it looks like she may just pull it off. In a lawsuit she filed last month with the Presnensky district court in Moscow, Bai is demanding that NASA call off its $311 million operation, with the spacecraft already in its cruise phase. She also wants 8.7 billion rubles (the ruble equivalent of the entire cost of the mission) in compensation for moral damages.

“The actions of NASA infringe upon my system of spiritual and life values, in particular on the values of every element of creation, upon the unacceptability of barbarically interfering with the natural life of the universe, and the violation of the natural balance of the Universe,” Bai said in her claim.

NASA successfully launched its Deep Impact spacecraft — comprised of a “fly-by” spacecraft and a smaller “impactor” carrying some 350 kilograms of copper — on Jan. 12 with the aim of studying the nature of comets. The spacecraft’s “impactor” is expected to form a large crater enabling scientists to look inside the comet. The scientific objectives of the mission, according to NASA, seem innocent enough: just measure the crater and examine the composition of its interior. But then again, there’s always a larger agenda lurking in the background — what would we do in the unlikely even of an emergency?

Bai is not the only astrologist worried about messing with the Universe.

“Imagine leaving Moscow, then returning to find everything’s changed,” says Vladimir Portnov, a physicist and a professional astrologist. “Of course, everyday people will feel the implications of destroying a comet.”

According to Portnov, even something as “minor” as comets play a role in creating humanity’s psychic environment. By wantonly destroying a comet, NASA will inevitably disrupt that environment — with the most likely result being mass anxiety.

But can anyone stop NASA on these grounds? Bai’s initial lawsuit was dismissed by the Presnensky court, but the Moscow City Court took up the appeal and will rule following a hearing scheduled for May 6. And lawyer Alexander Molokhov is convinced the case will move further.

“I have no doubt that the Moscow City Court will cancel the [previous dismissal],” Molokhov told MosNews.

According to Russian law, a Russian citizen can file a claim with a Russian court against a foreign organization that has representation in Russia. And NASA, with an office in Moscow, is certainly eligible as a plaintiff. “If a Houston court can examine a case involving a Russian company [Yukos — MosNews], why can’t a Russian file a claim against an American agency with a Russian court?”

But is there any chance in calling off the mission and getting a hefty $311 million? Molokhov hopes the case will resonate widely in the media. “There is a law against actions that can lead to damage or death,” and in Russia, the case is being filed on those grounds. Also, Molokhov plans to take the claim to the United States. In fact, he says, there are a number of scientists there who would be glad to sue NASA.

Indeed, the consequences of destroying a comet may include anything from an asteroid shower to disruption to radio waves.

“I am not a scientist,” Molokhov says, “but experts say the impact could disrupt the comet’s plasma trail, which could have an effect on satellite communications.”

So, what does NASA think of the challenge? So far, Molokhov says that the NASA Moscow Liaison Office has made no statements whatsoever regarding Bai’s claim.

Meanwhile, Dolores Beasley, at the Deep Impact mission headquarters in Washington, was very surprised to hear of the case. In a phone call, she said she was not aware of any claims against NASA originating in the States, and that generally the mission was “very popular”.

The Russian Space Agency, meanwhile, has also kept quiet about the mission. A man who answered at the press office said he was “not competent to answer any questions” regarding his agency’s position over the NASA mission. Molokhov said that isn’t surprising — the agency gets some financing from NASA and is not keen on criticism.

Expert opinion ranges from comments saying the mission is an innocent endeavor, to outright lambasting. “I think such vandalism cannot be justified even in the case of the asteroid-comet danger that people talk so much about,” Nikolai Bochkarev of the Russian Academy for Natural Science told the Itogi magazine.

So, what would an astrologist say about destroying a comet to save humanity?

“I think it’s acceptable to try,” Vladimir Portnov says. Then he smiles: “But I think it’s impossible.”


Mrs Boroda?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nash on July 04, 2005, 12:25:22 AM
Any of you guys know which direction in the sky to look at?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nefarious on July 04, 2005, 12:30:40 AM
Im too far East, that is unless it lights up the sky above my Horizon.

Which I doubt, Everything Ive read, says "If this", Im gonna watch it from the link you posted, If it happens to be brighter than expected, I will head outside.

