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Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: hubsonfire on July 03, 2005, 08:03:29 PM
Excited by this in the News section. Thank goodness, these badly needed fixes are long overdue.

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Version 2.04 will contain the graphics updates to the P-51s and P-47s, as well as turn them into UFOs. Despite the fact that their only source of comparison was some other crappy game, our community (or some small fraction of it) has spoken, and we've altered these planes so that they are no longer bound by the laws of physics as we know them. Also, we've added laser sighting to the bombers to facilitate divebombing, and we've tweaked all ground structures so that they have the hardness of tissue paper. Also, we'll be going to a single country format, with the addition of more strat factories and towns, so that you'll no longer be harassed and inconvenienced by actually having to fight people in your UFO There won’t be much else in 2.04 from a programming standpoint, except for some changes to the whine model, and new version development will continue in this fashion until Tour of Duty is finished, or until we get so irritated with you clowns that we get mad, torch the office, and retire to some nice beach in Mexico, where we hope to avoid you people for the rest of our natural lives.














Lighten up Francis. :)  Quit squealing about the FM, the plane set, the numbers, the night, the sun, the clouds, the clear sky, the trees (okay, there are too many trees near the runways, and they're too tall, I'll grant you that), and relax and play the game.

Disclaimer: The above 'quote' has been edited. Poorly. The thoughts expressed and statements made have not been verified by HTC. HitechCreations is God to you dweebs. Bow before him and quit shreaking so much. Thank you for your time. Aces High is not to be taken internally.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Morpheus on July 03, 2005, 08:08:08 PM
I also feel that the rifling twist is far too fast. The FM of the 50 cals has to be changed and stuff.

Its wrong.

The propellers are off a few milimeters from center and my plane is gyrocopting out of control. WTF?!

Its HT's fault. Maybe Pyro's too, i havent decided yet.

Also when I drop bomb I blow up. The bomb FM needs to be redid.

Thats wrong too. I think maybe a small perk on any bomb over 100lbs is cool too. yeah.

Oh yeah rockets too. Hitech please fix all that stuff k.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Arcades057 on July 03, 2005, 08:35:21 PM
The LA-7, FW-190D, P-51D, ME-109G-10, and B-24s should all be perked.  Actually anything with guns heavier than 20mm should be perked... including Pzs and Ostis.  Oh yeah, the HO should also be perked... along with the BnZ and the TnB too.  Those are n00b tactics employed by dweebs.  

There should also be a 5-perk cost for every 5k altitude someone flies.  This will disuade the alt-monkeys.  Kill stealing should also be perked, but not kill shooting--that's OK...

Perk trees, too, as they've killed WAY more pilots than any other pilot.  I think the tree FM is busted and needs to be fixed.  Seriously, last night with one ping a tree killed my B-24.  ONE PING!!!!!!!11  WaH?!

And then I tried taking off from a carrier and I crashed!!1  I was in a heavy CHog and I lost my perks.  I think I deserve my perks back.  It was making a turn but so what, in real life people do it all the time.....

And we need n00ks too.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 03, 2005, 08:38:31 PM
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Originally posted by Arcades057
The LA-7, FW-190D, P-51D, ME-109G-10, and B-24s should all be perked.  Actually anything with guns heavier than 20mm should be perked... including Pzs and Ostis.  Oh yeah, the HO should also be perked... along with the BnZ and the TnB too.  Those are n00b tactics employed by dweebs.  

There should also be a 5-perk cost for every 5k altitude someone flies.  This will disuade the alt-monkeys.  Kill stealing should also be perked, but not kill shooting--that's OK...

Perk trees, too, as they've killed WAY more pilots than any other pilot.  I think the tree FM is busted and needs to be fixed.  Seriously, last night with one ping a tree killed my B-24.  ONE PING!!!!!!!11  WaH?!

And then I tried taking off from a carrier and I crashed!!1  I was in a heavy CHog and I lost my perks.  I think I deserve my perks back.  It was making a turn but so what, in real life people do it all the time.....

And we need n00ks too.


Dude the 51 should never be perked. If u flew it u would under stand the guns suck because htc changed the leath on the guns.

Because of people like u *****in about the p51.

So the eny went to 6 and u cant kill watermelon with the pea shooters.

Do u even know what tnb is lol
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Stang on July 03, 2005, 08:50:52 PM
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
Dude the 51 should never be perked. If u flew it u would under stand the guns suck because htc changed the leath on the guns.

Because of people like u *****in about the p51.

So the eny went to 6 and u cant kill watermelon with the pea shooters.