Heavy Fog, Blah.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: FUNKED1 on July 04, 2005, 12:31:05 AM
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Originally posted by Nash
Any of you guys know which direction in the sky to look at?


up
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: skernsk on July 04, 2005, 12:31:13 AM
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

watching it in real time on NASA tv...
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Ripsnort on July 04, 2005, 12:32:44 AM
Western sky, Nash, just up and over left of Jupiter (brightest object in the sky)
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nash on July 04, 2005, 12:33:45 AM
Cool. Thanks.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Vulcan on July 04, 2005, 12:47:00 AM
You know the impact will probably blind you...

then, all the little frozen seeds wall fall to earth...

then... well...

(http://www.affichescinema.com/insc_d/day_triffids.jpg)
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Bluedog on July 04, 2005, 12:57:54 AM
Soooo....how'd it go?  Timer to impact is counting upwards, currently 3 min..I presume that means impact was three min ago.

Did it work? did it even hit the target?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: FUNKED1 on July 04, 2005, 01:04:16 AM
They nailed it, images show a huge spray of debris, covering about half the comet.

Amreeka:  Never in the history of civilization has a culture been so good at blowing **** up.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: boxboy28 on July 04, 2005, 01:05:38 AM
did they hit?   i missed it?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Vulcan on July 04, 2005, 01:07:37 AM
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Originally posted by Bluedog
Soooo....how'd it go?  Timer to impact is counting upwards, currently 3 min..I presume that means impact was three min ago.

Did it work? did it even hit the target?


Hold on a sec I think they're trying to get hold off Bruce Willis.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nash on July 04, 2005, 01:07:47 AM
Oh Hells yeah!

But unless it was just a flicker that I can't swear I actually saw, then it wasn't very visable to the nekkid eye. Prolly a better view on NASA tv. (gettin' harder and harder to find an excuse to go outside these days).

But yeah - they nailed it. Remarkable.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Ripsnort on July 04, 2005, 01:10:29 AM
Bigger than expected impact apparently. The next few weeks should produce some remarkable photography from this event.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: LePaul on July 04, 2005, 01:16:58 AM
Couldnt see it "live" since I dont have NasaTV (cable system doesnt offer it) but saw it on CNN International as it was going on.  Looks like a direct hit.

Like Rip said, Im looking forward to see the images from Hubble, ground stations and the Deep Impact camera unit.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: stiehl on July 04, 2005, 01:24:16 AM
that oughta show dem three-legged bastids' not to mess with new jersey
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: -tronski- on July 04, 2005, 02:32:15 AM
(http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/touchstone_pictures/armageddon/_group_photos/ben_affleck2.jpg)


Don't wanna close my eyes
Don't wanna fall asleep
'Cause I'd miss you, baby
And I don't wanna miss a thing
'Cause even when I dream of you
The sweetest dream would never do...


 Tronsky
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Swoop on July 04, 2005, 02:46:29 AM
I don't want to pay taxes.   Ever.



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nilsen on July 04, 2005, 02:52:36 AM
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Originally posted by Swoop
I don't want to pay taxes.   Ever.



(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/209_1081438631_swoop.gif)


All your taxes are belong to me. Always.

That would have been my demand but im so smart.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Holden McGroin on July 04, 2005, 08:46:41 AM
I guess they hit it....


What the hell am I going to do with all this Spam?

Anybody know any good recipes?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Golfer on July 04, 2005, 09:00:46 AM
Oops...edited to destroy evil red X


(http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/621_1120485789_cometsmack.jpg)
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: bozon on July 04, 2005, 09:46:03 AM
the movie:
http://planetary.org/news/2005/deep_impact_crash_0704.html

Bozon
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: eskimo2 on July 04, 2005, 10:13:45 AM
How important, or coincidental, do you guys think it is that this NASA mission was timed to culminate on the 4th of July?

eskimo
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Nilsen on July 04, 2005, 10:29:51 AM
Only 365 days in a year, and they "missed" by a day so..

But you never know.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Kev367th on July 04, 2005, 10:37:35 AM
Isn't it just another Knitonaut who got lost, decided to kill a toolshed and augered?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Ripsnort on July 04, 2005, 11:10:10 AM
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Originally posted by eskimo2
How important, or coincidental, do you guys think it is that this NASA mission was timed to culminate on the 4th of July?

eskimo

When you have 2 or 3 years to plan it, and have your choice of day to pick, why NOT pick the 4th? Excellent PR job to bring awareness (and more taxpayer money via exposure) to NASA.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Jackal1 on July 04, 2005, 11:23:02 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
When you have 2 or 3 years to plan it, and have your choice of day to pick, why NOT pick the 4th? Excellent PR job to bring awareness (and more taxpayer money via exposure) to NASA.