Do u even know what tnb is lol


We got one!
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 03, 2005, 08:55:04 PM
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Originally posted by Stang
We got one!
:p
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: hubsonfire on July 03, 2005, 09:03:50 PM
Arcade, even though you're just a newb, I think you'll do well in here. :aok
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 03, 2005, 09:05:03 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Arcade, even though you're just a newb, I think you'll do well in here. :aok

=( Hub c'mon.. Why should they perk the 51
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Morpheus on July 03, 2005, 09:55:44 PM
god, and that was done without planning.

perfection.
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Post by: Fruda on July 03, 2005, 09:58:57 PM
Hahaha, glorious.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: 38ruk on July 03, 2005, 10:39:12 PM
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Originally posted by Morpheus
god, and that was done without planning.

perfection.

ahaah, even a blind squirrel ... ah nevermind ehhe
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Slash27 on July 03, 2005, 11:01:16 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Arcade, even though you're just a newb, I think you'll do well in here. :aok


Of course he will, he's with us:aok
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Arcades057 on July 04, 2005, 01:09:42 AM
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Dude the 51 should never be perked. If u flew it u would under stand the guns suck because htc changed the leath on the guns.


Yes it should.  It's is uber and l337 and MUST BE PERKED


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Because of people like u *****in about the p51.


What is *****in?  I don't *, or **, or even ***, and I have NEVER ****, let alone *****in anything.  That's just crazy...


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So the eny went to 6 and u cant kill watermelon with the pea shooters.


You'd better be careful, man.  "chit" is profanity and is not allowed.


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Do u even know what tnb is lol



Of COURSE I do!  I might be n00b, but I'm not dumb!  TNB:  The Nature Boy!  As in Ric Flair??  Duh!

WOOOOOO!

WOOOOOOO!
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:14:57 AM
Fly your spit


CHIT watermelon CHIT watermelon fly your spit leme kill ya in my 51
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:16:34 AM
Back off the pony lol maybe u just dont know how to fly it.

Hater

And htc wouldn't perk it for you lol.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Arcades057 on July 04, 2005, 01:17:35 AM
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
Fly your spit


CHIT watermelon CHIT watermelon fly your spit leme kill ya in my 51



SPIT SPIT SPIT????  I fly no SPIT SPIT SPIT!  I fly Zero.  Your 51 runs like a scalded kitty from my Zero.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:18:43 AM
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Originally posted by Arcades057
SPIT SPIT SPIT????  I fly no SPIT SPIT SPIT!  I fly Zero.  Your 51 runs like a scalded kitty from my Zero.


w00t more zeros to light on fire.

Don't think im a newb rofl new name.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:19:07 AM
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Originally posted by Arcades057
SPIT SPIT SPIT????  I fly no SPIT SPIT SPIT!  I fly Zero.  Your 51 runs like a scalded kitty from my Zero.


w00t more zeros to light on fire.

Don't think im a newb rofl new name.
And i don't run i drag so i can kill hotards bangers pickers.

I like turning in 51
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Arcades057 on July 04, 2005, 01:21:16 AM
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Originally posted by SkyChimp
w00t more zeros to light on fire.

Don't think im a newb rofl new name.
And i don't run



I'm a n00b to this game, bubba.  Ever play AW, the original free one?  It was fun, yeah, back in the late 90s......  I played it.  It was fun......  then they started charging......  I couldn't pay anymore.....  I started this game......  Now i scare little monkeys in P-51s with my Japanese planes.  And I'm not Japanese.  Runstang......
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:23:12 AM
Tsk tsk maybe i sould show ya around.

Heh <-Trained by art i don't run u tard learn to fly a mans plane not a dweeb zero.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Arcades057 on July 04, 2005, 01:25:46 AM
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Tsk tsk maybe i sould show ya around.


Hm...  I dunno...  Monkey's aren't good tour-guides...  And I notice you haven't replied to anything else.  You think the FM for trees should be changed ja?  Makes sense to me.  Killed me more times than anything else.  Killed you too more times than anything.  Well, except a Zero.  They light up P51s, even when they run.... cuz they always do
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:30:14 AM
I can't remember 1 time a zero killed my 51.
I have no problem with trees they are a lil on the tall side tho.

Like sayin perk the zero because it turns better than anything else in game. Perk it because of 20mm.

Dude htc has alrdy changed the 51 nuff because of people sayin it needs to be perked.

I don't run..
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Morpheus on July 04, 2005, 01:33:33 AM
mmmm as levi says....

boozonics.:aok
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: Arcades057 on July 04, 2005, 01:34:54 AM
No beer....  Only Cpt. Morgans...  Mmmmmmmmm



And no SPIT, no CHIT, and no * going on.
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:34:56 AM
Morph tell um 51's don't run.

Only teh newbs run :p

They run because they can't fly it
http://bk.badcompanyclan.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=1
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Post by: Pooface on July 04, 2005, 08:26:36 AM
chimp, for your own good, read the thread again :lol

this is a piss take you silly muppet:p

anyway, how ya doin? long time bud
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Post by: BBQ_Bob on July 04, 2005, 08:47:39 AM
SkyChimp, glad to see that your grammar is improving. Keep up the good work.  :aok
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Post by: Ted Strykker on July 04, 2005, 10:38:09 AM
Chimp talkin smack about a D model 51,lol.

Fly the B model then talk some smack.
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Post by: SuperDud on July 04, 2005, 11:18:42 AM
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Originally posted by Slash27
Of course he will, he's with us:aok


OMG Slash, whatever you are teaching him keep up the good work. I see a very powerful troller in the future!

Arcades..good stuff bud:aok
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 01:28:47 PM
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Originally posted by Ted Strykker
Chimp talkin smack about a D model 51,lol.

Fly the B model then talk some smack.


Tard..

Read again. Arcades057 is the one talkin smack..
I love the 51 all tho im not a ace in it. :D

Thankee bbq.:p
Title: Will the WM (Whine Model) finally get fixed in the next update?
Post by: hubsonfire on July 04, 2005, 06:04:58 PM
SkyChimp, read slower... I'll even give you a hint...

IT'S A TROLL.

LOL, I couldn't have imagined this would turn out so well. Thank you for your time and contributions, folks. :aok A good troll takes a group effort. I'm so proud of you guys.

hub
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Post by: Stang on July 04, 2005, 06:18:31 PM
:rofl
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 06:39:09 PM
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Originally posted by hubsonfire
SkyChimp, read slower... I'll even give you a hint...

IT'S A TROLL.

LOL, I couldn't have imagined this would turn out so well. Thank you for your time and contributions, folks. :aok A good troll takes a group effort. I'm so proud of you guys.

hub


He talks watermelon about 51.. it shouldn't be perked.
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on July 04, 2005, 06:43:50 PM
WOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 06:46:00 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
WOOOOOOOO WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

. Leave birdo alone.:rofl
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 04, 2005, 06:46:05 PM
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Originally posted by SkyChimp


Dude htc has alrdy changed the 51 nuff because of people sayin it needs to be perked.




It's time to show some concrete proof that HiTech changed the P-51B/D flight model.  What proof do you have other than, "It feels different"?  What proof that the lethality of the .50s has been downgraded like you claim?  Why is it that some players blame their short comings on "supposed FM porking by HT"?

You know why you can't kill squat with 4x .50cals on the P-51B?  Here's a hint, it has nothing to do with the lethality level of the .50 cal.  It has to do with the fact that you are not hitting your target at the convergence point.  That's the thing with wingmounted guns, to do the max damage you need to hit at the convergence point.  The lethality level of the .50s has not been changed.

The P-38 carries the same machine gun and same number of them as the P-51B does and yet we have no troubles killing planes with it.  Why?  Because we have nose mounted guns so all of our hits are in concentrated for maximum effect.  So here's a tip, hit your target at the convergence point and you'll see a lot more kills with those .50s.  Stop whining and blaming HT for your shortcomings.



ack-ack
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 06:55:45 PM
I can hit stuff. Guess ill post a film me pumpin 400 rounds in ki84


Oops didn't read your post heh so its because im to far eh?
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Post by: Ted Strykker on July 04, 2005, 06:56:55 PM
The P-38 carries the same machine gun and same number of them as the P-51B does and yet we have no troubles killing planes with it. Why?

And a Cannon,B has no Cannon.
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 04, 2005, 06:59:43 PM
:(
Im sorry htc:eek:

But art did find something diff about the 51.
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Post by: hubsonfire on July 04, 2005, 07:57:45 PM
Okay, let me get this straight. A thread poking fun at all the guys screaming about FM changes that haven't happened is now turning into a thread about the changes to 50cal lethality and the 51 FM  that haven't happened?

I'd think HTC, who coded the flight model, would probably be aware of any changes made to it.

chimp, figure it out guy. Arcade wasn't talking crap about the 51, he was trolling, making an outrageous statement to see how many other dweebs would get wound up about it. How have you not figured this out yet?