  Yep, I know it impressed the bejeebus outa me.
  We can`t  seem to find a cure for cancer through research..or hell even the common cold as far as that goes.
  We have people in our country living on the streets that we as a country can`t come up with a way to house or feed.
We can`t seem to be able to afford adequate health care for our citizens and we are in such a financial bind that ways are being came up with to take away any support and funding for the elderly that has worked all their life for this country.
  But Hey!! We can spend all this money to shoot rocks in outer space. How much better can it get?
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: slimm50 on July 04, 2005, 11:31:26 AM
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Originally posted by DREDIOCK
I dunno. just think of all the fun we can have after reverting back to survival of the fittest.
Certainly could get rid of alot of dead wood


I'm so out of shape slimm50 = dead wood. I'd stand a better chance with the comet.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Boroda on July 04, 2005, 11:49:01 AM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
well actually someone does...

 Russian Astrologist Plans to Crash NASA’s Independence Day
Created: 19.04.2005 16:34 MSK (GMT +3), Updated: 12:21 MSK


Mrs Boroda?


Well, we have all kinds of looneys here now - it's a clear sign of Democracy and the victory over Evil Soviet Regime (tm).

I'll not be surprised if some female judge who believes all this astrological bull**** will make a decision against NASA. Welcome to "civilized world"!

I really laughed at Sergey Dorenko's comment today on "Ekho Moskvy" radio: "You don't understand a true meaning of this event, it wasn't in fact an American space probe hitting the poor comet, it was a comet smashing an American probe out of it's way!" :D
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Suave on July 04, 2005, 12:12:50 PM
If NASA is going to keep stealing my hard earned money, I wish they'd go back to spending it on more practical things, like inventing pressurized cheese in a can, and pens that write upside down. Damn Thieves.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Ripsnort on July 04, 2005, 12:56:33 PM
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Originally posted by Jackal1
Yep, I know it impressed the bejeebus outa me.
  We can`t  seem to find a cure for cancer through research..or hell even the common cold as far as that goes.

If we didn't have the science that's been developed from space research we wouldn't have to tools to even study cancer.
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Originally posted by Jackal1. We have people in our country living on the streets that we as a country can`t come up with a way to house or feed.

"Fly like an eagle..." :rolleyes: Please, there are options out there for those who care to get involved with society, I started out homeless and found countless charitable orgs.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
We can`t seem to be able to afford adequate health care for our citizens and we are in such a financial bind that ways are being came up with to take away any support and funding for the elderly that has worked all their life for this country.

Because we vote in the senators and representives that represent OUR point of views.We reap what we sow so look at yourself first.
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Originally posted by Jackal1
 But Hey!! We can spend all this money to shoot rocks in outer space. How much better can it get?

Space research doesn't get much better. It will bring new technologies to help mankind just as it has for the last 50 years. But we've been over this before, do a search.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: StarOfAfrica2 on July 04, 2005, 02:56:03 PM
I guess we were lucky, Hawaii was apparently situated perfectly for viewing.  The local museum is building a planetarium and they hosted an event on their lawn for people to come hang out with binoculars and telescopes.  They also had a live web feed on a large projector screen from the NASA cameras.  They also had a big movie screen setup on Waikiki beach showing it as well.  We just decided to be lazy and watched it on OLN.
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Vulcan on July 04, 2005, 03:35:44 PM
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Originally posted by Boroda
Well, we have all kinds of looneys here now - it's a clear sign of Democracy and the victory over Evil Soviet Regime (tm).

I'll not be surprised if some female judge who believes all this astrological bull**** will make a decision against NASA. Welcome to "civilized world"!

I really laughed at Sergey Dorenko's comment today on "Ekho Moskvy" radio: "You don't understand a true meaning of this event, it wasn't in fact an American space probe hitting the poor comet, it was a comet smashing an American probe out of it's way!" :D


Someone help meh... I think I hooked Moby D!ck!
Title: Deep Impact
Post by: Maverick on July 04, 2005, 04:05:34 PM
Vulcan,

You caught it, you clean it.