Take all the lame, unfounded FM/gun whines out of here. This is a happy thread.

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Lighten up Francis.  Quit squealing about the FM, the plane set, the numbers, the night, the sun, the clouds, the clear sky, the trees (okay, there are too many trees near the runways, and they're too tall, I'll grant you that), and relax and play the game.
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Post by: SuperDud on July 04, 2005, 08:31:48 PM
Yeah, I think they changed the 50cal lethality! I lit a guy up and he didn't die???
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Post by: Ack-Ack on July 04, 2005, 09:46:26 PM
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Originally posted by Ted Strykker
The P-38 carries the same machine gun and same number of them as the P-51B does and yet we have no troubles killing planes with it. Why?

And a Cannon,B has no Cannon.




Take up a P-38 and only use the .50s.  Then come back here and try to say they lowered the lethality of the .50s.  


ack-ack
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Post by: Arcades057 on July 04, 2005, 10:09:53 PM
WOWOW!  Yesterday I had to THROW a 50 cal at someone's windscreen JUST TO GET A PILE-IT WOUND?!?!?!?  WTF?!?!?  OMG!!!
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Post by: Howitzer on July 05, 2005, 01:29:38 AM
You know... I think SkyChimp replies to his own posts more than anyone else does.  If you were to condense his multiple postings so they all appear in the same post, his post # would drop from 1042 to about 30.  :rofl

Its alright though, keep it up skychimp, you make the world so much more entertaining  =)

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Post by: SkyChimp on July 05, 2005, 02:26:51 AM
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Originally posted by Howitzer
You know... I think SkyChimp replies to his own posts more than anyone else does.  If you were to condense his multiple postings so they all appear in the same post, his post # would drop from 1042 to about 30.  :rofl

Its alright though, keep it up skychimp, you make the world so much more entertaining  =)

:p Shhh!!!
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Post by: eilif on July 05, 2005, 03:09:05 AM
hehe best troll yet! kinda funny how these end up turning into some form of discussion as many dont read before they type :)  chimp, might want to pull out that hook while you still can!
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Post by: Azul32 on July 05, 2005, 05:33:28 AM
Well I am a newb but i do know for a fact that they did change the 50s.
I played in AHI and you used to be able to take out a field gun with them. I know for a fact ....NOW YOU CANT!!!!!!!!!!!  I layed at least 50 rds into a field gun the other night with no affect....but 1 ping from a 20 cal takes it out....WTF????


IMO the pony is practically worthless now (remember im a newb) if you cant use it for jabo.
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Post by: Kweassa on July 05, 2005, 06:07:23 AM
Azul, it takes five .50 rounds to kill a field ack.

 You laid 50 rounds into the gun and couldn't hit five, that's why thet don't die.
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Post by: straffo on July 05, 2005, 06:52:49 AM
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Originally posted by Azul32
Well I am a newb but i do know for a fact that they did change the 50s.
I played in AHI and you used to be able to take out a field gun with them. I know for a fact ....NOW YOU CANT!!!!!!!!!!!  I layed at least 50 rds into a field gun the other night with no affect....but 1 ping from a 20 cal takes it out....WTF????


IMO the pony is practically worthless now (remember im a newb) if you cant use it for jabo.

I had no trouble de acking a small field in a p47 last night.
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Post by: SlapShot on July 05, 2005, 08:24:14 AM
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Originally posted by Azul32
Well I am a newb but i do know for a fact that they did change the 50s.
I played in AHI and you used to be able to take out a field gun with them. I know for a fact ....NOW YOU CANT!!!!!!!!!!!  I layed at least 50 rds into a field gun the other night with no affect....but 1 ping from a 20 cal takes it out....WTF????


IMO the pony is practically worthless now (remember im a newb) if you cant use it for jabo.


You just can't hit the "pad" anymore ... you have to hit the gun. With .50 cals (armor piercing) you really have to hit the gun directly.

With the 20mm cannon (not 20 cal) ... its an explosive round ... therefore if a round hits close (doesn't have to be a direct hit) it will take out the gun.

Take some more time and learn how to ride the pony. In the right hands, the P-51 is probably the deadliest plane around.
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Post by: SkyChimp on July 05, 2005, 02:32:18 PM
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Originally posted by straffo
I had no trouble de acking a small field in a p47 last night.

Same i have no prob deackin in 47 get it 51 i can't do it.
. no more posting here :p
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Post by: straffo on July 05, 2005, 05:42:33 PM
With the same convergence ?